What are the best/essential Smashing Pumpkins tracks?

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drown
mayonnaise
glynis
slunk
silverfuck
pissant
hello kitty kat
why am i so tired
to sheila
the mouths of babes

6335, Tuesday, 30 August 2005 18:21 (eighteen years ago) link

"Since it hasn't been mentioned yet, any love for the acoustic version of Cherub Rock released on Viewphoria?"

I've got a lot of love for that version. Always a good choice whenever someone hands you a guitar and says "Play".

J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 23:12 (eighteen years ago) link

why billy corgan is such a cool rock star (from way back in 2000):

Rock star Billy Corgan has broken his silence regarding the events that took place last Saturday at the ECW television taping in Peoria, IL. The following is a transcript of his comments on the incident, which was recently covered on MTV, and will air, in its entirety, this Friday during ECW on TNN.

"Let me start by saying that this incident with "Lou E. Imitation" is a complete outrage. For weeks I had been looking forward to singing the national anthem in front of the good people of Peoria, Illinois, an honor bestowed on me by Paul Heyman himself, who had personally invited me to open the show last Saturday night. ECW is my favorite promotion in the world, and never having sung our national anthem in public before, it was an opportunity I just couldn’t say no to.

It started out to be a great night, getting the chance before the show to talk to some of my favorite wrestlers, great guys like Jerry Lynn, Rob Van Dam, The Sandman and Justin Credible. I was nervous about doing a great rendition of the anthem, but looked forward to sitting back after I sang to watch the show. So after the warm reception I received from the crowd when I was announced as a surprise guest, what followed was like a bucket of cold water. Before I could play a note I was attacked by Lou “I used to be the Sign Guy but the Dudley’s left me behind” Dangerously and his band of reckless thugs, Steve Corino, Scotty Anton, and Jack Victory.

It was, needless to say, a unwarranted intrusion upon my performance, and an insult that won’t be easily forgotten. Lou may be the greatest manager in sports entertainment, but he is a no class individual who should be ashamed to call himself an American. Hopefully the fans will get the chance to judge this entire situation for themselves F
riday night on TNN"

ballz mahoney, Wednesday, 31 August 2005 05:33 (eighteen years ago) link

SP OPX playlist I made a couple of months back:

Bury Me
Plume
La Dolly Vita
1979
Galapogos
Ava Adore
Tristessa
Never Let Me Down
Hummer
Obscured

If I made the list today it'd probably be different, but I'd say 1979, La Dolly Vita, Never Let Me Down are certs. Obscured is the first one in the list every time.

Laney, Wednesday, 31 August 2005 12:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh man, too many. Don't have my records here but here's a go:

The End is the Beginning is the End
Bury Me
Soothe
1979
Appels & Oranjes
Soma
Snail
Where Boys Fear To Tread
Bullet With Butterfly Wings

dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 13:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Wasn't Sharon Osbourne on about what a prat he was a while ago?
I don't know.I've never met Billy but I know people who have and he was really nice to them and got them backstage passes to a show on The Machina Tour...I don't think that his voice is unbearable...it's unique. I suppose if your not used to it it may be a little whiny...I like it. I've always liked the Pumpkins because you cannot put them into a category....

Here are my favourites...
Bodies
Mayonaise
Cherub Rock (man...that music video..)
Pissant
Saturnine
Pug

Lisa farren, Saturday, 10 September 2005 10:27 (eighteen years ago) link

"Wasn't Sharon Osbourne on about what a prat he was a while ago?"

takes one to know one, i suppose!

latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 10 September 2005 12:13 (eighteen years ago) link

http://snsimages.tribune.com/media/photo/2001-06/236343.jpg

latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 10 September 2005 12:14 (eighteen years ago) link

i never ever ever tire of posting that jpeg

latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 10 September 2005 12:15 (eighteen years ago) link

(and yes i know it was posted upthread!)

my own POX (in no order):

bury me
thirty three
jellybelly
cherub rock
rocket
hummer
eye
here is no why
tristessa
mayonnaise

latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 10 September 2005 12:24 (eighteen years ago) link

thank you latebloomer i don't think thirty three gets enough cred. it's great

jared11, Saturday, 10 September 2005 13:03 (eighteen years ago) link

i would also like to mention thirty three, and state that it's my favorite SP video.

billstevejim (billstevejim), Saturday, 10 September 2005 14:18 (eighteen years ago) link

"Bozo, you hurt me deeply in my heart."

PB, Saturday, 10 September 2005 14:31 (eighteen years ago) link

I can't really stand 33 anymore because of the christian imagery in the lyrics that in retrospect seems to be the beginnings of the "god speaks throught me" rock star concept album phase... i.e. when the pretensiousness got unbearable.

Laney, Saturday, 10 September 2005 22:35 (eighteen years ago) link

I can't stand any Smashing Pumpkins lyrics from Mellon Collie on because THEY MAKE NO FUCKING SENSE

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Saturday, 10 September 2005 22:38 (eighteen years ago) link

But I KNEW THE SADNESS OF THE WOOOOOOOOOOOOORLD!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 10 September 2005 22:39 (eighteen years ago) link

I remember some of the lyrics making sense to me when I was 15. A decade on they don't have the same potency. (Listening to the words full stop seems like a tremendous waste of time these days)

Laney, Saturday, 10 September 2005 22:45 (eighteen years ago) link

thirty-three
1979
soma
luna
hello kitty kat
medellia of the gray skies
zero
pennies
disarm
whir

fizzcaraldo (Justin M), Sunday, 11 September 2005 00:44 (eighteen years ago) link

three years pass...

DISARM still hits my sweet spot tbh

ian, Thursday, 27 August 2009 22:50 (fourteen years ago) link

would agree

heard rhinoceros for the first time in over a decade the other day, sounded awesome

king boy pamito (electricsound), Thursday, 27 August 2009 22:55 (fourteen years ago) link

that track, it gets so BIG. i still remember though it must be 5+ years since i've heard it

jergins, Thursday, 27 August 2009 22:59 (fourteen years ago) link

rhinoceros is an essential smashing pumpkins track

sylvia plathter cathter (Curt1s Stephens), Friday, 28 August 2009 00:33 (fourteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d93Yvmz4vuQ

any songs recorded while billy still had long hair are pretty essential

sylvia plathter cathter (Curt1s Stephens), Friday, 28 August 2009 00:35 (fourteen years ago) link

gish & siamese dream are truly lovely albums. if BC hadn't been such a dickcheese this band would have been much more highly regarded now than they are.

http://snsimages.tribune.com/media/photo/2001-06/236343.jpg

MIDIchlorian (latebloomer), Friday, 28 August 2009 01:16 (fourteen years ago) link

ha, DID NOT MEAN TO POST THAT PIC WITH THAT POST, BUT LMAO ANYWAY

MIDIchlorian (latebloomer), Friday, 28 August 2009 01:17 (fourteen years ago) link

What about "Lucky 13" and "Slow Dawn"?

claws of jungle red (Stevie D), Friday, 28 August 2009 02:34 (fourteen years ago) link

six years pass...

rotten apples
luna
muzzle
if there is a god
jellybelly
for martha
porcelina of the vast oceans
thru the eyes of ruby
blank page
meladori magpie
snail
geek usa
siva
rocket
soma
where boys fear to tread
fuck you
set the ray to jerry
i of the mourning
thirty-three
vanity
speed kills
glass & the ghost children
valentine
wishing you were real
soot & stars
here is no why
mellon collie and the infinite sadness
autumn nocturne
pastichio medley
xyu
with every light
soothe
plume
hello kitty kat
appels + oranjes
i am one
home
blank
ugly
beautiful
so very sad about us

flappy bird, Saturday, 3 October 2015 23:49 (eight years ago) link

The thing I really liked was the kinda Hendrix styled riffs on the first album on like "I Am One", "Siva" and "Bury Me". They are all kind of plays off the same style but those were the tracks that caught me early on.

earlnash, Sunday, 4 October 2015 01:23 (eight years ago) link

autumn nocturne
valentine
wishing you were real
soot & stars
so very sad about us

I thought I was a relative SP completist but I have no idea what any of these are!

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Sunday, 4 October 2015 03:53 (eight years ago) link

"Annie-Dog" from ADORE is a stunner.
"Obscured"
"Cash Car Star"
"The Aeroplane Flies High"
"Age of Innocence"
"Pissant"

beamish13, Sunday, 4 October 2015 05:42 (eight years ago) link

Let Me Give the World to You

hhoffman, Sunday, 4 October 2015 09:13 (eight years ago) link

siva
cherub rock
geek usa
1979
appels + oranjes
whir
hello kitty kat
obscured
starla
eye

hey wow that makes ten

brimstead, Sunday, 4 October 2015 22:19 (eight years ago) link

i tried, i really tried, but for me this is an all-SD and MCIS list...

01 Mayonaise (my one must-have pick)
02 Thru the Eyes of Ruby
03 Rocket
04 Cupid de Locke
04 Cherub Rock
05 Where Boys Fear To Tread
06 Tonight, Tonight
07 Porcelina of the Vast Oceans
08 Silverfuck
09 1979
10 Muzzle

This is definitely a "best" rather than a "sampler" list - maybe not showing all the things they did well or tried to do, but w/e. There's tons of stuff I like or love on Gish and Adore and even Machina but if I'm honest with myself about what I'd absolutely have to save from this band if the earth caught fire, this is it. Sturm und drang and the wash of inchoate rage and romantic disaster against the voice of Billy Corgan, hopeful little dreamboy amongst the flowers. The best psychedelia of the 90s? The fucking weirdest guitar rock albums to sell millions and millions of copies to however many equally wide-eyed and secretly precious teenage souls? God this was a great band in its day.

Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 8 October 2015 18:27 (eight years ago) link

Rhinoceros
Mayonnaise (despite my aversion condiment)
Soma
Drown

A few years ago I realized this was all the SD I needed.

the cuddling of the american behind (how's life), Thursday, 8 October 2015 18:56 (eight years ago) link

SP

the cuddling of the american behind (how's life), Thursday, 8 October 2015 18:56 (eight years ago) link

i kind of want to make a mix editing together a bunch of billy's guitar solos, pastichio medley style

brimstead, Thursday, 8 October 2015 18:57 (eight years ago) link

I thought I was a relative SP completist but I have no idea what any of these are!

"soot and stars" is a machina b-side, a relatively pretty piano ballad. it was on that b-side collection they included with some copies of the greatest hits. the others iirc are on various demo comps. "autumn nocturne" is a hilarious pick for "essential" sp

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Thursday, 8 October 2015 18:58 (eight years ago) link

i kind of want to make a mix editing together a bunch of billy's guitar solos, pastichio medley style

― brimstead, Thursday, October 8, 2015 2:57 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes! this is the first one that came to mind-

2:12 to 2:38

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzBVvD1vUvM

flappy bird, Thursday, 8 October 2015 19:01 (eight years ago) link

2:20 to 2:40

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbPCMoAFHAg

flappy bird, Thursday, 8 October 2015 19:02 (eight years ago) link

nice

brimstead, Thursday, 8 October 2015 19:10 (eight years ago) link

i have signed up to do the Smashing Pumpkins poll and it will be more than 20 picks.

so in about 3 years...

Bee OK, Friday, 9 October 2015 06:07 (eight years ago) link


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