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Tug of War is alright, you know?
― oi listen mate, shut up (dog latin), Monday, 16 February 2015 16:08 (nine years ago) link
I think the very first solo album is my favorite. Ram is really amazing and all and has some nice tricks but also has a few parts that can really grate on your ears if you are not in the mood. McCartney II is the same way -- Temporary Secretary is forever teetering on the edge of being really annoying. First album is just perfect. The songs never go on too long, nothing is overly produced. You don't really get the feeling that Paul is dancing for you, and it is the most natural thing he's ever done.
I sort of wish Paul had never started Wings and just spent the 70s making home DIY records with Linda.
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 02:10 (nine years ago) link
Has There Been Any Discussion Of 'Hope For The Future'
― Milton Parker, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 07:15 (nine years ago) link
xpost Much as McCartney II has some great aesthetic moments for some reason I don't think I've ever made it all the way through the whole thing in one sitting. Ram is a big fave in my house.
― oi listen mate, shut up (dog latin), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 11:17 (nine years ago) link
excellent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_kkiIXdkuI
― piscesx, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 13:11 (nine years ago) link
Picked up the Wings at the Speed of Sound reissue and it's not nearly as bad as its reputation. Let'em In, The Note You Never Wrote, Warm and Beautiful, Beware My Love, and Silly Love Songs are all great tunes. Much better than Venus & Mars.
― DavidLeeRoth, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 13:51 (nine years ago) link
TOW is really damn uneven; some of the fun sounds forced, even musically. But it's tight. It's the next reissue, no?
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 14:14 (nine years ago) link
Tug of War and Pipes of Peace were the upcoming albums in the insert of the latest reissues, but I believe Paul mentioned in an interview around that time that they may not necessarily be next. There's still no Wild Life reissue.
― DavidLeeRoth, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 16:27 (nine years ago) link
The Family Way (soundtrack for 1966 film McC scored) is on Spotify - never heard it before today. It's not bad!
― Darin, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 17:29 (nine years ago) link
explanation for its uneveness here! http://www.beatlesbible.com/people/paul-mccartney/albums/tug-of-war/
mad detailed that piece. seems it was recorded as a double album at first; in several studios over more than a year in different countries with multiple session guys. they had 2 different drummers (Ringo! Steve Gadd!), Denny Laine was first 'in' then 'out', both Stevie Wonder AND Micheal Jackson worked on tracks for it, somehow the fella from 10CC gets involved, George Martin ends up producing, Wings officially announce a split, Lennon gets shot in the middle of it all.. as chaotic in its own way as the Band On The Run sessions.
― piscesx, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 17:41 (nine years ago) link
Several of those tunes ended up on Pipes of Peace.
― DavidLeeRoth, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 17:45 (nine years ago) link
tell you what aside from Say Say Say, Pipes Of Peace sucks so bad. according to that piece George Martin cherry picked the best tracks for Tug Of War and the rest went on ..Broad Street and Pipes..
― piscesx, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 17:53 (nine years ago) link
boring question: does anyone know who played guitar on 'The Man'?
(Pipes Of Peace is maybe a bit more stylistically homogeneous than Tug of War but I think it's just as good, I don't understand this consensus that it was a massive decline)
― soref, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 20:39 (nine years ago) link
My favourite bit in Tug Of War is that spooky little 30 second track. wish it had been longer.
― oi listen mate, shut up (dog latin), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 20:52 (nine years ago) link
I'm listening to TOW now for maybe the first time in 15 years and its actually really great. remarkably consistent compared to how I remember it, especially compared to a lot of other nonsense he was capable.
so other than MC2, BOTR, TOW and Ram, what else shpuld I definitely check out?
― oi listen mate, shut up (dog latin), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 21:08 (nine years ago) link
for two artists whose careers were getting less and less relevant, What's That You're Doing sounds incredibly vital and funky.
― oi listen mate, shut up (dog latin), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 21:20 (nine years ago) link
Those are the top tier, but CW is, if you like Ram you might dig aspects of Red Rose Speedway (or, considerably more ramshackle and halfassed, Wild Life), and if you like BOTR you'll probably enjoy Venus and Mars. ILM also has an unusually strong fanbase for Back to the Egg (or at least "Arrow Through Me"). First self-titled is a throwaway but charming and underrated.
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 21:21 (nine years ago) link
Nothing really succeds TOW, though. Flowers in the Dirt has some great tunes and little that's cringeworthy, but it's not as full-sounding or chockablock with 'moments' and bits, which are really what keep me coming back to this dude. Sometime I guess I really should check out his last, like, four albums.
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 21:26 (nine years ago) link
*alfred barges into thread to talk about press to play*
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 21:32 (nine years ago) link
Cheers DC.
One of the only gripes I have with ToW, and later McCartney in general, are his lyrics. It's great that every song is about something. But there are so many songs let down by clunky or embarrassing lines here and there. Here Today, for example, just never rings quite as affecting as it ought to thanks to this.
― oi listen mate, shut up (dog latin), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 21:33 (nine years ago) link
if he'd replaced Angry with Write Away, Press to Play would be just about perfect
― soref, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 21:36 (nine years ago) link
I tried sitting through Run Devil Run earlier today, but just couldn't do it.
― Darin, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 21:38 (nine years ago) link
"Press" is his best eighties single. Or "Take It Away."
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 22:12 (nine years ago) link
I rep for RDR but it's definitely one where context/narrative give inflection and layers to certain tracks that would otherwise just be ho-hum dad-band performances.
The lyrical clunk factor IMO starts rising precipitously after ToW. I don't know if he was smoking less weed or what, but the filler lyrics get less weird or interesting, most particularly where he *tries* to be weird and interesting. His straightforward lyrics on the other hand clearly improve when time and effort are put in (or when he has good collaborators) and he doesn't rationalize it to himself that going with the first crappy line he thinks of makes it spontaneous and Beatles-y.
Best 80s single, I'd have to say ''No More Lonely Nights'' or ''Say Say Say.''
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 22:16 (nine years ago) link
PressTake It AwayNo More Lonely NightsThis OneMy Brave FaceSay Say Say
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 22:20 (nine years ago) link
Waterfalls is my favourite 80s single. I like his waistcoat in the video as well
https://40.media.tumblr.com/7ed83edcf76ac9b09b9fa6fcf8b75c75/tumblr_naorvrfARv1r5cmgfo1_500.jpg
― soref, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 22:27 (nine years ago) link
I always forget how hairy his arms are
― soref, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 22:39 (nine years ago) link
I forget how obnoxious his smile is.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 22:42 (nine years ago) link
My Brave Face is great. The sound/production kinda distracts for me, but it's a heck of a song, deserved to be bigger.
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 23:35 (nine years ago) link
FITD was my fist McCartney album, so I'm biased. It's not great or essential but "This One," "Figure of Eight," "We Got Married," "Put It There," and "My Brave Face" are worth downloading.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 23:41 (nine years ago) link
"Figure of Eight" has unexpected chordal shifts; it reminds me a little of the forgotten "Stranglehold," off PTP.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 23:42 (nine years ago) link
I've never listened to Tug Of War and was kind of curious but then I remember that was the album with Ebony and Ivory on it and I just can't
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 23:49 (nine years ago) link
Easy to skip. I have for 19 years. The other Wondersong is far better.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 23:52 (nine years ago) link
btw the Stewart-Linda-McCartney harmonies that conclude "Take It Away" while those horns keep sassing might be his greatest eighties moment.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 February 2015 23:53 (nine years ago) link
I just realized that I've heard none of these LPs in their entirety.
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 19 February 2015 00:45 (nine years ago) link