CLASSIC ROCK TRACKS POLL: THE RESULTS

Good afternoon, listeners, thanks for tuning in to 107.7 WILX "The Aorta." Starting on Monday, we will be rolling out the top 100 tracks of all time, as decided by 63 voters, with beautiful images courtesy of gr80.

You all voted for a total of 917 songs, and remember there were only 861 in the official nominations list, so that's a lot of write-ins.

But first, we are starting things off with our subpolls. And for a very special "no request weekend" you told us what songs you say NO to requesting. That's right, the 10 worst classic rock songs of all time, coming up in a few minutes.

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37 ballots came with 'worst' lists. Here are the 10 songs that made you say "stay away from me-hee":

10. The Guess Who – American Woman
31 points, 4 votes, 2 worst place votes

Wow, really? Is this residual hatred for Lenny Kravitz? I have no need for the long version of this but the core of the song is super rockin'!

Huh, is it just the cheap America-bashing that people hate?

8. (tie) Jimmy Buffett - Margaritaville
33 points, 5 votes

oops, did not bold that one

8. (tie) Jimmy Buffett - Margaritaville
33 points, 5 votes

wtf American Woman

I HATE "American Woman", voted it 7th worst.

"Now woman, I said stay away
American woman, listen what I say"

but if she stays away, how can she hear him? hideously stupid

Nibblin' on sponge cake,
watchin' the sun bake;
All of those tourists covered with oil.
Strummin' my six string on my front porch swing.
Smell those shrimp
They're beginnin' to boil.

8. (tie) Journey – Don’t Stop Believin’
33 points, 4 votes, 1 worst place vote

disgusting
both of them
bring it on!

whoops xp

107.7 WILX "The Aorta" is going to make me laugh all week long.

hahahahha okay, that's fair - but surely true of lots of "woman, get thee gone!" songs. Listen this one last time, etc.

But that lead guitar sound, man! Like a balloon overfilled with diesel fumes, something really great about that. DOODLE OO DOOOOOOOOO

"Margaritaville" made my 100 on principle - Jimmy Buffett filled a lot of the empty playlist slots where I wasn't hearing lower-tier Bob Seger et al. down south. Not my favorite Buffett but it's fine.

that was xpost to Euler re: American Woman

"Don't Stop Believin'" is soooooo painfully overplayed and over-heralded, these days more than ever. I cannot imagine a state of mind where I'd be glad to hear it.

I hate "Don't Stop Believin'" with a deep abiding hatred

"Now woman, I said stay away
American woman, listen what I say"

but if she stays away, how can she hear him?

Always loved the song--even more so, now!

wow, does it really say "I don't need your ghetto scenes" ???

yeah man, we don't need Canadian rockers judging Americans ::turns up "Southern Man"::

I still like Don't Stop Believin', but whatever you guys. Good work on the American Woman and Margaritaville.

(xxpost) It does. Burton Cummings had a real anti-hippie thing (cf. "Hand Me Down World" too)--except when it was convenient to sound like a hippie ("No Sugar Tonight," "Share the Land"). He was all things to all people. He was as shameless and as trashy as it got.

tbh I hate "Southern Man" even more b/c I actually like Neil Young, whereas the Guess Who...well, I guess it's fun to sing "These Eyes" as "These Nuts", I'll give them that.

I wonder how many of the "Worst" songs here will place in the main poll! I don't expect "Margaritaville" will come close, but DSB had a surprising number of defenders here: "Come Sail Away" vs. "More than a Feeling" vs. "Don't Stop Believing"

believe it or not, there are TWO ties in this top ten, and here comes the other one:

6. (tie) Bob Seger – Old Time Rock & Roll
39 points, 7 votes, 1 worst place vote

I voted for Don't Stop Believing in my main list, mainly cause it's truly one of those songs where everyone knows the words (at least the first verse), and listening to the song in a big group is a lot of fun, even if I would mostly switch the station if it came on the radio.

DSB got my one Journey vote. didn't vote for Margaritaville but I like it, probably b/c I left Florida when I was 13

I never submit worst lists, but if I had, "Old Time Rock & Roll" would have been my #1.

I guess the Seger song is overexposed? I don't care about it one way or another, though Risky Business is probably my favorite movie

listening to the song in a big group is a lot, yes. Fun, no.

My mandatory listening thread has totally opened my eyes on Seger, who I previously gave credit only for "Katmandu" and "Night Moves" (which I came to late in life). But "Old Time Rock & Roll" still seems like a real dog to me, just forced as hell and the lyrics really miss out on chances for specificity in favor of hoary old filler lyrics. Which is sorta old time rock and roll but it would have been great if he'd really brought some Berry-like wit and imagination to the lines - "Roll Over Beethoven" rocks harder while being more delightful and believable as the words of a man excited to rock.

"Margaritaville" was absent from my worst ballot because I never think of it as CR--it has more of an oldies station or dentist's office vibe for me--but I'm happy to see it place.

won't go to hear 'em play a tang-o

I've never really understood which rock 'n' roll songs "Old Time Rock & Roll" is supposed to sound like

well, yeah

6. (tie) The Eagles – Hotel California
39 points, 5 votes

each of these songs sounds like it should be blasting out of tinny speakers at a car dealership
to me it's the sound of desperate (sometimes macho) fake fun

i admire "don't stop believin'" for the resolute weirdness of its structure:

intro verse verse verse bridge verse verse bridge solo chorus chorus fadeout

plus it's a pretty great song.

bibbity bup at the hotel california

Don, Glenn, and the Eagles had SEVERAL songs in contention for this list that missed the top 10 btw

my money was on "Witchy Woman," oh well

"Hotel California" just missed worst list for me on strength of its final solo - always kinda stoked to hear those cascading guitars in sync. The rest is a snooze but usually refreshing when heard in a non-Eagles cover that people actually seem to like - I respond to enthusiasm. Is there anybody in the world who still turns on the radio and is hoping to hear the Eagles version of the song? Kinda the ultimate in CR canon wearing out an okay song until it's a detestable ubiquity.

I don't hate Hotel California. Didn't vote for it, but I still like the guitar sound on the solo.

Old Time Rock & Roll is the first of these that was on my worst list and one of two Bob Seeger songs on my worst list.

I know some of y'all love him but he makes me grind my teeth.

Voted life in the fast lane on my worst list, to me the pinnacle of Henley's dumbass cynicism masquerading as trenchant social commentary

margaritaville TOO LOW

"old time rock & roll" woulda been my #1 dog if i had submitted a dogs list. any and all today's-music-ain't-got-the-same-soul complaints, from any era, make me want to gag, but never more so than when they become massive hits in the very era they're complaining about.

also: wtf complaiing about hearing too many tangos in 1978? where was he getting his pop culture information? from 20-year-old chuck berry records?

I voted for "Witchy Woman" as sixth worst, worser than bullshit "American Woman". the opening notes of "Witchy Woman" are enough to get me to smash the radio, and that's before the awful vocals. I think I hate vamps, and, well, the Eagles.

huge kudos to some dude for the thread title, btw. raw, simple and self-explanatory, like boston or the cars.

I voted for Margaritaville at number 8 on my worst list actually, so good job everybody.

margaritaville TOO LOW

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^ this. I used to work in an office where the bosses had Buffett playing on repeat. Heard "Margaritaville" an average of five times a day. It was the company's hold music too, so at least once a day I'd take a call where a customer would excitedly say, "HEY, COOL HOLD MUSIC! ARE YOU A PARROTHEAD?" "No, sir, I am not. How may I help you?"

Ugh. I'll say this for that station, though: the "Rock & Roll Roots" DJ Bob Stroud was someone I listened to a lot as a kid. The first time I heard a lot of Stax, Chicago soul, less-obvious Motown tracks, garage rock, girl groups, and early rock & roll was on his show, and many of those songs I haven't heard on the radio since (almost 40 years).

hometown station completed its 500 and indeed, stairway was #1 and freebird was #2 once again

the most recent song on the list was, at #310, green day's when i come around (1994)

gotta throw the kids a bone

Ugh, these winners are so boring

I could live with tumbling dice

Or combination

No one goes to Classic Rock radio to be surprised

Today, to mix things up, we're gonna put the Led in!

Have Beatles... for lunch!

Let’s redefine classic rock

No one goes to Classic Rock radio to be surprised

au contraire. is the next heart song on twofer tuesday going to be "magic man" or "crazy on you"? no one knows! the anticipation is excruciatingly beautiful as we wait to see if it's going to be a sustained, piercing electric guitar note or some sweet acoustic flatpicking! surprise me, classic rock drive-time dj!

heart rules

It’s “these dreams” btw

heart rules

um, yes! as i believe this very thread decisively established!

They don’t play Dog & Butterfly on the radio enough

I had to do some research on Top 500s a few months ago; if you're interested, here's a cached version of all the yearly Top 500s from '81 to '91 for CKOC, a station out of Hamilton.

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Y0a2BmTRGU4J:https://kaseygraovac.tripod.com/CKOC/CKOCBig500/timeline.html&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca

(At the end of each blurb, there's a "VIEW THE COMPLETE 19__ BIG 500" link you can click on.)

that is awesome

would never have suspected the love for chris de burgh or milli vanilli

complete disregard of skynyrd (which is of course fine)

certainly more inclusive than my hometown radio

Thinking about it now, I shouldn't have put that here. CKOC was an AM Top-40 station, not Classic Rock. (They're all-sports now.) They were competing, in a sense, with Q-107's countdowns--a Toronto station that was Classic Rock--but CKOC wasn't. That '90 chart with Milli Vanilli, New Kids, and Bette Midler makes that pretty clear.

Similarly, here’s the WLS list from 1981 (they continued it until the late ‘80s, iirc), which I remember listening to most of.

https://hercshideaway.blogspot.com/2018/06/the-1981-wls-rock-hall-of-fame.html?m=1

that is a lot of REO

totally support 'roll with the changes' of course

REO and Styx were local boys made good, so they were played an extremely irritating amount on WLS. I haven’t heard Styx’s “Too Much Time On My Hands” since 1981 but I could sing the whole thing from memory.

Cheap Trick also got a lot of airplay — I remember hearing “So Good To See You” — but when their popularity started to wane post-Dream Police, WLS ignored them.

The intro to "Silly Love Songs" takes me right back to rollerskating when I was 11 years old. I can't hate on it.

aw

feel like 'all right now' is the quintessential classic rock song

it's . . . decent? but i can't imagine any possible context in which it might be mentioned other than 'classic rock songs that exist'

It’s the Stanfurd Band fight song, unfortunately

(“unfortunately” b/c it’s a pretty cool song without that association)

REO and Styx were local boys made good, so they were played an extremely irritating amount on WLS.

It's hard to believe such a calamity, Tarfumes.

Hi Infidelity sold 10 million copies, I don't think it was a regional quirk or anything

the following year they split the Layla votes into original Layla and EC unplugged, and both made the top 10, but this ensured Stairway would be first.

god, imagine preferring the MTV Unplugged version

Hi Infidelity sold 10 million copies, I don't think it was a regional quirk or anything

Time for me to Fly gets a lot of play

WLS also played barely-hits like the live version of “Ridin’ The Storm Out” (#97 Billboard), “Time For Me To Fly” (#70; re-release #72), and “Roll With The Changes” (#48) into the ground. I heard them so often that I just assumed they were all much bigger hits. It’s like learning that Rusted Root’s “Send Me On My Way” only hit #72 — then why was it on the radio all the goddamn time?

classic rock hits aren't supposed to be pop hits! "free bird" topped out at #19. "crazy on you" at #35. "runnin' with the devil" at #84. "american girl" didn't chart at all. "stairway to heaven" and "baba o'riley" weren't singles. classic rock radio rolls with the changes, not the charts!

I don’t have much to compare it to, but in addition to the Hi Infidelity singles, WLS also played barely-hits like the live version of “Ridin’ The Storm Out” (#97 Billboard), “Time For Me To Fly” (#70; re-release #72), and “Roll With The Changes” (#48) into the ground. I heard them so often that I just assumed they were all much bigger hits.

huh yeah me too, these have been staples on minneapolis's kqrs for years too

feel like 'all right now' is the quintessential classic rock song

it's . . . decent? but i can't imagine any possible context in which it might be mentioned other than 'classic rock songs that exist'

With an eye toward the exits, I'll mention a context where I think it's great: cutting away from Annette Bening screaming in the much-beloved American Beauty.

“feel like 'all right now' is the quintessential classic rock song”
I think you mean Highway to Hell

i think u mean FREEBIRD

also imo Alright Now is good for 30 seconds to a minute or so when it starts up and then it’s super boring

like it wears out its welcome for me very quickly

wow, Paul Kossoff is great. never tire of All Right Now, especially live versions. and Angus gets a fair bit from him.

also imo Alright Now is good for 30 seconds to a minute or so when it starts up and then it’s super boring

Truthfully, I feel this way about 30 to 40% of classic rock warhorses. After 90 seconds I'm flipping the radio dial.

...and there's another 10 to 15% that I don't even give that long anymore.

yeah, delete my "wow," get it just am always there for that guitar

quality wise it's in the top 100 or 500 or maybe more but i do think "all right now" does feel like a very middle of a venn diagram classic rock song

Dug up my ballot from e-mail. 1) I can't believe I turned in a ballot of 100 songs--my ballots are almost always half the limit allowed at best. 2) "All Right Now" wasn't one of my 100, which surprised me a little.

I don't listen to classic rock radio much, and I don't think they play "All Right Now" all that often, but that would be infinitely preferable to another helping of Guns N Roses.

classic rock hits aren't supposed to be pop hits! "free bird" topped out at #19. "crazy on you" at #35. "runnin' with the devil" at #84. "american girl" didn't chart at all. "stairway to heaven" and "baba o'riley" weren't singles. classic rock radio rolls with the changes, not the charts!

That’s just it: WLS was a top 40 station, not a “classic rock” station (which also accounts for the fact that it took until 1986 or ‘87 for “Stairway” to top its annual Top 500 list). I never heard “Baba O’Riley” on WLS, not even during the Who-saturated autumn of 1982, during their “Farewell” tour.

“Farewell (and good riddance)”

I was just reminiscing with one of my kids about AOR in the 70s. Denver had two very good stations, KBPI and KAZY. They had actual local DJs who had, or seemed to have, a fair amount of control over or at least input on what got played. Sure, you'd hear "All Right Now," but you'd also get "Silver, Blue & Gold" or "Wishing Well" or even an entire side of Burning Sky. Also, they took actual requests.

We were laughing about this because of the state of "classic rock" radio now. The stations are all standardized, even the names. In Atlanta, and half a dozen other places, it's "The River." In Denver, it's "The Mountain." Who even listens to these now?

In Portland, Maine, their “classic rock” station is “The Blimp.” I asked a friend who lives there, “So, do they play Captain Beef-“ “YES! ALL THE FUCKING TIME! THEY JUST PLAY THE ‘THE BLIMP! THE BLIMP!’ PART BUT NEVER AN ACTUAL BEEFHEART SONG!”