New Christgau Consumer Guide From MSN Music

new one out
http://music.msn.com/music/consumerguide

OH SNAP! paris goes to jail, then gets a "dud" from xgau

(i feel his reviews are somehow less predictable now that he's on msn - not sure why.....)

The column seems more shallow this time around - not as densely layered. And is there really so little new music that he needs to review Girl Talk and Clap Your Hands Say Yeah?

I wish he tied the idea that the Girl Talk album is oppressive more to its never coalescing into something deeper rather than its proving filthy rappers are bloody good fun. And even more than that to the fact that Night Ripper is a mash-up album with all the significance and longevity that implies.

I top tened this record but with reservations. Something about it always disturbed me. And Xgau's review has now lead me to figure out why (however unwittingly). The obviousness of the samples only underlines our inability to escape information-as-commodity or at least to step outside of it (to whatever extent), perhaps even to make something, well, deep of it. This never bugged me with "The Payoff Mix" or DJ Shadow or The Best Bootlegs in the World Ever (though I never got what The Avalanches were doing) because mixology was never a career option for Double Dee & Steinski and because Shadow did something fathomless with his samples and because the mash-uppers on Best Bootlegs were so anyonymous and most of the song one-offs. But mixology IS a career option for Greg Gillis whose name is displayed in the review and whose face is displayed on the CD (or one of them, I forget). And I fear that no matter how much is renown increases, we'll never get to know who he really is which means we'll never get to know where HE stands in relation to his samples which means we won't discover a new, inventive relationship with information. Which means I may be transforming from a pomo yaysayer to a modernist crank.

how much HIS renown increases...

The 2006 Dean's List

http://www.robertchristgau.com/xg/pnj/deans07.php

Um, he dug the Burial album? I'm stunned. Is there a review anywhere?

Yeah, I was surprised, too. I best it will be reviewed in Feb's MSN Consumer Guide.

I bet

45. Daft Punk: Live 2007 (Virgin)

!!!

ditto. i guess i'm allowed to own that shit now.

No Age, too. Great record.

Goddamn that's a shitty list

lol on Lucinda Williams, a permanent member of his Unimpeachable Canon.

I'd be hard pressed to come up with 10 albums on that list that I enjoy.

lol on Lucinda Williams, a permanent member of his Unimpeachable Canon.

who made a really pretty good album with a great single on it

Yeah, but still, that list blows.

Lil Wayne: The Carter 3 (Purloined Datadisc)

lol

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Please Mommy, stop reading teh Christgau to me!

That's how I felt after going to Christgau's website (1996 graphics and all) and checking his Sabbath reviews on the archive. This guy gets paid for this shit?

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2006? am i missing something?

Lil Wayne: The Carter 3 (Purloined Datadisc)

lol + o_O

2006? am i missing something?

yeah, a typo

Lil Wayne: The Carter 3 (Purloined Datadisc)

lol + o_O

-- BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, January 29, 2008 5:19 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

^^sfj's #1 of the year

i mean he didn't even bother saying like "bootleg" or something

weird that neither of those dudes bother to totally differentiate between Carter 3 the as-yet unreleased 2008 album and the various 2007 mixtapes of leaked material that probably won't be on the album but get called Carter 3 anyway. it'll be pretty confusing if the album actually comes out this year and they put that title on their lists for the second year in a row.

(xpost yeah, what jordan said. i mean he said "purloined datadisc," which is the part where I'm laughing with him, but still....dude's top 3 rap albums are the year are Soulja Boy and two Weezy mixtapes).

I'm slightly astonished that we shared a taste in Singles.

Did Ya Rollin' Doo Doo make the 1991 Dean's List?

Bill Magill--I get the impression that your definition of a lame list is one that is not oh, 60% metal (with 'A' reviews)

I do not have the most rounded tastes, which is not good.

Bill Stanton

lol on Lucinda Williams, a permanent member of his Unimpeachable Canon.

Fer chrissakes, he even gave Essence, her only obvious clunker, a freakin' A-minus.

New CG up.

It's untrue that 15 years ago we would've called Untrue trip-hop. M. Burial speeds up and spaces out too much for true trip.

I never knew illbient well enough to attach to anyone. DJ Spooky? Mutamassik? The Wordsound label?

KJBozo u are rong

"It's untrue that 15 years ago we would've called Untrue trip-hop. M. Burial's music would have been called dubstep."

MORE DUDS

Various Artists
"After Dark" (Italians Do It Better)

This guy's popularity mystifies me.

I never liked trip-hop or illbient much (and I don't like Burial much), so I'm not the one to ask.

Strangely, though, I am a little more interested in hearing those Go! Team, No Age, and Manu Chao albums now. But who knows if I'll ever get around to it.

Untrue is totally dubstep gone trip-hop. I thought that was obvious. And I love the album for it.

(Actually, I've otherwise had pretty much no use for dubstep, but tip-hop is a-ok by me.)

*trip-hop, although Q-Tip and T.I.P. are good by me, too

So, I should probably ask Bob this myself, but does anybody understand why he would think "Feminists don't have a sense of humor" is such a hilarious line? (Is it just that, like, Nellie McKay is a feminist, and she clearly has a sense of humor, so it's ironic? Cute, I guess, but it's hard to see why it would leave anybody rolling on the floor. Though no doubt it's funnier in the context of the song, at least for people who like Nellie.) (I don't hate her, though I also haven't paid that much attention.)

Keyshia Cole
"Just Like You" (Geffen)
Well, maybe not exactly like you ("Let It Go," "Just Like You").

The hell is this supposed to mean?

Amerie
"Work That"
("Because I Love It" [Sony/BMG])

The choice cut on the Amerie album is from the MJB album?

http://music.msn.com/music/consumerguide/dudofthemonth
Have to say, I kind of agree with him regarding Stars of the Lid.