Might be of interest (Ben Watt's Private Passions on Radio 3):
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001l4jf
― djh, Sunday, 7 May 2023 20:12 (one year ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NljK-sXaMtk
― MaresNest, Tuesday, 29 August 2023 21:38 (nine months ago) link