Travi$ Scott - Days Before Rodeo - best rap release of 2014 so far?

And it's free? Skyfall,Quintana2, title track, mamacita, in fact all of them are blowing me away right now.

i dunno, sounds like a lot of other artists when he's not just letting guests steal the songs directly. has he ever spit a great verse or displayed any kind of discernible personality at all?

Hilarious thread title

I haven't seen one person articulate for me what he's doing that is worthy of the enthusiasm

Yeah this is going to be hilariously overlooked by people like this. The sound on this release is completely new and progressive to anything I've seen before. Looking for "a great verse"? Ha.

The sound on this release is completely new and progressive to anything I've seen before.

have you heard anything kanye west or kid cudi has released in the last 5 years?

"Hilarious thread title" - go on then, give me a better rap album this year?

"Haven't seen one person articulate for me what he's doing that is worthy of the enthusiasm" - ?? Is that how you assess music, other people's opinions? How about listen to it yourself then come back with your own?

"have you heard anything kanye west or kid cudi has released in the last 5 years?"

Have you missed that Travis was a major influence on Kanye's recent releases? Travis mark all over his last album, from raps to production.

Kid Cudi, lol.

Have you missed that Travis was a major influence on Kanye's recent releases? Travis mark all over his last album, from raps to production.

― Raccoon Tanuki, Wednesday, August 27, 2014 6:58 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

he didn't appear on MBDTF which is the album travis scott most blatantly rips off in his music

and kid cudi too

i feel like the least compelling argument in travis scott's favor is that his sound is "new" and "progressive" when he's just cannibalizing five years of GOOD music albums.

i guess you could make the argument that he imitates them well but i'm personally not very sympathetic to that argument

Sloppy Toppy may be the song of the century

but this Skyfall is ..... lush

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chifuZQVwJs

The vocals are unheard of before, and completely on the crest of the new southern wave right. Possibly ahead of it. His influence are so full, from DJ Screw, Rap A Lot, to Kanye, to Atlanta trap, to weeded out west coast bounce. Really I'm blown away after so long being done with Hip Hop.

The thing that excites me about T.S is his range of artistry is way ahead of most rap acts today. Guy can produce, rap, sing, and does incredible videos. And it all feels ahead of its time.

Lol

Yung Should Stick To Producing

guys it's kinda cool that Travi$ Scott posts here, don't be so mean to him

At least we know he's great at hyperbole.

Is this some street team shit?

is this guy better than big k.r.i.t.?

Seems alright. Auto tune sounds hella sloppy on this. this sounds like Kid Cudi its true.

I liked "Bad Mood Shit on You" from the Owl Pharoah thing, that was cool

"Upper Echelon" worked for me too

Street team is turning me off instead of turning me on.

I haven't heard this yet but based on the thread I'm going to assume that the terrible spoken-word interlude in that horrifying new Taylor Swift song is better

Funny to me that no one here yet knows that T.S was the muse and influence for the sound of Yeezus album. Thought it was common naledge around music nerds?

album was inspired by le corbusier lamps iirc

i keep accidentally thinking "T.S." means taylor swift and nodding approvingly while i stroke my chin

Must be the reason I don't like Yeezus then.

TBH an album full of GOOD Music retreads sounds more appealing to me than another DJ Mustard cut

Chris Richards in Washington Post liked Travis Scott at a fest live sorta:

The line-up wasn’t as starry as your typical Yardfest, but this year’s Trillectro did a better job of capturing contemporary hip-hop’s riotous spirit. And it culminated with a surprise performance from Travis Scott, an irrepressible Houston rapper who obliterated the demarcation line between artist and audience, inviting front-row fans to leap over the barricades while flinging his body out toward the masses.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/music/trillectro-music-festival-proves-it-can-keep-up-with-the-big-boys/2014/08/24/59f9b4f8-2bb6-11e4-9b98-848790384093_story.html

Guess nothing changes with Houston hip hop, years and years of brilliance ignored and unknown and looked down on by the white hipsters who make up this board and most of hip hop fanship. Still crazy to me that during mid 90s the somehow that dross coming from stale NY hip hop was seen as better than what was happening in the South.

didn't get a sense of him as a captivating live performer when he stared at his shoes and mumbled through the BET Awards cypher:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRYZgeSRR2w

When I first heard of this, I honestly though it was bold to pick a title that sounded like Brad Paisley record. Then realized it was more about shopping.

x-post---I dunno...Here's Jon Caramanica in the NY Times:

There was the rapper Travis Scott, wiry and pulsing with energy,

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/30/arts/music/a-producer-and-his-pulsating-rhythmic-ways.html

haha "A Producer and His Pulsating, Rhythmic Ways" may be one of the worst headlines ever written

But for a general NY Times audience it is probably fine

White hipsters such as myself, DJP, Murgatroid, and Dayo.

Houston hiphop historically very maligned on this board.

now im convinced raccoon tanuki is a sock

eh feel bad about saying anything, should have let this ride out

loved his drumming in blink 182

Also his song "Make It Rain"

and his film where they look for the holy grail. "she's a witch!"

Tanuki had worthwhile posts in the Outkast poll and some other threads, not gonna write him off cause of this thread

in all seriousness i have been trying to put together some kind of generous argument for travis scott as an artist just so i could enjoy thinking about his music instead of writing it off as a middling grayscale soup of contemporary ATL influences

best i can come up w/ is some kind of anti-rockist / anti-authenticity thing, like we're in an environment absent A&Rs so maybe people who can package and ~curate~ other ppl's ideas is the future

i do think if he was white he'd be given way more leeway, obv, in the "progressive" department—people who do white forms of black music seen as an 'evolution' of the sound off rip but ... that's bullshit whether it's led zeppelin or travis scott, right? Right? idk.

i dont like any of his songs, though, like his sound isn't radical enough—at least I 'got' The Weeknd even if I thought making a coherent hypermasculine R&B form was pretty retrograde and not worth selling, at least it was marketing a fresh sound, but this still feels like a soupy version of already-popular southern rap

and he's also not writing great pop songs, these are all faux-dramatic dirges ... not a new sound, not great pop, not original, what am i missing?

(not that he's even responsible for his own sound but im saying)

FKi's beat for "sloppy toppy" is pretty cool

could give this more leeway if it was diddy. he doesn't have diddy's personality, though

Yeah this is one of those artists who does everything pretty well, but not one single thing well enough for me to care or find it interesting.

hilarious thread.

album was inspired by le corbusier lamps iirc

ha !

a middling grayscale soup of contemporary ATL influences

yep.

NEXT.

That Migos is so good

http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/travis-scott-is-worse-than-iggy-azalea-1682870003?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_facebook&utm_source=deadspin_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

haha just came here to post this

tbh Noz should have written this a year ago (and kind of did on twitter) but at least someone put it together

That is one misleading headline there.

is it? I think it's pretty appropriate considering his argument

& the arguments everyone has been having about 'appropriation'

Sure, the headline works once the reader connects the dots and yes, we technically SHOULD be doing that when reading anything but otoh, there's gotta be a more appropriate headline considering he mentions Iggy once and briefly at that but I guess he's gotta chase the clicks

ppl say 'gotta chase the clicks' like it's a new thing & folks haven't been complaining about headlines forever

If I change "clicks" to, I dunno, "eyeballs", it doesn't change a thing about what I said.

idk i think he's a talented producer. his vocal work always verges on the boundary between biting/originality that creates a really alienating level of animosity for some people

i'm cool with travis

'boundary'

and you must mean 'talented co-producer'

Mike Dean being down w Kanye & this guy & J. Prince being down w Drake is so weird

v good article

it's a stretch to call scott's ripoff-o-rama "offensive," but it's definitely lame. in a vacuum, it's pretty laughable given the obviousness of his antecedents that any label would try and tout him as some kinda gamechanger, but that's where shit has fallen to I spose

I will say "upper echelon" is a pretty good song but mostly for the beat and its guest verses (esp. the T.I. one)

actually who the fuck am I kidding thinking that a label wouldn't in the past have pushed a third-rate cudi/drake/kanye clone (replace with any past equivalent), lol

so he's the Candlebox of rap

exactly!

lol

rodeo is an incredibly mediocre album, not that that's surprising, although it's not quite the complete garbage fire I expected

I like "Antidote"

I have a visceral reaction against his flow on that track

yeah his rapping is miserable in a Wiz Khalifa, grin and bear it sort of way. But I like the hook a lot

antidote is a good hook

i might not mind how much the hook is a "no type"/"drinks on us" bite if he didn't go so far as to reference "no type" on a verse

idk man keeping ur guard up even for dumb hooks seems a p equal gift/curse split at the end of the day

if i knew what a "night show" was referring to i'd probably dismiss antidote w/o qualms too but instead i mildly enjoy the innocent suggestion of 1950s drive ins and planetaria and whatnot

lol i have 'white iverson' in the enjoyably abysmal category too tho so never mind me

all the "night show" talk just makes me wonder if he's also doing rap concert matinees on his tour

antidote is such a nothing blah hook imo, not feeling it all

Looking for "a great verse"? Ha.

the new wiz song is such a hilariously blatant "antidote" rip off https://soundcloud.com/wizkhalifa/bake-sale-ft-travis-scott

don't you open up that bake sale

Lex Luger is the third of five credited producers on that, sad

theres some stuff on sings mcnight or w/e that i dont mind

ive heard good things about "goosebumps"

"pick up the phone" is prob my fav song of the year but i don't consider it a travis scott song really

hmm goosebumps sounds pretty shitty... what are the decent ones j crunch

i just listened to sdp interlude and first take (lol) which weren't bad... i guess maybe this is like views where this is pretty decent if you delete all the songs that aren't r&b

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP93Mo7GpS8

prefer the uk version ~ and i don't even knooow why ~

'Pick up the phone' recently coalesced for me as song of the year, too. closest thing to the 'yrn' beat he's been on since?

yrn really up there with faust arp and caucasiti (demo) huh

dont like pick up the phone really

idk thought way back, biebs, coordinate & the wkend song all sounded p good

xp- can u translate

https://twitter.com/Scott_CEOofSUH/status/787753792347385857

This funny thread...

more hip-hop albums should sample Gentle Giant is what I'm getting from this

trevor jackson tweeted that the opening track lists andy votel as part of the credits for the opening track.
that's a swerve i'd never expect.

yeah wow this starts right off with that gentle giant sample haha