― jel, Tuesday, 27 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
"Slanted.." is the only album that I play regularly, and I admit it's good, as is half of "Wowee Zowee". They CAN be almost great ("Summer Babe", "Here", "Father to a Sister of a Thought"), but seem content to pad out releases with half-arsed Pavement-by-numbers material. Or should that be Fall-by-numbers?
I lost interest by "Brighten the Corners" when it was clear that they could only do one thing, and we're probably going to do it for ever.
― Dr. C, Tuesday, 27 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― JM, Tuesday, 27 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
They make me bob my head and laugh and feel good - which is the whole of the point of Pavement (as far as I see it). And...job well-done.
'Crooked Rain, Crooken Rain' is simply brilliant in it's slackerisms. And is in my top 3 (maybe even THE) summer album list. Already have listened to it many times this very summer period and will surely listen to it many more times (as I have for past summers). It still hasn't lost it's charms on me (not come summer time, at least). Last summer, a younger cousin of mine got married. And...I played 'Crooked Rain' loud as I drove there and back as the perfect soundtrack to all that has been slacked in my young, but getting old, life. Worked perfectly for that "I'm 30. What do I have to show for it?" mood when you just want to say "Fuck it all. I'm going driving in search of some far off land of fairies and hot cocoa." (fine, maybe that's just me, but)
'Woowee Zowee' is good in many spots (nix the forced "punk" tracks). And Malkmus solo album is a solid summer album (for the most part). The rest...I don't care too much for, but. 'Crooked Rain' makes up for the rest alone.
― michael g. breece, Monday, 2 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― gareth, Monday, 2 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Josh, Monday, 2 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― alex in montreal, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― gareth, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Robin Carmody, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Michael Bourke, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
It being Preston, Lancashire would have fitted Pavement's rather tiresome Anglophile image, I suppose.
― Robin Carmody, Wednesday, 18 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Lord Custos, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― ethan, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― james, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Mitch Lastnamewithheld, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Lord Custos, Wednesday, 31 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― bob snoom, Saturday, 3 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 11:26 (twenty years ago) link
― Michael B, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 11:31 (twenty years ago) link
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 11:33 (twenty years ago) link
― Michael B, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 11:36 (twenty years ago) link
― Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 12:04 (twenty years ago) link
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 12:04 (twenty years ago) link
well because your vitriol for the indie bands you don't like is so potent! but what people don't realize is that this is only because a True Indie Rock Player cannot tolerate impure visions, hangers-on, fake players in tha tr00 game! Why ride the Night Train to Butterglory when you can have the '97 California Cabernet of Trigger Cut! latecomers get a late pass, we been up in this game since the jump!
― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 12:11 (twenty years ago) link
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 12:12 (twenty years ago) link
― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 12:32 (twenty years ago) link
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 12:34 (twenty years ago) link
― Michael B, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 12:38 (twenty years ago) link
― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 12:39 (twenty years ago) link
― alex in montreal, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 13:10 (twenty years ago) link
best song off S&E sounds least like the rest; i'd like them if all their songs sounded like that one.
― Pantheism F. Mohair (res), Saturday, 1 November 2008 20:19 (fifteen years ago) link
With each Pavement album, there's like six good-to-great songs, and the rest is just absolute self-indulgent wankery garbage. It's shocking that their first couple records have achieved the status of Perfect Canonical Rock Classics That Everyone Should Buy. TRUST ME - THEY'RE NOT!
― Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 1 November 2008 20:47 (fifteen years ago) link
I completely agree with that, at least for S&E. I couldn't even listen to CRCR-- particularly that godawful single "Cut Your Hair"; Wowee Zowee and Brighten the Corners failed to make any impression on me whatsoever-- well, except that they seemed exceedingly mediocre. S&E has a few good songs, but "Here" is the standout tune, and it doesn't sound like the rest. I never feel inclined to listen to anything else by Pavement besides that song.
― Pantheism F. Mohair (res), Saturday, 1 November 2008 20:51 (fifteen years ago) link
here?
also, classic!
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― Kevin Keller, Saturday, 1 November 2008 20:52 (fifteen years ago) link
the last song sounds a lot like "here." i'm blanking on the name. "i've been waiting. anticipating."
― Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 1 November 2008 21:01 (fifteen years ago) link
pavement are my favorite band ever. it makes me a little sad to know that some people don't like them; there's certainly some aspect of their music that everyone can love. a lot of people complain about malkmus' voice (especially early), but i think that he does some fantastic things with his voice that don't really fall under the "technical" category. i've never really heard anyone say that the guy can't write a tune, mostly because that would be absurd to say. i can see why some people would be a bit put off by his (to them) excessive ennui and laid-back style, but for me that just enhanced what i loved about him. also, the more time you spend with the records, the more you can appreciate the songs which aren't as obvious at first. i know he first time i listened to S+E, i didnt really 'get' it besides "here", which i probably put on repeat for 5 hours straight. once you get adjusted to that particular style, the other stuff starts to make sense. what might ostensibly be "self-indulgent" are to me fruitful exercises in his singular, genius style. to each his own, though.
― Kevin Keller, Saturday, 1 November 2008 21:04 (fifteen years ago) link
mr snrub, that's "our singer", S+E's closer
http://blogs.nashvillescene.com/nashvillecream/2009/02/the_spin_pavement_reunion_at_t.php
four-fifths of Pavement reunites (not really) for Bob N.'s wedding
― dmr, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 17:16 (fifteen years ago) link
was spiral stairs not invited? harsh.i certainly wouldn't mind seeing Pavement play live again, but all of the hubbub and hype that would accompany a potential reunion would be dreadful, I'm sure.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 17:19 (fifteen years ago) link
Bob Nastanovich says:
... As far as Pavement goes, I'd have gladly played Pavement song(s). My parts were mostly easy as many of you know and require little practice. I'd love it if Pavement reunited. Gary Young and Scott Kannberg were not invited to the wedding as I have not kept up with either as well as I should have over the last 10-15 years. Our wedding was limited to 100 guests (with plenty of family involved (both sides)). In my opinion, there should not be a Pavement reunion without all six members involved. Anyways, for the record, I'm game...
Best, Bob N
p.s. The first toast goes to Tony Crow. BN
Posted On: Monday, Feb. 23 2009 @ 10:42PM
― now is the time to winterize your manscape (will), Tuesday, 24 February 2009 18:18 (fifteen years ago) link
Ha, so Bob is suggesting that the Pavement reunion should have three drummers? Uhhh. Anyway, this is probably inevitable, since they've all been "game" since the band broke up! I assume all it would take is a phone call from Malkmus.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 18:25 (fifteen years ago) link
My favorite description of them is still from GQ's 1992 year end list: "The Knack meets Sonic Youth"
― Cunga, Sunday, 24 May 2009 16:33 (fifteen years ago) link
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h271/stckhlmcnd/YouTube-Pavement-MajorLeagues_12486.jpg
― hat for slashes (get bent), Sunday, 26 July 2009 22:37 (fourteen years ago) link
<3
― ian, Sunday, 26 July 2009 22:41 (fourteen years ago) link
terror twilight will have its proper due someday. it might take another ten years.
― hat for slashes (get bent), Sunday, 26 July 2009 22:46 (fourteen years ago) link
Well i'm sure we'll be getting one of those deluxe reissues sometime soon
― Number None, Sunday, 26 July 2009 22:48 (fourteen years ago) link
can some kind soul seed the live LP that came with BtC reissue? thanks in advance if you can
― iago g., Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:07 (fourteen years ago) link
On May 16, the song (Harness Your Hopes) hit the RIAA’s classification for Gold status, meaning it hit the sales equivalent for 500,000 units across platforms. Malkmus was just as confused as the public by the song’s ascent — “I heard it was on a playlist or something,” he told Stereogum. “I’m not an expert on Spotify but, you know, one of those ‘Monday Moods’ or whatever the f— they do.”
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 00:28 (two weeks ago) link
lol SM
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 00:49 (two weeks ago) link
“Im pushing 60 i dont care”
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 02:48 (two weeks ago) link
Pretty wild that this is Pavement's top 10 on Spotify:
1. Harness Your Hopes 148M2. Cut Your Hair 42M3. Range Life 32M4. Gold Soundz 27M5. Spit on a Stranger 16M6. Stereo 11.9M7. Zurich Is Stained 11.3M8. Shady Lane 10.8M9. Grounded 10.1M10. Father to a Sister of Thought 9.2M
― jaymc, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 03:15 (two weeks ago) link
Zurich is Stained 11.3M is the actual title
― A So-Called Pulitzer price winner (President Keyes), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 03:41 (two weeks ago) link
40M daggers
― Mrs. Ippei (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 03:54 (two weeks ago) link
Here's the long version of how this song has exploded and a great read. Glenn McDonald is a hero too.
https://www.stereogum.com/2105993/pavement-harness-your-hopes-spotify/columns/sounding-board/
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 05:19 (two weeks ago) link
How cleanly the top 10 divides into tiers: S = "Harness Your Hopes", A = the three big radio-friendly songs from Crooked Rain, B = a career spanning selection of wistful tunez (+weird outlier "Stereo")
― The king of the demo (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 12:21 (two weeks ago) link
Stereo is an iconic Pavement song not a weird outlier
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 12:33 (two weeks ago) link
Yeah always felt that was a breakthrough single of sorts
― a based robot like Bender (stevie), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 12:50 (two weeks ago) link
What about the voice of Geddy Lee etc
an esteemed ilxor even took their name from it!
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 13:11 (two weeks ago) link
yeah, Stereo was a single at their commercial (until recently) peak, no?
― your mom goes to limgrave (dog latin), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 13:15 (two weeks ago) link
that's enough fact checkin for now
― your mom goes to limgrave (dog latin), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 13:16 (two weeks ago) link
Why is Zurich Is Stained up there now. This makes no obvious sense
― PaulTMA, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 13:16 (two weeks ago) link
It's not my fault
― jaymc, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 13:17 (two weeks ago) link
I didn't mean "Stereo" was a weird outlier in Pavement's overall discography or sound, just within my tiers list.
It isn't 'moody' like "Grounded" or "Zurich" or "Stranger", it's a lot goofier than the big trio of songs from Crooked Rain, it's maybe got more in common with "Harness" than anything else in that top 10 most-streamed list.
― The king of the demo (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 13:36 (two weeks ago) link
And if anyone is baffled by "Zurich"'s placement here, let me just add that the 2xCD reissue of S&E came out when I was a high school sophomore, and I spent an entire hour one time listening to "Zurich" on repeat and crying while mowing my parents' lawn.
― The king of the demo (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 13:39 (two weeks ago) link
My friends had a kid around 2000, and by the time the kid was three or four it was kind of a parlor trick for them to put on "Stereo" and have the kid sing along with it word perfect.
― paisley got boring (Eazy), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 13:40 (two weeks ago) link
are you all still trying to figure this out? Spotify makes pkayliats, they put a pavement song on a playlist, lots of people who aren’t pavement fans listen to the playlist. It isn’t a bunch of little griel marcusues going “ummm Zurich is stained is the new ghostly weird Central Valley rubiyat” or something
― brimstead, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 13:43 (two weeks ago) link
lol
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 13:50 (two weeks ago) link
Thank you o wise one
― a based robot like Bender (stevie), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 13:51 (two weeks ago) link
pavement pkayliats
― A So-Called Pulitzer price winner (President Keyes), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 13:57 (two weeks ago) link
That Top 10 is like some bullshit classic rock Memorial Day list of The Greatest Songs of All Time where "Dust In the Wind" is #1.
― pplains, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 13:57 (two weeks ago) link
its quite a thrill as a fanboy seeing Harness have some success. The rare occasion when dreaming about a bside being better known actually comes true.
― cajunsunday, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 14:15 (two weeks ago) link
lol brimstead
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 14:29 (two weeks ago) link
"zurich" is short/melodic/doesn't have SM shrieking at any point — it's ideal for spotify's "classic indie of the 90s" playlists that halfway cool coffee shops or co-working spaces play on endless repeat
― tylerw, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 14:38 (two weeks ago) link
What about the song "Harness Your Hopes"? How did it get that high?
― A So-Called Pulitzer price winner (President Keyes), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 14:39 (two weeks ago) link
Does it get played by ordinary guy?
― a based robot like Bender (stevie), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 14:46 (two weeks ago) link
I met it, and it does
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 14:46 (two weeks ago) link
now where's our fact checking cuz
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 14:47 (two weeks ago) link
where oh where is the "debris slide" tik tok trend
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 15:34 (two weeks ago) link
we can dream
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 15:35 (two weeks ago) link
Looks like no Malkmus solo song has topped 2 million streams, and the most popular ones from the s/t album ("Jenny & The Ess-Dog" et al).
― paisley got boring (Eazy), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 15:49 (two weeks ago) link
malkmus's solo career is on the whole very good, more people should stream his post-pavement work imo
― intheblanks, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 16:05 (two weeks ago) link
zurich is stained has always felt to me like a real standout on S+E ever since I bought it as a high schooler in 1998. not surprised that people enjoy listening to it above the other s+e tracks, which are clattery and noisier. i don't think it's the playlist thing like harness your hopes is.
― intheblanks, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 16:08 (two weeks ago) link
also it starts off with a line about being a wimpy loser, people love songs about that
― intheblanks, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 16:10 (two weeks ago) link
Some Jicks songs are higher than 2 million though
― A So-Called Pulitzer price winner (President Keyes), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 16:10 (two weeks ago) link
Oh wow, one of those cases where I didn't even think of searching for two different artist pages.
― paisley got boring (Eazy), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 16:12 (two weeks ago) link
The "Harness Your Hopes" phenomenon is still so funny/random to me (even though, yes, I get "how" it happened). I received a notification a few weeks back that the song was released as a single... I guess to qualify for the RIAA certification(?)
― OG Rizzler (morrisp), Wednesday, 22 May 2024 22:10 (two weeks ago) link
+1 in the highschooler discovering pavement and immediately latching onto Zurich is stained.
It really is a little bop. The slide guitar still mesmerises me today like it did the first time.
― H.P, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 22:14 (two weeks ago) link
Also vry cute story above about the 4yo parlour trick Eazy. Someone teach their kid Conduit For Sale next.
― H.P, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 22:17 (two weeks ago) link