Nick Cave : Classic or Dud ?

She must just be unlucky with Cardiff then.

I didn't look at seated prices at all, but the presale standing allocation did seem to sell out quite quickly.

Foi Na Cruz was the beginning of the end for my liking him. Everything Birthday Party & the first four Bad Seeds albums (Tender Prey maybe, if there's room left) = desert island, the rest: not so much (even though there were some good tracks here and there, it just wasnt the same anymore) - I'm not hating on artists who get clean or start a family, it just how it turns out that "the tormented artist makes the best art" cliché didn't come out of thin air.

Foi na cruz is one of my fav bad seeds songs. Power ballad!!!

I love that you love that :-)

I'm the opposite, finding the best parts of the 21st-century albums what works best for me ("Higgs Boson Blues" and "Push The Sky Away" and more). The lurid earlier songs, maybe because I first heard them in audiences with frat-like guys singing along to "Stagger Lee," feel more distanced from the violence and death in the lyrics, and the most recent ones treat them as tangible.

As a lyricist I find him well-intentioned but ultimately pretty mid (as the kids say). When his music was more furious he could at least fake his way into matching it (see: Grindeman, which pretty effortlessly reverts back closer to formative form), but his more subdued current mode (I assume; I haven't heard the new one) brings the focus squarely on the words, and imo they're just not as compelling as intended. Which is odd, because I do often find him pretty thoughtful and perceptive and intelligent, even funny, it's just not translating to the albums.

Rain your kisses down upon me
Rain your kisses down in storms
And for all who'll come before me
In your slowly fading forms
I'm going out of my mind
Will leave me standing in
The rain with a letter and a prayer
Whispered on the wind

It's been happening for awhile, but he's seriously treading into late Scott Walker territory

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNfrLoQdB_E

idk i get the comparison but it has none of walker's bleakness so it's a completely different feeling, it's grandiose and beautiful

some pretty great bass from greenwood here

yeah i guess I was just thinking of his crooning and obtuse lyrics, but it's definitely a different vibe

(also I think a lot of Walker's later output was grandiose and beautiful in its own way)

To my surprise I kinda like it

love it and def. hear walker, and just generally a more baroque pop vibe than I've heard from him much before.