22. But I'm much less into "alternative" rock than most ILXors.
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 09:28 (sixteen years ago) link
32. The obvious ones plus Xenakis minus Zappa (weirdly).
― Jamie T Smith, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 10:04 (sixteen years ago) link
179. and not one of them wasn't worth the time/effort.
-- Mr. Hal Jam, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 17:36 (Yesterday) Bookmark Link
I'd be very interested in finding out what ones you haven't heard!
― Tom D., Wednesday, 14 May 2008 10:08 (sixteen years ago) link
Frank Zappa Mothers Of Invention & Yoko Ono Plastic Ono Band
I counted these as the same, was I cheating?
― Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 10:08 (sixteen years ago) link
37
― DJ Mencap, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 10:23 (sixteen years ago) link
38. I think.
― Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 10:25 (sixteen years ago) link
No Scooter, no cred
― Dingbod Kesterson, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 10:28 (sixteen years ago) link
And where the feck is Derek Bailey and Iskra sans 1903 (and thus sans DB) doesn't count.
Bloody EVANISTS!
― Dingbod Kesterson, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 10:29 (sixteen years ago) link
Evangelicals
― Tom D., Wednesday, 14 May 2008 10:37 (sixteen years ago) link
29
― abanana, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 10:39 (sixteen years ago) link
(not counting band members, which i probably should)
― abanana, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 10:40 (sixteen years ago) link
51-75
― Stewart Osborne, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 11:29 (sixteen years ago) link
45, mainly the same list as curt1s
― Thomas, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 12:16 (sixteen years ago) link
118. But I have downloaded a lot of these things off various NWWList blogs in the last cpl of years.
― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 12:40 (sixteen years ago) link
that's a different Iskra altogether. the omission of DB is odd. and Parker only with Lytton?
― Mr. Hal Jam, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 12:47 (sixteen years ago) link
I am probably at over 200 due to my mutantsounds habit.
actually own? hell if I know.
How many of those did Stapleton et al actually LISTEN to/learn from, as opposed to merely namecheck?
I am continually shocked at how many early NWW music references pop up on these discs. 15 seconds of a track by Kollectiv Rote Ruben (or something) forms the whole basis of the track "Fashioned to a Device Behind A Tree".
― sleeve, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 19:54 (sixteen years ago) link
seriously
there's an entire thread to be had in trainspotting the extensive samples & album art, it's all collage art. NWW would be much more widely situated as a plunderphonic band due to the extent of their borrowing if their references weren't so obscure
there are scores of 2nd gen sampling artists who critics casually describe as following on from oswald & negativland who I've met who actually trace their genesis lightbulb moment to hearing 'Sylvie and Babs'
― Milton Parker, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 20:00 (sixteen years ago) link
now that's an article you gotta write
― QuantumNoise, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 20:08 (sixteen years ago) link
(I shouldn't say scores, I should say 'two', but that's two people who heard NWW a ways before they heard Negativland -- NWW were always more European than American)
in any case in point, the new album cover:
http://www.andrewliles.com/discography/covers/lg/huffin.jpg http://lpcoverlover.com/2008/04/22/recording-a-girl-in-a-bikini-talking-to-her-hand-puppet/
― Milton Parker, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 20:28 (sixteen years ago) link
86
― dan selzer, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 21:52 (sixteen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― ILX System, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 23:01 (sixteen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― ILX System, Thursday, 15 May 2008 23:01 (sixteen years ago) link
I like when groups do things like this.
I've heard 40.
― earlnash, Saturday, 17 May 2008 08:42 (sixteen years ago) link
Too late to vote, but I've heard about 75 of 'em. For the most part, just the stuff that's most well-known in rock/pop circles.
― contenderizer, Sunday, 18 May 2008 18:56 (sixteen years ago) link
Meh, around 25 or so.
― stevienixed, Sunday, 18 May 2008 19:08 (sixteen years ago) link
Ok after going though the list more carefully I am at around 180.
Actually have records by about 55.
― sleeve, Sunday, 18 May 2008 19:28 (sixteen years ago) link
― Tuomas, Wednesday, May 14, 2008 9:28 AM (6 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
best post
― adam, Thursday, 2 October 2014 02:41 (nine years ago) link
79 skimming, probably more accurately in the 100 - 150 range, because I don't remember the names of the gazillion obscure European improvisors I've heard
― sarahell, Thursday, 2 October 2014 10:36 (nine years ago) link
This would be a good specialist subject on Mastermind.
― The Count has shot himself (Tom D.), Thursday, 2 October 2014 11:58 (nine years ago) link
64
― C21H23NO5 (nakhchivan), Thursday, 2 October 2014 12:04 (nine years ago) link
59 from a scan. Could've heard another 20 or so over the years or so but couldn't be arsed. I suppose I know what Magma will sound like so never bothered.
Awesome how 'conventional' and comforting it all looks now, rather than the everest of esoterica that this was. I could hit youtube and satisfy my curiosity but I'll take it for granted, another day etc. and of course will never get to it.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 2 October 2014 12:28 (nine years ago) link
Although what I wouldn't give to hear the invented ones...I would hope that a band did actually form by taking an invented name off that list and made the music purely based on what the name hinted at.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 2 October 2014 12:32 (nine years ago) link
About 100. I should up my game.
I suppose I know what Magma will sound like so never bothered.
I have no idea what you think Magma would sound like if you've never heard Magma.
I would hope that a band did actually form by taking an invented name off that list and made the music purely based on what the name hinted at.
Pretty sure that couldn't happen, because I'm pretty sure none of them actually were invented.
― emil.y, Thursday, 2 October 2014 12:45 (nine years ago) link
fairly sure ive heard magma so i counted them, although i dont remember them, same as about fifteen others from that list
― C21H23NO5 (nakhchivan), Thursday, 2 October 2014 13:01 (nine years ago) link
this list can absolutely go fuck itself
― Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Thursday, 2 October 2014 13:09 (nine years ago) link
17 for definite but there are a lot of the more well known ones (soft machine, magma, faust, sonny sharrock) where I can't remember if I actually heard them or not
― saer, Thursday, 2 October 2014 13:09 (nine years ago) link
not that it doesn't contain excellent bands & most of my favourite music of the day (no vdgg though!), but the fact of its existence is imo lamentable
― Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Thursday, 2 October 2014 13:10 (nine years ago) link
A different question might, how many have you played in the last year?
(2 - robert ashley, kraftwerk)
― saer, Thursday, 2 October 2014 13:11 (nine years ago) link
why doth it upset you so, mi'lj?
― C21H23NO5 (nakhchivan), Thursday, 2 October 2014 13:12 (nine years ago) link
you know this is from 1979 right
― example (crüt), Thursday, 2 October 2014 13:12 (nine years ago) link
because i'll never hear a quarter of these and it makes me feel inadequate
also it's canon-forming, even if its aim is otherwise
― Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago), Thursday, 2 October 2014 13:14 (nine years ago) link
and yes I do know that!
― Ƹ༑Ʒ (imago),
I'm a list hater and think they lead to museumification but at same time this was a pre-internet list which I think makes context pretty different (tho also arguably more elitist)
― saer, Thursday, 2 October 2014 13:14 (nine years ago) link
As far as I know this is the most obscure thing on this list:
http://www.discogs.com/Frank-Köllges-Drums-Voices-Knispel-Nie/release/1926085
If anyone can find a digital rip let me know...
― example (crüt), Thursday, 2 October 2014 13:15 (nine years ago) link
surely its just a public service in providing an inventory for the atomized fan of strange music with limited access to this stuff in the days when all of this was obscure and hard to find
― C21H23NO5 (nakhchivan), Thursday, 2 October 2014 13:17 (nine years ago) link
and lj if u care u can download albums by almost all of these bands fairly easily
You certainly know how to pick your targets, LJ
― The Count has shot himself (Tom D.), Thursday, 2 October 2014 13:20 (nine years ago) link
Blimey, !53! An increase of 54 from years ago.
― The Count has shot himself (Tom D.), Thursday, 2 October 2014 13:27 (nine years ago) link
You can just youtube at least a record/composition/crappy footage by most of these
I suppose I know what Magma will sound like so never bothered.I have no idea what you think Magma would sound like if you've never heard Magma.I would hope that a band did actually form by taking an invented name off that list and made the music purely based on what the name hinted at.Pretty sure that couldn't happen, because I'm pretty sure none of them actually were invented.― emil.y, Thursday, 2 October 2014 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― emil.y, Thursday, 2 October 2014 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
People do say some of them were invented. I like the idea, even if the invention story turns out to be er, invented.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 2 October 2014 13:41 (nine years ago) link