itt we make fun of rick beato

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Oh no, Kate, you can't defend the Rural Purge!

"Yummy Yummy Yummy" is definitely about swallowing cum. I think it is firmly in the tradition of Serge Gainsbourg's "Les Sucettes" and Annie's "Chewing Gum."

Josefa, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 01:59 (two months ago) link

I don't know who Dave Barry is but he's completely wrong about 'Yummy Yummy Yummy".

― Tom D (the first British Asian ILXor) (Tom D.)

dave barry is some american guy

named "dave"

i thought he was really funny when i was 12. he had a syndicated newspaper column. i remember his headshot in the newspaper column looking sort of like one of the wilson brothers, somewhere between brian and carl.

he had a sitcom too. like one that was supposedly "about" him. it ran for like three or four seasons. he was played by harry anderson from "night court". i don't think it had very much to do with dave barry's actual life.

Oh no, Kate, you can't defend the Rural Purge!

― Josefa

well, maybe i won't, critique it and i'll listen :)

Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 02:09 (two months ago) link

btw while we're talking kasenetz-katz joints, i fucking love "1, 2, 3, red light" by the 1910 fruitgum company... talking heads' cover of that one is sooooo good

idk how i feel about how many of those bubblegum pop songs were kind of gainsbourgian. gainsbourg was a creep, and i don't like the idea of pressuring young women to put out that way. it's a good song, though.

Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 02:14 (two months ago) link

Green Acres was still a viable show when cancelled - its reruns ran for YEARS - as was Hee Haw, as proven by its long afterlife in syndication. We did need more urban shows, but not at the expense of the classic rural shows.

Josefa, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 02:15 (two months ago) link

Dave Barry played in a rock group with Stephen King and Amy Tan. I think he said "MacArthur Park" was the worst song ever, which is extremely wrong.

Josefa, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 02:18 (two months ago) link

Rick Beatoff

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 02:18 (two months ago) link

One of his videos was about why quantization makes modern music suck, contrasting Nickelback and Zep.

I really don’t think some natural swing was the missing piece to Nickelback.

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 02:23 (two months ago) link

He dislikes a lot of the same music I do, and for more or less the same reasons, but at least I try not to be a scold about it.

ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 02:23 (two months ago) link

"Sometimes You Feel Like A Nut" for Mounds and Almond Joy chocolate bars."

i STILL sing this to this day. like, i was singing it two days ago. that's how genius it is. that's seriously like 50 years of me singing that jingle. peterpaulsalmondjoysgotnuts...mounds don't.

scott seward, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 02:24 (two months ago) link

xps I used to find great joy in Dave Barry's columns in the Miami Herald back in the day, and he seems like a good guy, but he's the kind of Boomer who thinks the lyrics of "Hang On, Sloopy" are superior to the lyrics of "MacArthur Park."

Josefa, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 02:25 (two months ago) link

Calvin K. Kazanjian was the founder and president of Peter Paul Inc., the maker of the Mounds and Almond Joy candy bars, located in Naugatuck, Connecticut. For 30 years, he met and solved the problems of an ever-growing business.

https://static.wixstatic.com/media/a6c0f4_ef69d9a633994e54b32ca482643ff6fa~mv2.jpg/v1/fill/w_238,h_298,al_c,lg_1,q_80,enc_auto/a6c0f4_ef69d9a633994e54b32ca482643ff6fa~mv2.jpg

scott seward, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 02:25 (two months ago) link

Just watched the Beato video where he takes down Jack Harlow and "Texas Hold 'Em," and have to say, at least he's punching upwards.

Josefa, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 02:27 (two months ago) link

I think what's happening here is you have a guy who's only kinda annoying being forced into being really annoying by the YouTube algorithm

frogbs, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 02:34 (two months ago) link

i STILL sing this to this day. like, i was singing it two days ago. that's how genius it is. that's seriously like 50 years of me singing that jingle. peterpaulsalmondjoysgotnuts...mounds don't.

― scott seward

mounds: yes
nuts: no

i mean, batting two for two here

Green Acres was still a viable show when cancelled - its reruns ran for YEARS - as was Hee Haw, as proven by its long afterlife in syndication. We did need more urban shows, but not at the expense of the classic rural shows.

― Josefa

mmmm i just don't know that commercial viability... i don't think of it as the be-all and end-all

like, for me, there's cultural impact to both the westerns and the rural sitcoms that followed them. bonanza? yes, great, classic all-time show, cancelling it for "being a western", that would be silly. the andy griffith show? same, fucking all-time. if the rural purge had cancelled the andy griffith show instead of, like, "mayberry rfd", i might have a problem with that.

i guess what i'd say is that i'd frame it more in terms of... like, the doctor shows. like, to me the problem with "the other martin loring" wasn't just that it was broadcast, it was that THIS FUCKING DR. KILDARE-ASS SHOW WAS STILL ON THE AIR IN 1973. Like WHAT THE FUCK. CBS had Mannix. NBC had the NBC Mystery Movie. ABC is showing fucking MARCUS WELBY, M.D.? That's pathetic. Completely pathetic. I'd rather watch "The Girl With Something Extra", even after learning that the "something extra" was ESP and not, like, a penis.

Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 02:51 (two months ago) link

I think what's happening here is you have a guy who's only kinda annoying being forced into being really annoying by the YouTube algorithm

― frogbs

forced "well, actually" is my least favorite sexual fetish

Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 02:52 (two months ago) link

I didn't know he was in a band I sorta like that YouTube song you posted lol

Frozen CD, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 03:31 (two months ago) link

xp i raced my bike in naugatuck once it was kinda terrifying. the town seemed kinda post-industrial-washout consistent tho

yeah, that's a hell of a jingle. "you asked for it-- YOU GOT IT, TOYOTA!" was WAY more immense. it owned all media. everywhere. all the time. it owns me. now.

schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 04:24 (two months ago) link

he should go full inverse maron and do a tight 5 after each interview

145 feet up in a Jeffrey Pine (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 05:30 (two months ago) link

there was that time he spent years practicing chord identification with his son who later turned out to not really be interested in music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3Cb1qwCUvI

corrs unplugged, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 08:34 (two months ago) link

the YouTube ecosystem needs Beato to feel like the teacher so people like Neely and Finnerty can feel like your peers

ን (nabisco), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 15:19 (two months ago) link

i basically know this guy only from pat finnerty videos but his signature lp special is rad imo

https://images.ctfassets.net/m8onsx4mm13s/3l9hCDnmmlh9da4eD9kf3K/6169e1577647e4b25be663352bd3732a/LPSDB21BMNH1_front__1_.png

memphis milano: the new trend of the 80s (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 15:27 (two months ago) link

i think i also have a bias against someone like rick beato because of my occupation. 9 out of 10 times people similar to him (dude dad musos) will come in and grill me about my receiver and my speakers - things i have no interest in other than i know what sounds good to me - and then they will leave. without ever buying anything.

scott seward, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 16:35 (two months ago) link

I think I'm right in saying that for a lot of music tuition youtubers - and especially in the guitar world - the real money they're making is not from adverts or patreon or sponsored videos or paid promo or whatever but from selling courses off the back of their channel. Rick's approach to this has long been something called the Beato Book which he sells at fifty bucks a pop, and if you've ever wondered whats actually in it, here's a review:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EfLcFImdg8

conclusion: lol, no thanks pal

Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 17:22 (two months ago) link

in his defence, he always has nice things to say about swervedriver, who he often cites in random videos as one of the greatest ever rock bands. that fanboy side of him is quite endearing

Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 17:33 (two months ago) link

c'mon the guy is a complete tool

budo jeru, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 17:37 (two months ago) link

Yes he likes Swervedriver but he only likes Mezcal Head on, which is analogue to only liking Nirvana Unplugged or something, at least in my house.

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 17:40 (two months ago) link

haha yeah for sure, I don't fully hate him though xp

Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 17:41 (two months ago) link

(I only really love mezcal head too, oops)

Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 17:42 (two months ago) link

i find him quite likeable but conversely find most of his musical taste excruciating.

stirmonster, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 17:54 (two months ago) link

His first big mistake was not calling his debut album Meet the Beat-O

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 17:58 (two months ago) link

meato beato manifesto

memphis milano: the new trend of the 80s (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 18:16 (two months ago) link

I've never watched a rick beato video but I made fun of one of his yt thumbnails on twitter once and I still occasionally get his fans replying with "well actually" so fuck him.

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 18:17 (two months ago) link

if there was a music youtuber in london with the same last name, he'd be the english beato

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 18:21 (two months ago) link

Haha

calstars, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 18:24 (two months ago) link

this thread justifies its existence with pat finnerty promo. well done all around!

interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 18:36 (two months ago) link

Hey, hey, hey
Just think, while you've been gettin' down and out about the liars
And the dirty, dirty cheats of the world
You could've been makin' fun of
This.
Rick.
Beat.

meatster of puppets (peace, man), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 18:44 (two months ago) link

i'm pretty sure my uncle tim would be a big fan of rick beato if he was alive

tim died young - had a stroke a couple years back. he was a couple years younger than beato. big classic rock fan. had a home studio, knew a lot of stuff about music and so forth. sweet guy. i loved him a lot.

i once asked him, though, if he liked kate bush, and he reacted like i'd just asked him if he was a girl.

i'm not saying rick beato himself is like that. i'm just saying that my uncle tim would have LOVED rick beato.

Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 18:55 (two months ago) link

he should do a video on the jazz messengers and the innovation in art blakey's drumming style and call it something like 'hail the beat of art'

Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 19:01 (two months ago) link

this man came of age in the "yummy yummy yummy i got love in my tummy" era

he was born in '62 so he would have been around 6 years old... idk if this is what "coming of age" means

c u (crüt), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 19:02 (two months ago) link

old enough to develop perfect pitch

Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 19:03 (two months ago) link

I think the first video I saw of his he was deconstructing the chords of Phil Collin’s “against all odds” and almost orgasming (gasming?) at the sheer genius of it

calstars, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 19:13 (two months ago) link

AND

PaulTMA, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 19:16 (two months ago) link

he was born in '62 so he would have been around 6 years old... idk if this is what "coming of age" means

― c u (crüt), Tuesday, March 26, 2024 2:02 PM (thirteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

idk how old he is, the point is you can pick out huge hits from any era with terrible lyrics. not a new thing.

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 19:18 (two months ago) link

KDH's ascension as the killer journalist of guitar youtube has been such a treat

People keep mentioning youtubers in the music/guitar zone who are more likable than Beato, but we should be fair and consider the whole field: would you rather be locked in a room for two days with Beato or fifteen minutes with Rob Chapman?

I actually do think of Beato kind of like the teacher you basically like but everyone will crack up doing mean impressions of after school; being make-fun-able is surely a big part of what makes the channel work. He's stodgy and blowhardy about certain stuff and does those hilarious short lessons where he's like "here's an easy exercise you can try as a warmup (plays convoluted modal solo with no further explanation)" and spends a weird about of video time pointing a finger in the air and acting out how much he's savoring a harmony or whatever. But I find him broadly likable, he's fun to watch taking apart stuff he's genuinely really into, and his "I will listen like a disciple to all your old stories" approach often gets some great interviews out of people. (Though I really wish I could see edits of those at like 1/3 the length.) If forced to watch an hour of an old session musician talking to Beato or Jack Conte, I think I'd take Beato.

ን (nabisco), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 19:19 (two months ago) link

itt lots of people doing a bad job of making fun of rick beato

na (NA), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 19:24 (two months ago) link

a defend the indefensible thread is more interesting

c u (crüt), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 19:25 (two months ago) link

I could have sworn we only recently had this debate, but I have no problem with the dude. The only problem I have with him, honestly, is the thumbnails that every single look at me YouTube clip gets. But I've never heard him say anything, particularly stupid or offensive, and if anything he's one of the few interviewers on YouTube that just lets his guests speak. Sure, he might have relatively conservative guitar oriented taste, but I have heard him say multiple times that he tries to keep abreast of contemporary music, if only to learn about what people are listening to, which is more curiosity than many people his age show. And when he doesn't like something, he says why. It has the same reggaeton beat or cicada trap hi hats, for example, it's the same four chords over and over again, for example, there's no key change, that sort of thing. It's not just knee-jerk.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 19:58 (two months ago) link

I tried to throw some making-fun-of in there, the short guitar lessons are genuinely hilarious

ን (nabisco), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 20:00 (two months ago) link

The other guy who is equally annoying and shows up in my algo as much as Beato is Paul Davids, the Dutch/Scandi guy with a creepy telecaster fetish.

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 20:05 (two months ago) link

It's not just knee-jerk.

― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, March 26, 2024 2:58 PM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

complaining that reggaeton uses the riddim or a rap song uses a loop actually are knee jerk rejections of the genres and their conventions

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 20:10 (two months ago) link

I had no idea about any of these other nerds, looking forward to exploring!

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 March 2024 02:26 (two months ago) link

Should there be another thread for non-Beato YT nerds actually worth watching?

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 27 March 2024 14:57 (two months ago) link

If forced to watch an hour of an old session musician talking to Beato or Jack Conte, I think I'd take Beato.

Conte annoys me no end, but I've really come around on Jack Stratton (Vulfpeck) and love listening to him talk about '70s session musicians.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-xu0x5-B9g

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Wednesday, 27 March 2024 15:00 (two months ago) link

My phone must have heard me talking about this stuff, because it just reminded me that there is a new video out of Beato interviewing the drummer from Tool, and I would be lying if I said I was not all in.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 March 2024 00:39 (two months ago) link

His dissections of contemporary music can be annoying, but not nearly as annoying as the video thumbnails for his dissections of contemporary music.

― MarkoP, lunes 25 de marzo de 2024 10:14 PM (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink

Like I feel like his videos are at least a little more nuanced and insightful than the titles and thumbnails have you lead to believe.

― MarkoP, lunes 25 de marzo de 2024 10:15 PM (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink

Ugh I know. I want the ragebait titles and fake indignation reactions trend to fucking die already but it seems they send in the views and it’s going to stay for a long time.

I don’t mind Beato. It’s been more than a year since I see anything by him… Spent several pandemic days watching him out of boredom and he seems chill and knowledgeable… at least when it comes to talking about music he likes which is mostly rock and jazz. His opinions on “most listened tracks on Spotify” were very bland and uninteresting… at least those I watched.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 28 March 2024 01:56 (two months ago) link

never heard of this guy. ilxors apparently spend a lot of time watching youtube videos where ppl break down songs?

jaymc, Thursday, 28 March 2024 03:55 (two months ago) link

I watch more Youtube on the my living room tv than any network or streaming service, tbh.

ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 28 March 2024 04:07 (two months ago) link

I don't know much Tool but thought it was a lovely interview. Danny is beyond humble and charming which kind of carries it for me. Pretty cool that an active, renowned band's genesis, existence and entire catalog happened/happens in two little rooms.

Psychocandy Apple Grey (Pyschocandles), Thursday, 28 March 2024 04:40 (two months ago) link

its subtle but I think this might be the guy he's making fun of in this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3oHvFjtMlQ

frogbs, Thursday, 28 March 2024 13:57 (two months ago) link

lollllllll

budo jeru, Thursday, 28 March 2024 14:02 (two months ago) link

that was great

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Thursday, 28 March 2024 14:39 (two months ago) link

Lol that was otm

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 28 March 2024 15:39 (two months ago) link

i think tony's perserverence is doing some of the work there. the points are true but not funny in delivery rly? but 10 dips in it's like...lol u mad bro. yeah ok. damn. you keep going ha B- /gradeeverything

schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Thursday, 28 March 2024 16:11 (two months ago) link

Iirc Beato did have an okay video about why people his age might not like contemporary music. He had some ok specific insights, whether or not you agreed with his takeaways.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 March 2024 16:47 (two months ago) link

josh, do you agree with his takeaways?

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Thursday, 28 March 2024 16:49 (two months ago) link

I can't remember honestly. The only one I remember is him complaining that things are a little too quantized, and there is no subtle tempo variation, which our (old) ears can detect. I guess I understand that. I don't care too much about lack of key changes or things like that, though I suppose I can see someone who is into that stuff being annoyed with their absence.

Me, I do know that my appreciation of what's on the charts ebbs and flows over the years, based on trends, some of which I jibe with, some of which I don't. Sometimes the radio seems pretty copycat and conservative, sometimes it's pretty wild.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 March 2024 16:53 (two months ago) link

jaymc, Beato was first brought to my attention when I was learning about theory behind the modes of Steely Dan guitar solos, I wanna say Larry Carlton's KidC...?

I'm obviously incredibly sorry I ever clicked that because now I have to look at a thumbnail of his every other time I glance at the YT recommends sidebar.

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 28 March 2024 16:56 (two months ago) link

here it is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wZp3LleWF0

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 28 March 2024 16:57 (two months ago) link

i think tony's perserverence is doing some of the work there. the points are true but not funny in delivery rly? but 10 dips in it's like...lol u mad bro. yeah ok. damn. you keep going ha B- /gradeeverything

― schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Thursday, March 28, 2024 11:11 AM (forty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I mean if you don't know Tony Zaret's shtick I highly encourage you to at least check out the thumbnails here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=videos

frogbs, Thursday, 28 March 2024 17:18 (two months ago) link

oooh well that didn't work. try this

http://www.youtube.com/tonyzaret

frogbs, Thursday, 28 March 2024 17:19 (two months ago) link

i did enjoy larry carlton's kid charlemagne breakdown

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Thursday, 28 March 2024 17:21 (two months ago) link

TY—soon enuf i will

schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Thursday, 28 March 2024 17:35 (two months ago) link

sorry weird xp

schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Thursday, 28 March 2024 17:36 (two months ago) link


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