Oasis - Classic or Dud?

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'Who the fuck hates The Wall?'

Me. Bag of Shite.

― pete s, Monday, 26 January 2004 00:40 (twenty years ago) link

And it doesn't surprise me in the least that it's one of Noel's favourite albums. As the Ned-meister would say, 'So much is suddenly clear'.

― pete s, Monday, 26 January 2004 00:42 (twenty years ago) link

*bows*

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 26 January 2004 00:46 (twenty years ago) link

"Definitely Maybe" is a great little rock album, tight and focused.
"Whats the Story Morning Glory" is full of filler and overproduced.

Best thing they ever did : "Some Might Say" (UK cd single) - the title track, "Acquiesce", "Talk Tonight" (Noel's best acoustic thingy) and "Headshrinker". Perfect.

Everything after Morning Glory is poo, frankly...

― David Nolan (David N.), Monday, 26 January 2004 01:25 (twenty years ago) link

Best thing they ever did : "Some Might Say" (UK cd single)

I agree hands down. Not one step misplaced on that one.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 26 January 2004 01:26 (twenty years ago) link

It might have been both of us DV. If it was Definitely Maybe then I'm not sure what we meant. If it was What's The Story then it was probably just a really crapulent album that everybody at the time was buying.

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 26 January 2004 10:02 (twenty years ago) link

Yes, the second album would have been better if they didn't have to pull the Stevie Wonder rip off track a week before release, stuck on the other 3 Some Might Say cd single tracks and left off a couple of the crap ones like She's Electric. It would have been ideal for them then to have broken up in 96.

― David Gunnip (David Gunnip), Monday, 26 January 2004 12:30 (twenty years ago) link

The thing is, looking back on 1996 in particular, it seems amazing now to think of quite how HUGE they were. I mean, they dominated everything like no other UK band has done since - they were on the front pages of the tabloids pretty much once a week (alternating with Di and Gazza, obviously) - now I find myself forgetting they're even still around.

Definitely Maybe had some good songs on it, but I'm still coming down on the side of dud. Never saw what was supposed to be so great about Liam's voice.

Classic if only for the interviews, mind.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 26 January 2004 12:38 (twenty years ago) link

does anyone else think 'Songbird' is ALRIGHT?

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 26 January 2004 12:49 (twenty years ago) link

I could probably fill one side of a C60 with Oasis songs I liked. Their offensiveness as a band was completely disproportionately small compared to the stuff they inspired. Since 2000 I've found ignoring them to be far easier than people are making out; I can't imagine *any* of my friends saying, "Ooh, I wonder what the new Oasis album is going to sound like."

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Monday, 26 January 2004 12:56 (twenty years ago) link

a friend of mine bought a post Be Here Now Wasis album because someone on ILX said it was good. He blames me for this mistake.

― DV (dirtyvicar), Monday, 26 January 2004 13:18 (twenty years ago) link

can't decide if 'Little By Little' is worse than 'Sunday Morning Call' or not - definitely their two worst singles and by some distance

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 26 January 2004 13:30 (twenty years ago) link

One of the first bands I got into, so can't really claim to hate them, though I bought none of their stuff after 'Morning Glory,' which I never liked.

The image (if you care about that sort've thing) - Utterly boring

This is missing the point, which was that Oasis were like the crowd up on stage. Plus it wasn't that boring, they had an air of menace -- in the UK.
They weren't 'indie' but they came out of indie 'culture' (ie NME readers, Evening Session listeners). Croation wasn't a 'real' indie by that point, but it was more indie than Columbia, shall we say.

― Enrique (Enrique), Monday, 26 January 2004 13:45 (twenty years ago) link

sorry stevem 'Go Let It Out' is, and and always will be their worst single. It was also the moment, when I saw the vid on smtv, at which i gave up on them for good.
(i like Sunday Morning Call tho)

― pete s, Monday, 26 January 2004 14:01 (twenty years ago) link

All Around The World is their worst!

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 26 January 2004 14:04 (twenty years ago) link

No All Around the World is flatulent and cliched and overlong and decadent, but its not rubbish. I know this makes no sense.

― pete s, Monday, 26 January 2004 14:08 (twenty years ago) link

Tico OTM. The key change. The Richard Ashcroft backing vocals. PH34R.

― Enrique (Enrique), Monday, 26 January 2004 14:09 (twenty years ago) link

OH GOD THE KEY CHANGE

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 26 January 2004 14:10 (twenty years ago) link

"air of menace" haha if you know the true story behind the newcastle riverside "riot"

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 26 January 2004 14:11 (twenty years ago) link

two months pass...

All Around The World is worst if only cos of the video.

I'm reading John Harris' not-very-good Last Party right now which prompted me to revive this thread.

― Venga, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 17:53 (twenty years ago) link

"The Last Party" is a really good book and Oasis (for first two albums, B-sides, "Whatever" EP, "Don't go Away"/ "Who Feels Love"/ "Hindu Times"/ "Stop Crying" are CLASSIC.

― CRW (CRW), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 18:09 (twenty years ago) link

Damn. Sorry folks.

― Venga, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 18:17 (twenty years ago) link

Watching a bit of some crappy documentary about '10 years of Oasis' on telly last night, I was reminded of something that always puzzled me a bit about them. They had some footage of Liam facing up to a photographer or someone, in a kind of OTT, eyeball-to-eyeball, poking fingers kind of way. This kind of performance always struck me as a completely ridiculous pose, somehow even more ridiculous than someone like Brett Anderson waving his arse around and pretending to be a bohemian bisexual. I've come to terms a bit with glammy poseurs, but the loutish aggressive pose still sticks in my craw a bit, esp. that anyone would fall for it. Am I wrong to think it was all a pose? Was it real somehow? Was he angry? What about? That question isn't necessarily answered by whether or not he would have acted in the same way down the pub had he not been famous.

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 18:24 (twenty years ago) link

I bet Liam would nut you for that. I reckon he's a tough son of a gun!

― CRW (CRW), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 18:29 (twenty years ago) link

Dud, Dud, Dud, Dud, Dud!
Apart from 'She's Electric'.

― Jamie Fake (the pirate king), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 19:25 (twenty years ago) link

Search
Acquiesce
Talk Tonight
It's Better People
Roll With It
Supersonic
Listen Up

― 57 7th (calstars), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 20:07 (twenty years ago) link

two years pass...

Regardless of what you think about Oasis, can someone please watch this , specifically at the 3:50 and 5:02 marks, and tell me what the hell happened?

― Zachary Scott (Zach S), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 17:46 (seventeen years ago) link

it sounds like Liam is doing the 'muh-nuh muh-nuh' bit of the Muppets song

― 2 american 4 u (blueski), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 17:53 (seventeen years ago) link

i lost respect for Noel long ago but still enjoy his level of candidness in interviews, even if/when he is wrong

― 2 american 4 u (blueski), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 17:56 (seventeen years ago) link

All Around The World is worst if only cos of the video.

Haha, my best mate's dad directed it!

― chap who would dare to welcome our new stingray masters (chap), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 17:57 (seventeen years ago) link

(The animated parts at least. Apparently his brief was simply 'make it as much like Yellow Submarine as possible'.)

― chap who would dare to welcome our new stingray masters (chap), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 17:59 (seventeen years ago) link

it sounds like Liam is doing the 'muh-nuh muh-nuh' bit of the Muppets song

dying over here

― wordy rappinghood (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 18:10 (seventeen years ago) link

I really can't stop watching it. I'm not shocked that Liam sings badly live, but really. Really? REALLY?!

― wordy rappinghood (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 18:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Back in the sad, sad, days, I owned their live album, Familiar to Millions. From 2000 or 2001 I think. He didn't sound anything like he does now. Maybe Noel secretly punched him in the neck or something. He sounds like he's impersonating someone else impersonating him, drunkly.

― Zachary Scott (Zach S), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 18:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm making it our homepage.

― wordy rappinghood (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:04 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm making it our homepage.

The whole thing, or just the singing bits?

― Zachary Scott (Zach S), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:07 (seventeen years ago) link

the whole thing.

"never forget"

― wordy rappinghood (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Has coke fucked up his nose that much he now sings like that? Christ. WTF has happened?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Maybe he can't hear himself?

― wordy rappinghood (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:26 (seventeen years ago) link

why does it say "oasis yeti" at the beginning?

― wordy rappinghood (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:27 (seventeen years ago) link

He's also really bad at pulling away from the mic before he finishes his notes.

Gotta love the Noel eyeroll during the clip at 3:50.

― Zachary Scott (Zach S), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:27 (seventeen years ago) link

why does it say "oasis yeti" at the beginning?

Because the singing was abominable?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 19:29 (seventeen years ago) link

i see what you've done

― wordy rappinghood (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 20:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Noel Gallagher has continued his attack on the Arctic Monkeys, branding them "grumpy old men".
The Oasis guitarist has made numerous jibes at the Sheffield band since their rise to fame, and has continued this week with his latest criticism. As well as blasting the band's image, Gallagher expressed his concern over upcoming musicians copying the Monkeys.
He said: "Their public persona is now of a bunch of grumpy old men. I'm worried about what's going to follow in their wake. It's gonna be c**ts with guitars going: 'And me mum works down the f**king chip shop, she met a geezer' and all that."

Gallagher added his own views on the difference between the two groups: "Great pop music is not about real life, it's about how great life can be. Real life's s**t."

says CHEERFUL UNDER-30 NOEL GALLAGHER WHO DIDN'T REVIVE SUCCESS OF 'GRUMPY OLD MEN' IN THE CHARTS AT ALL OH NO

― 2 american 4 u (blueski), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 17:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Hahahah.

As for Liam, I remember some years back apparently some voice specialist said he would completely have shot his voice by about now. And so it appears to prove.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 17:40 (seventeen years ago) link

There was a mentally retarded kid living across the street from me where I grew up who talked exactly like how Liam now sings.

― Marmot (marmotwolof), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 20:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Gallagher added his own views on the difference between the two groups: "Great pop music is not about real life, it's about how great life can be. Real life's s**t."

You need to be yourself
You can't be no one else
I know a girl called Elsa
She's into Alka Seltzer
She sniffs it through a cane on a supersonic train
She made me laugh
I got her autograph
She done it with a doctor on a helicopter
She's sniffin in her tissue
Sellin' the Big Issue

― dommy p is alright WHICH IS A LOT MORE THAN I CAN SAY ABOUT A LOT OF PEOPLE (Dom, Wednesday, 8 November 2006 20:08 (seventeen years ago) link

eight months pass...

If I have to see one more AT&T commercial that ends with a whiny "All around the world..." I am to spontaneously combust. GAWWWWWD!

How much longer til their contract with AT&T runs out? How many trillions did they make by licensing that song, which seems to be played at least once every commercial break?

― Z S, Friday, 13 July 2007 01:21 (sixteen years ago) link

I am to double-check my spelling and grammar next time I post, too.

― Z S, Friday, 13 July 2007 01:21 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah, that's got to have made them more $$ than everything else they've done combined. Since AT&T still uses it even after absorbing Cingular it seems that they aren't going to rebrand and switch songs, at least not for a while.

Noel Gallagher has continued his attack on the Arctic Monkeys, branding them "grumpy old men".

The Oasis guitarist has made numerous jibes at the Sheffield band since their rise to fame, and has continued this week with his latest criticism. As well as blasting the band's image, Gallagher expressed his concern over upcoming musicians copying the Monkeys.

He said: "Their public persona is now of a bunch of grumpy old men. I'm worried about what's going to follow in their wake. It's gonna be c**ts with guitars going: 'And me mum works down the f**king chip shop, she met a geezer' and all that."

Gallagher added his own views on the difference between the two groups: "Great pop music is not about real life, it's about how great life can be. Real life's s**t."

Funny how since the posts made in November of '06, Noel is now bff with the Arctic Monkeys. HYPOCRISY SHOCKAH

― musically, Friday, 13 July 2007 03:47 (sixteen years ago) link

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