Thanksgiving's gonna be dark this year
― Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Wednesday, 10 August 2022 13:55 (one year ago) link
Perhaps by Bloodflowers RS was just influenced by all the new recently-dropped former major label bands' albums who'd lost access to skilled design companies
― PaulTMA, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 16:00 (one year ago) link
It looks as though they'd intended the album to be - in true 2000 style - an online-only release.
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Thursday, 11 August 2022 01:39 (one year ago) link
yeah, that's otm
― Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Thursday, 11 August 2022 06:48 (one year ago) link
https://open.spotify.com/album/4W7kDAiCJ3euyQPo0RU64g?si=uax8zk-VS9GvVYKt4fy8KQ
^^"cut" and "uyea sound" demos on spotify
― γππ π π € π ‘ π π π彑 (Austin), Monday, 29 August 2022 19:42 (one year ago) link
really? nobody has anything to say?
an official release of "uyea sound" guys! IT'S HAPPENING!
― γππ π π € π ‘ π π π彑 (Austin), Saturday, 10 September 2022 14:25 (one year ago) link
Well yeah but we all have it already
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 10 September 2022 15:19 (one year ago) link
Wish is getting the picture-disc treatment for the Record Store Day Thanksgiving-Interruption.
https://recordstoreday.com/SpecialRelease/15634
30th anniversary limited edition of The Cureβs hit best-selling, Grammy-nominated album Wish, pressed on double picture disc for the first time, exclusively for RSD Black Friday. Featuring the hit singles βHighβ, βFriday Iβm In Loveβ and βA Letter To Eliseβ. This double picture disc edition features newly remastered audio by Robert Smith and Miles Showell at Abbey Road Studios.
― peace, man, Wednesday, 14 September 2022 18:57 (one year ago) link
Picture disc is the best format for the quality of RSβ recent remasters.
― Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Wednesday, 14 September 2022 19:11 (one year ago) link
'A Letter To Elise' is the latest Cure video to be remastered, watch the full HD version now at https://t.co/J48FyjKS5p and pre-order your 30th anniversary copy of 'Wish' at https://t.co/AfZQwQKZBW #wish30 pic.twitter.com/TjYRR0gyMy— The Cure (@thecure) September 16, 2022
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 16 September 2022 14:58 (one year ago) link
"wendy time" demo >>>>>>>>>>
― γππ π π € π ‘ π π π彑 (Austin), Friday, 25 November 2022 15:49 (one year ago) link
"t6" was not expected
― γππ π π € π ‘ π π π彑 (Austin), Friday, 25 November 2022 16:16 (one year ago) link
"abetabw" O_O
― γππ π π € π ‘ π π π彑 (Austin), Friday, 25 November 2022 16:32 (one year ago) link
shame how they kept the slinky subfunk grooves alive post-kiss me but always ended up shelving them. "frogfish" reminds of some of the equally hilarious wahwah'd outtakes from the disintegration extras. they practically had an unreleased ep of "wendy time"s and "hot hot hot"s by the time rs fully embraced it; and there was had "the 13th" and the world was finally a better place.π
but seriously, this has fully exceeded expectations. the best of the unheard stuff is on par with the best of the series. extended mixes are old mixtape fodder and play like "classic rock" to me, but ymmv. otherwise, if you like this album and want to get lost in it a little bit, this paints a much finer picture of the band at the time and i understand feeling compelled to make it a double album. yay.
― γππ π π € π ‘ π π π彑 (Austin), Friday, 25 November 2022 17:16 (one year ago) link
I just bought this, I don't buy CDs anymore but keeping my Cure collection up to date.
― Bee OK, Friday, 25 November 2022 20:17 (one year ago) link
i didnβt get much out of the demos/out-takes - could definitely see why the latter didnβt progress
however! for ages Iβve bought into the fan semi-othodoxy that there was a better Wish to be had, if some of the b-sides had been elevated to the LP
listening to the scraps i can sort of understand that an LP with play/big hand/twilight garden/halo would have been much more firmly in the Disintegration mode - ie the record i wanted at the time - and that Smithβs decision to go for a kaleidoscopic guitar album was probably his last good bit of instinctual pop relevance decision-making?
― meat and two vdgg (emsworth), Saturday, 26 November 2022 02:56 (one year ago) link
ie i think it was a very good judgement at the time
― meat and two vdgg (emsworth), Saturday, 26 November 2022 03:14 (one year ago) link
So, I am a bigger Cure fan than most, though maybe not as much of some of you. Is it controversial to think this album ("Wish") is not just great and a perfect follow-up to "Disintegration," but one of the best guitar albums of the '90s as well?
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 26 November 2022 22:59 (one year ago) link
No. It's also their best classic lineup album.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 26 November 2022 23:01 (one year ago) link
To Wish Impossible Things really is incredible. Possibly the saddest Cure song.
― piscesx, Saturday, 26 November 2022 23:15 (one year ago) link
On the same album as "Apart"!
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 26 November 2022 23:16 (one year ago) link
I don't understand people who dislike this album but they exist.
― akm, Sunday, 27 November 2022 00:01 (one year ago) link
akm OTM
― castanuts (DJP), Sunday, 27 November 2022 14:03 (one year ago) link
β akm, Saturday, November 26, 2022
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 27 November 2022 14:07 (one year ago) link
Listened to the whole thing last night, I really enjoy the outtakes and demos on this one and can see myself listening to them more than once, which hasn't really been the case with previous deluxe sets they've put out. it helps that the demos are really studio demos and really fleshed out.
― akm, Sunday, 27 November 2022 16:47 (one year ago) link
as for the remaster itself: it was via apple music/iphone/earbuds so hard to tell definitively but IMO I didn't actually notice much of a difference in the mastering here vs the original release. I'm sure someone will complain about it.
― akm, Sunday, 27 November 2022 16:48 (one year ago) link
haha, steve hoffman forums delivers:
"Yep! I just DL'ed the Amazon Music HD streaming file for the new remaster (why is it only 16/44.1kHz?!) and A/B'ed it versus the original U.S. Elektra/Fiction CD and you're right, they definitely bumped up the high-mids & lowered some mid-bass, for clarity's sake. So it's good in one regard, that it overall sounds a bit clearer, BUT that high-mid bump gets a little grating on the ears at times, compared to the old CD. I could imagine the '22 as being a bit more fatiguing in the long haul, as a result. I also miss some of the mid-bass of the original, as even though that area can tend to muddy up a master a bit, it also carries the "weight" of the vocals (not to mention other instruments,) so the remaster lacks some thickness and realism in vocals that the original has. ALSO the remaster has extra limiting applied compared to the original, by up to 4 dB in a certain spot or two (but usually only 1 or 2 dB for the most part.) Not offensively so, since it's only catching some transients here & there, and limiter's set with such fast attack/release it's not audible, so the master isn't brickwalled by any means or even sounding "louder" dynamically as a result, just perceived a little "louder" at times cuz of that high-mid boost.Another thing of note: the vocals on the original has some sibilance here & there, but the remaster seems to have quashed that a good amount, so they must've used a de-esser on the master, maybe even to also try & combat the overall more-strident high-mid presence on the new one.
So anywho, you're right it's certainly no revelation in EQ, although some people may prefer it to the original, depending on their playback system. And even though it's not much audible, it's technically/measurably less dynamic, so that's a strike against it. BUT again, the only very hearable difference worth noting is that the new one sounds a bit clearer/brighter than the original, so you're listening system will likely dictate which one you prefer...
I'm assuming the new vinyl was cut from that same new digital master? I have an original '92 Greek pressing of this album, but it sounds very alike the original CD, just a touch "darker" so it's more crankable, to me."
― akm, Sunday, 27 November 2022 17:03 (one year ago) link
TLDR: it sounds fine
more crankable, got it
― γππ π π € π ‘ π π π彑 (Austin), Sunday, 27 November 2022 17:22 (one year ago) link
My regret is not having remastered versions of those b-sides, but I guess the 2004 box set took care of'em.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 27 November 2022 17:24 (one year ago) link
you want catalogue continuity??!! with thisl band?!
― γππ π π € π ‘ π π π彑 (Austin), Sunday, 27 November 2022 17:35 (one year ago) link
i do kind of hate that all the bsides are on that box set and not with the albums but what can you do. digital stuff has made this somewhat irrelevant now
― akm, Sunday, 27 November 2022 17:45 (one year ago) link
yeah
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 27 November 2022 17:47 (one year ago) link
Because of the Wish reissue, a complete version of the well-known XFM radio live performance from Kilburn '92 has popped up, it's the best-quality copy I've heard and a great listen. So if anyone wants it.
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/nzs2l6byftmayxktywej7/h?dl=0&rlkey=be5890ocywveuo1iw4u6gtlno
― MaresNest, Monday, 28 November 2022 11:44 (one year ago) link
oooh, thanks for the upgrade
― StanM, Monday, 28 November 2022 12:30 (one year ago) link
^ some background on the venue and what happened after it closed (john fashanu! religion! indecent assault!) : http://kilburnwesthampstead.blogspot.com/2016/01/kilburn-national-club.html
― StanM, Monday, 28 November 2022 12:38 (one year ago) link
While we are sharing stuff, here is a link to an AI digitally upscaled copy of the otherwise OOP "Show" film:
https://www. mediafire .com/file/zdm6goof107ji1d/The_Cure_-_Show_%25281992%2529.zip/file
(Obviously delete the spaces around "mediafire")
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 28 November 2022 14:14 (one year ago) link
Hmm, that Show file seems janky. I can download it but I can't unzip it or use Stuffit Expander on it.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 28 November 2022 15:56 (one year ago) link
I had trouble the first couple of times/apps, but my Mac opened it with iirc Unarchiver. No idea what caused the problem, but the movie inside works fine.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 28 November 2022 16:39 (one year ago) link
Yup, that did it, thanks!
I do highly recommend people get this because while the main body of the show itself was released as the Show album (either in the 2 CD version elsewhere or the album plus EP version here in the US), all those releases left off the encore numbers, and the audiovisual hit of "To Wish Impossible Things" in particular from this show is transcendent.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 28 November 2022 17:15 (one year ago) link
I've been spinning the Wish reissue for the last few days. Lots to dive into! Loving this so far.
― ilxor, Monday, 28 November 2022 17:32 (one year ago) link
Cool, thanks for that! The last time I saw Show was on a wobbly 2nd-generation VHS, so this is quite an improvement.
― ArchCarrier, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 08:47 (one year ago) link
Dang, the holidays are starting early. Thanks!
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 09:43 (one year ago) link
I saw Show at the cinema (having seen the actual Wish tour twice) and thought it was remarkably dull.
― piscesx, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 13:25 (one year ago) link
nothing beats the real thing.
sidebar: was a smidge disappointed there was nothing in the way of a _tape (demo)_ on the new deluxe edition. it's so great, but (still!) unavailable on streaming.
― γππ π π € π ‘ π π π彑 (Austin), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 17:44 (one year ago) link
https://www.brooklynvegan.com/robert-smith-talked-wish-for-its-30th-anniversary-on-tims-twitter-listening-party/
To celebrate Wish's 30th anniversary and plug the reissue, frontman Robert Smith -- whose Caps Lock key on his laptop has been stuck for years -- stopped by Tim's Twitter Listening Party to offer up a very entertaining track-by-track look back at the album. You can replay the whole thing over at the Listening Party site, but here are some highlights.
"MAKING THIS ALBUM I USED TO GET GOING AROUND 4PMβ¦ LISTEN TO THE PREVIOUS DAYS THINGβ¦ CYCLE TO THE LOCAL PUBβ¦ CYCLE BACKβ¦ FAFF ABOUTβ¦ EATβ¦ THEN GO FOR IT!," Robert said. "ME AND SIMON AND PERRY (AND OF COURSE DAVE AND STEVE) WERE THERE FOR THE DURATIONβ¦ BORIS AND PORL WOULD FREQUENTLY TAKE TIME AWAYβ¦ WE DEMOβD EVERYTHING AS A BAND, BUT WE RECORDED THIS WISH ALBUM IN DIFFERENT WAYS. USUALLY BORIS AND SIMON AND ME WOULD PUT DOWN A BACKING TRACK - ONCE WE WERE HAPPY WITH A TAKE (THIS WAS RECORDED TO TAPE REMEMBER - NO CUTTING AND PASTING BACK THEN!) ME AND SIMON AND PERRY WOULD OVERDUB βOTHER BITSβ. THEN PORL WOULD ADD HIS THING - THEN I WOULD SING - AND THEN ME AND BORIS WOULD ADD SOME FINAL BITS OF βTHE WEIRD STUFFββ¦ USUALLY PERCUSSION! BREAKFAST AND BED AROUND 7AMβ¦" Robert then added, "I STILL KEEP THESE HOURS! BUT I DO CYCLE TO THE PUB FAR LESS OFTEN."
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 30 November 2022 04:27 (one year ago) link
He really is a vampire.
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 30 November 2022 04:28 (one year ago) link
I for one would love to see photos of RS cycling to the pub back in 1991.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 November 2022 04:29 (one year ago) link
the NME cover feature at the time saw Robert explain that his High video look was the result of repeatedly getting his usual hair caught in overhanging branches and thus being pulled off his bike when cycling back to the studio.
― more crankable (sic), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 07:30 (one year ago) link