― Baaderist (Fabfunk), Thursday, 5 February 2004 15:22 (twenty years ago) link
― kephm, Thursday, 5 February 2004 15:48 (twenty years ago) link
"A Japanese Dream" sounds as shitty and thin as it did from day one and I'm convinced they mastered all of the KMKMKM B-sides from a virgin vinyl copy, there's shitloads of clipping in the left track on most of them and they sound way too high in the 8KHz range. I have CD-R boots with the "New Mix" of "Icing Sugar" that sound better than the one on here. The 12" remix of "A Japanese Dream" is so many light years better it's ridiculous. Why even acknowledge this bullshit single-length take, it has no space, no bass, no pulse, nothing compared to the extended mix. The real treausres on this set are Clearmountain's dubious single-prep mix of "How Beautiful You Are" and "To The Sky" (apparently this settles that the superior "Resurrection" mix from the early 90s Unplugged boot Acoustic Daze is a pure bootleg mix?).
Disintegration remaster is going to sound amazing: "Babble", "Fear of Ghosts" and particularly "Out of Mind" are so much fuller - the track depth and clarity in comparison to the original mixes is unreal, it's like new songs. "2 Late" still sounds as dry and distant from the album as it did on the "Lovesong" single. Still most everyone's favorite b-side, a lot of folks' favorite Cure song. Too Smiths/REM for me.
― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Thursday, 5 February 2004 16:19 (twenty years ago) link
― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Thursday, 5 February 2004 16:22 (twenty years ago) link
Chris, I have a 2nd gen monitor mix of All Cats Are Grey sneaked onto quarter inch during a break in recording by a tape-op, it's not a million miles different from the original but enough as to be of interest (tom placement, sfx at start and end louder) I could dig it out if yr interested.
― mzui, Thursday, 5 February 2004 16:52 (twenty years ago) link
(They stopped by yesterday, them UPS people, but when I was out and they need a signature dammit. So TODAY since I signed the slip. Grr.)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 5 February 2004 17:12 (twenty years ago) link
Those Elvis Costello re-issues should be a yardstick for bonus beats, Get Happy! Just amazing!
― mzui, Thursday, 5 February 2004 17:19 (twenty years ago) link
What could we see beyond:
TIB: All the extraneous material from the 1st wave that wound up on BDC, maybe even "See the Children"? haha. I wouldn't be surprised if Smith relegates "Object" to disc 2...17 Seconds: peel sessions, live tracks - the demos wouldn't be that good, I would think they'd go for live stuff, the 17 tour was their first big one, some of their best shows. Prospect Hill!Faith: Carnage Visors, demos, unreleased tracks (back in the late 80s, a collector told me there were four or five songs from these sessions no one has ever heard - can you verify?), peel sessionsPornography: peel/jensen sessions ("Ariel"), demos, AIHTDIKH.
― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Thursday, 5 February 2004 17:38 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 5 February 2004 17:39 (twenty years ago) link
As for live stuff, well I said it before but there should be proper releases of IMO:
Lille 81Arnheim 80Herford 80Werchter 81Zomerpop/Jaapeden Halle. Shortish, Dutch Radio Broadcasts 81Paris 82Japan or Washington 84
And thats just for starters, never mind all those BBC live concerts!
Wasn't Prospect Hill an audience jobbie?
― mzui, Thursday, 5 February 2004 17:47 (twenty years ago) link
― mzui, Thursday, 5 February 2004 17:50 (twenty years ago) link
However, i'm saddened to admit that I have no idea what that acronym stands for - care to share?
― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Thursday, 5 February 2004 17:51 (twenty years ago) link
anyone got any live KMKMKM-era boots? I'd love a whole gig...
― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Thursday, 5 February 2004 17:53 (twenty years ago) link
― Baaderist (Fabfunk), Thursday, 5 February 2004 18:00 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 5 February 2004 18:01 (twenty years ago) link
― Baaderist (Fabfunk), Thursday, 5 February 2004 18:04 (twenty years ago) link
KMKMKM boots are terrible, I regret to inform you. Most of the ones I've heard are soundboards from American dates, and Boris was playing a heavily electronic kit. Sounds like a Yamaha RX-7 through a Boss pedal, really dead and flat. The most widely available KMKMKM boot is Santa Barbara CA.
"All Mine" is just Smith wanking on guitar, as he was wont to do before anthems ("Disintegration" during the prayer tour, he always does it before "Three Imaginary Boys"). "Forever" was a more structured, mounting improvisation based around a frankly boring riff that built to crescendo. It dates from The Top tour as far as I know, it was another way to get Porl's sax in there. They did it with Shellyan Orphan in 1989 at their supposed "Last American show ever - we mean it!", and it was pretty awful. Cure: not a jam band.
― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Thursday, 5 February 2004 18:14 (twenty years ago) link
― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Thursday, 5 February 2004 18:16 (twenty years ago) link
― tricky disco (disco stu), Thursday, 5 February 2004 18:31 (twenty years ago) link
i rented the trilogy dvd and made it about halfway through the disintegration set before having to turn it off. :(
― tricky disco (disco stu), Thursday, 5 February 2004 18:38 (twenty years ago) link
― Baaderist (Fabfunk), Thursday, 5 February 2004 18:47 (twenty years ago) link
You missed hearing the versions of "If Only Tonight We Could Sleep" and "The Kiss" at the end = your loss.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 5 February 2004 19:20 (twenty years ago) link
― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Thursday, 5 February 2004 19:29 (twenty years ago) link
A quick google search revealed nothing to me.
― ben welsh (benwelsh), Thursday, 5 February 2004 23:01 (twenty years ago) link
― anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Thursday, 5 February 2004 23:08 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 February 2004 00:52 (twenty years ago) link
― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Friday, 6 February 2004 00:57 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 February 2004 03:47 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 6 February 2004 03:55 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 February 2004 04:05 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 February 2004 04:06 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 February 2004 04:13 (twenty years ago) link
Also, "SPLINTERED IN HER HEAD" OMG WTF AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 6 February 2004 04:17 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 February 2004 04:18 (twenty years ago) link
*"Harold and Joe" starts*
Oh, that too.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 February 2004 04:19 (twenty years ago) link
I think if my wife woke me up in the middle of the night and shouted "SHAPE IS STILL ASLEEP WITH THE TOYS" at me, I Would simultaneously shit myself and have a gigantic screaming orgasm.
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 6 February 2004 04:21 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 6 February 2004 04:22 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 February 2004 04:23 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 6 February 2004 04:24 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 February 2004 04:27 (twenty years ago) link
― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Friday, 6 February 2004 04:31 (twenty years ago) link
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― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Friday, 6 February 2004 04:33 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 February 2004 04:34 (twenty years ago) link
― ben welsh (benwelsh), Friday, 6 February 2004 04:34 (twenty years ago) link
― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Friday, 6 February 2004 04:34 (twenty years ago) link
― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Friday, 6 February 2004 04:47 (twenty years ago) link
― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 6 February 2004 05:03 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 6 February 2004 05:18 (twenty years ago) link
― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Friday, 6 February 2004 05:32 (twenty years ago) link