Oh no, Kate, you can't defend the Rural Purge!
"Yummy Yummy Yummy" is definitely about swallowing cum. I think it is firmly in the tradition of Serge Gainsbourg's "Les Sucettes" and Annie's "Chewing Gum."
― Josefa, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 01:59 (two months ago) link
I don't know who Dave Barry is but he's completely wrong about 'Yummy Yummy Yummy".― Tom D (the first British Asian ILXor) (Tom D.)
― Tom D (the first British Asian ILXor) (Tom D.)
dave barry is some american guy
named "dave"
i thought he was really funny when i was 12. he had a syndicated newspaper column. i remember his headshot in the newspaper column looking sort of like one of the wilson brothers, somewhere between brian and carl.
he had a sitcom too. like one that was supposedly "about" him. it ran for like three or four seasons. he was played by harry anderson from "night court". i don't think it had very much to do with dave barry's actual life.
Oh no, Kate, you can't defend the Rural Purge!― Josefa
― Josefa
well, maybe i won't, critique it and i'll listen :)
― Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 02:09 (two months ago) link
btw while we're talking kasenetz-katz joints, i fucking love "1, 2, 3, red light" by the 1910 fruitgum company... talking heads' cover of that one is sooooo good
idk how i feel about how many of those bubblegum pop songs were kind of gainsbourgian. gainsbourg was a creep, and i don't like the idea of pressuring young women to put out that way. it's a good song, though.
― Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 02:14 (two months ago) link
Green Acres was still a viable show when cancelled - its reruns ran for YEARS - as was Hee Haw, as proven by its long afterlife in syndication. We did need more urban shows, but not at the expense of the classic rural shows.
― Josefa, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 02:15 (two months ago) link
Dave Barry played in a rock group with Stephen King and Amy Tan. I think he said "MacArthur Park" was the worst song ever, which is extremely wrong.
― Josefa, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 02:18 (two months ago) link
Rick Beatoff
― papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 02:18 (two months ago) link
One of his videos was about why quantization makes modern music suck, contrasting Nickelback and Zep.
I really don’t think some natural swing was the missing piece to Nickelback.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 02:23 (two months ago) link
He dislikes a lot of the same music I do, and for more or less the same reasons, but at least I try not to be a scold about it.
― ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 02:23 (two months ago) link
"Sometimes You Feel Like A Nut" for Mounds and Almond Joy chocolate bars."
i STILL sing this to this day. like, i was singing it two days ago. that's how genius it is. that's seriously like 50 years of me singing that jingle. peterpaulsalmondjoysgotnuts...mounds don't.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 02:24 (two months ago) link
xps I used to find great joy in Dave Barry's columns in the Miami Herald back in the day, and he seems like a good guy, but he's the kind of Boomer who thinks the lyrics of "Hang On, Sloopy" are superior to the lyrics of "MacArthur Park."
― Josefa, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 02:25 (two months ago) link
Calvin K. Kazanjian was the founder and president of Peter Paul Inc., the maker of the Mounds and Almond Joy candy bars, located in Naugatuck, Connecticut. For 30 years, he met and solved the problems of an ever-growing business.
https://static.wixstatic.com/media/a6c0f4_ef69d9a633994e54b32ca482643ff6fa~mv2.jpg/v1/fill/w_238,h_298,al_c,lg_1,q_80,enc_auto/a6c0f4_ef69d9a633994e54b32ca482643ff6fa~mv2.jpg
― scott seward, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 02:25 (two months ago) link
Just watched the Beato video where he takes down Jack Harlow and "Texas Hold 'Em," and have to say, at least he's punching upwards.
― Josefa, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 02:27 (two months ago) link
I think what's happening here is you have a guy who's only kinda annoying being forced into being really annoying by the YouTube algorithm
― frogbs, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 02:34 (two months ago) link
i STILL sing this to this day. like, i was singing it two days ago. that's how genius it is. that's seriously like 50 years of me singing that jingle. peterpaulsalmondjoysgotnuts...mounds don't.― scott seward
― scott seward
mounds: yesnuts: no
i mean, batting two for two here
Green Acres was still a viable show when cancelled - its reruns ran for YEARS - as was Hee Haw, as proven by its long afterlife in syndication. We did need more urban shows, but not at the expense of the classic rural shows.― Josefa
mmmm i just don't know that commercial viability... i don't think of it as the be-all and end-all
like, for me, there's cultural impact to both the westerns and the rural sitcoms that followed them. bonanza? yes, great, classic all-time show, cancelling it for "being a western", that would be silly. the andy griffith show? same, fucking all-time. if the rural purge had cancelled the andy griffith show instead of, like, "mayberry rfd", i might have a problem with that.
i guess what i'd say is that i'd frame it more in terms of... like, the doctor shows. like, to me the problem with "the other martin loring" wasn't just that it was broadcast, it was that THIS FUCKING DR. KILDARE-ASS SHOW WAS STILL ON THE AIR IN 1973. Like WHAT THE FUCK. CBS had Mannix. NBC had the NBC Mystery Movie. ABC is showing fucking MARCUS WELBY, M.D.? That's pathetic. Completely pathetic. I'd rather watch "The Girl With Something Extra", even after learning that the "something extra" was ESP and not, like, a penis.
― Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 02:51 (two months ago) link
I think what's happening here is you have a guy who's only kinda annoying being forced into being really annoying by the YouTube algorithm― frogbs
― frogbs
forced "well, actually" is my least favorite sexual fetish
― Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 02:52 (two months ago) link
I didn't know he was in a band I sorta like that YouTube song you posted lol
― Frozen CD, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 03:31 (two months ago) link
xp i raced my bike in naugatuck once it was kinda terrifying. the town seemed kinda post-industrial-washout consistent tho
yeah, that's a hell of a jingle. "you asked for it-- YOU GOT IT, TOYOTA!" was WAY more immense. it owned all media. everywhere. all the time. it owns me. now.
― schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 04:24 (two months ago) link
he should go full inverse maron and do a tight 5 after each interview
― 145 feet up in a Jeffrey Pine (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 05:30 (two months ago) link
there was that time he spent years practicing chord identification with his son who later turned out to not really be interested in music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3Cb1qwCUvI
― corrs unplugged, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 08:34 (two months ago) link
the YouTube ecosystem needs Beato to feel like the teacher so people like Neely and Finnerty can feel like your peers
― ን (nabisco), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 15:19 (two months ago) link
i basically know this guy only from pat finnerty videos but his signature lp special is rad imo
https://images.ctfassets.net/m8onsx4mm13s/3l9hCDnmmlh9da4eD9kf3K/6169e1577647e4b25be663352bd3732a/LPSDB21BMNH1_front__1_.png
― memphis milano: the new trend of the 80s (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 15:27 (two months ago) link
i think i also have a bias against someone like rick beato because of my occupation. 9 out of 10 times people similar to him (dude dad musos) will come in and grill me about my receiver and my speakers - things i have no interest in other than i know what sounds good to me - and then they will leave. without ever buying anything.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 16:35 (two months ago) link
I think I'm right in saying that for a lot of music tuition youtubers - and especially in the guitar world - the real money they're making is not from adverts or patreon or sponsored videos or paid promo or whatever but from selling courses off the back of their channel. Rick's approach to this has long been something called the Beato Book which he sells at fifty bucks a pop, and if you've ever wondered whats actually in it, here's a review:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EfLcFImdg8
conclusion: lol, no thanks pal
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 17:22 (two months ago) link
in his defence, he always has nice things to say about swervedriver, who he often cites in random videos as one of the greatest ever rock bands. that fanboy side of him is quite endearing
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 17:33 (two months ago) link
c'mon the guy is a complete tool
― budo jeru, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 17:37 (two months ago) link
Yes he likes Swervedriver but he only likes Mezcal Head on, which is analogue to only liking Nirvana Unplugged or something, at least in my house.
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 17:40 (two months ago) link
haha yeah for sure, I don't fully hate him though xp
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 17:41 (two months ago) link
(I only really love mezcal head too, oops)
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 17:42 (two months ago) link
i find him quite likeable but conversely find most of his musical taste excruciating.
― stirmonster, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 17:54 (two months ago) link
His first big mistake was not calling his debut album Meet the Beat-O
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 17:58 (two months ago) link
meato beato manifesto
― memphis milano: the new trend of the 80s (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 18:16 (two months ago) link
I've never watched a rick beato video but I made fun of one of his yt thumbnails on twitter once and I still occasionally get his fans replying with "well actually" so fuck him.
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 18:17 (two months ago) link
if there was a music youtuber in london with the same last name, he'd be the english beato
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 18:21 (two months ago) link
Haha
― calstars, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 18:24 (two months ago) link
this thread justifies its existence with pat finnerty promo. well done all around!
― interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 18:36 (two months ago) link
Hey, hey, heyJust think, while you've been gettin' down and out about the liarsAnd the dirty, dirty cheats of the worldYou could've been makin' fun of This. Rick. Beat.
― meatster of puppets (peace, man), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 18:44 (two months ago) link
i'm pretty sure my uncle tim would be a big fan of rick beato if he was alive
tim died young - had a stroke a couple years back. he was a couple years younger than beato. big classic rock fan. had a home studio, knew a lot of stuff about music and so forth. sweet guy. i loved him a lot.
i once asked him, though, if he liked kate bush, and he reacted like i'd just asked him if he was a girl.
i'm not saying rick beato himself is like that. i'm just saying that my uncle tim would have LOVED rick beato.
― Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 18:55 (two months ago) link
he should do a video on the jazz messengers and the innovation in art blakey's drumming style and call it something like 'hail the beat of art'
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 19:01 (two months ago) link
this man came of age in the "yummy yummy yummy i got love in my tummy" era
he was born in '62 so he would have been around 6 years old... idk if this is what "coming of age" means
― c u (crüt), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 19:02 (two months ago) link
old enough to develop perfect pitch
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 19:03 (two months ago) link
I think the first video I saw of his he was deconstructing the chords of Phil Collin’s “against all odds” and almost orgasming (gasming?) at the sheer genius of it
― calstars, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 19:13 (two months ago) link
AND
― PaulTMA, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 19:16 (two months ago) link
― c u (crüt), Tuesday, March 26, 2024 2:02 PM (thirteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
idk how old he is, the point is you can pick out huge hits from any era with terrible lyrics. not a new thing.
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 19:18 (two months ago) link
KDH's ascension as the killer journalist of guitar youtube has been such a treat
People keep mentioning youtubers in the music/guitar zone who are more likable than Beato, but we should be fair and consider the whole field: would you rather be locked in a room for two days with Beato or fifteen minutes with Rob Chapman?
I actually do think of Beato kind of like the teacher you basically like but everyone will crack up doing mean impressions of after school; being make-fun-able is surely a big part of what makes the channel work. He's stodgy and blowhardy about certain stuff and does those hilarious short lessons where he's like "here's an easy exercise you can try as a warmup (plays convoluted modal solo with no further explanation)" and spends a weird about of video time pointing a finger in the air and acting out how much he's savoring a harmony or whatever. But I find him broadly likable, he's fun to watch taking apart stuff he's genuinely really into, and his "I will listen like a disciple to all your old stories" approach often gets some great interviews out of people. (Though I really wish I could see edits of those at like 1/3 the length.) If forced to watch an hour of an old session musician talking to Beato or Jack Conte, I think I'd take Beato.
― ን (nabisco), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 19:19 (two months ago) link
itt lots of people doing a bad job of making fun of rick beato
― na (NA), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 19:24 (two months ago) link
a defend the indefensible thread is more interesting
― c u (crüt), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 19:25 (two months ago) link
I could have sworn we only recently had this debate, but I have no problem with the dude. The only problem I have with him, honestly, is the thumbnails that every single look at me YouTube clip gets. But I've never heard him say anything, particularly stupid or offensive, and if anything he's one of the few interviewers on YouTube that just lets his guests speak. Sure, he might have relatively conservative guitar oriented taste, but I have heard him say multiple times that he tries to keep abreast of contemporary music, if only to learn about what people are listening to, which is more curiosity than many people his age show. And when he doesn't like something, he says why. It has the same reggaeton beat or cicada trap hi hats, for example, it's the same four chords over and over again, for example, there's no key change, that sort of thing. It's not just knee-jerk.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 19:58 (two months ago) link
I tried to throw some making-fun-of in there, the short guitar lessons are genuinely hilarious
― ን (nabisco), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 20:00 (two months ago) link
The other guy who is equally annoying and shows up in my algo as much as Beato is Paul Davids, the Dutch/Scandi guy with a creepy telecaster fetish.
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 20:05 (two months ago) link
It's not just knee-jerk.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, March 26, 2024 2:58 PM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
complaining that reggaeton uses the riddim or a rap song uses a loop actually are knee jerk rejections of the genres and their conventions
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 20:10 (two months ago) link
I had no idea about any of these other nerds, looking forward to exploring!
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 March 2024 02:26 (two months ago) link
Should there be another thread for non-Beato YT nerds actually worth watching?
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 27 March 2024 14:57 (two months ago) link
If forced to watch an hour of an old session musician talking to Beato or Jack Conte, I think I'd take Beato.
Conte annoys me no end, but I've really come around on Jack Stratton (Vulfpeck) and love listening to him talk about '70s session musicians.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-xu0x5-B9g
― Jordan s/t (Jordan), Wednesday, 27 March 2024 15:00 (two months ago) link
My phone must have heard me talking about this stuff, because it just reminded me that there is a new video out of Beato interviewing the drummer from Tool, and I would be lying if I said I was not all in.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 March 2024 00:39 (two months ago) link
His dissections of contemporary music can be annoying, but not nearly as annoying as the video thumbnails for his dissections of contemporary music.
― MarkoP, lunes 25 de marzo de 2024 10:14 PM (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink
Like I feel like his videos are at least a little more nuanced and insightful than the titles and thumbnails have you lead to believe.
― MarkoP, lunes 25 de marzo de 2024 10:15 PM (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink
Ugh I know. I want the ragebait titles and fake indignation reactions trend to fucking die already but it seems they send in the views and it’s going to stay for a long time.
I don’t mind Beato. It’s been more than a year since I see anything by him… Spent several pandemic days watching him out of boredom and he seems chill and knowledgeable… at least when it comes to talking about music he likes which is mostly rock and jazz. His opinions on “most listened tracks on Spotify” were very bland and uninteresting… at least those I watched.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 28 March 2024 01:56 (two months ago) link
never heard of this guy. ilxors apparently spend a lot of time watching youtube videos where ppl break down songs?
― jaymc, Thursday, 28 March 2024 03:55 (two months ago) link
I watch more Youtube on the my living room tv than any network or streaming service, tbh.
― ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 28 March 2024 04:07 (two months ago) link
I don't know much Tool but thought it was a lovely interview. Danny is beyond humble and charming which kind of carries it for me. Pretty cool that an active, renowned band's genesis, existence and entire catalog happened/happens in two little rooms.
― Psychocandy Apple Grey (Pyschocandles), Thursday, 28 March 2024 04:40 (two months ago) link
its subtle but I think this might be the guy he's making fun of in this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3oHvFjtMlQ
― frogbs, Thursday, 28 March 2024 13:57 (two months ago) link
lollllllll
― budo jeru, Thursday, 28 March 2024 14:02 (two months ago) link
that was great
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Thursday, 28 March 2024 14:39 (two months ago) link
Lol that was otm
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 28 March 2024 15:39 (two months ago) link
i think tony's perserverence is doing some of the work there. the points are true but not funny in delivery rly? but 10 dips in it's like...lol u mad bro. yeah ok. damn. you keep going ha B- /gradeeverything
― schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Thursday, 28 March 2024 16:11 (two months ago) link
Iirc Beato did have an okay video about why people his age might not like contemporary music. He had some ok specific insights, whether or not you agreed with his takeaways.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 March 2024 16:47 (two months ago) link
josh, do you agree with his takeaways?
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Thursday, 28 March 2024 16:49 (two months ago) link
I can't remember honestly. The only one I remember is him complaining that things are a little too quantized, and there is no subtle tempo variation, which our (old) ears can detect. I guess I understand that. I don't care too much about lack of key changes or things like that, though I suppose I can see someone who is into that stuff being annoyed with their absence. Me, I do know that my appreciation of what's on the charts ebbs and flows over the years, based on trends, some of which I jibe with, some of which I don't. Sometimes the radio seems pretty copycat and conservative, sometimes it's pretty wild.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 March 2024 16:53 (two months ago) link
jaymc, Beato was first brought to my attention when I was learning about theory behind the modes of Steely Dan guitar solos, I wanna say Larry Carlton's KidC...?
I'm obviously incredibly sorry I ever clicked that because now I have to look at a thumbnail of his every other time I glance at the YT recommends sidebar.
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 28 March 2024 16:56 (two months ago) link
here it is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wZp3LleWF0
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 28 March 2024 16:57 (two months ago) link
― schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Thursday, March 28, 2024 11:11 AM (forty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
I mean if you don't know Tony Zaret's shtick I highly encourage you to at least check out the thumbnails here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=videos
― frogbs, Thursday, 28 March 2024 17:18 (two months ago) link
oooh well that didn't work. try this
http://www.youtube.com/tonyzaret
― frogbs, Thursday, 28 March 2024 17:19 (two months ago) link
i did enjoy larry carlton's kid charlemagne breakdown
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Thursday, 28 March 2024 17:21 (two months ago) link
TY—soon enuf i will
― schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Thursday, 28 March 2024 17:35 (two months ago) link
sorry weird xp
― schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Thursday, 28 March 2024 17:36 (two months ago) link