https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roB4hRdLlas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_aMZsXIINM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Bz9DfmOauM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EagCKe2Au8E
Nick Cave meets Gun Club = good.
― nostormo, Thursday, 25 September 2014 15:59 (nine years ago) link
top 5 of the year for me. it vaguely sounds like The Gun Club but this band is very modern sounding in my opinion.
― hackshaw, Thursday, 25 September 2014 19:15 (nine years ago) link
All of this is great! I loved You're Nothing - it was my favorite album last year - but this is even more dynamic.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Sunday, 28 September 2014 08:12 (nine years ago) link
uh oh theyre writing songs now instead of a bunch o goddamn noise
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 28 September 2014 09:06 (nine years ago) link
And are they done flirting with fascist and racist imagery and stuff? Most of the articles about that are from 2011 to 2013.
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 28 September 2014 13:23 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, now they are plowing into the field of love (sowing the seeds of love)
― nostormo, Sunday, 28 September 2014 14:45 (nine years ago) link
and were p much exclusively referencing things from 2010 or earlier xp
― well-behaved wingmen really hate Mystery (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 28 September 2014 16:39 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, they kinda stopped during the racist/fascist thing when the sorta racists/fascists stopped being in power in Denmark. It's almost as if they were commenting on what was going on in their own country, rather than 'flirting' with stuff.
― Frederik B, Sunday, 28 September 2014 17:02 (nine years ago) link
Not that I'm going to have this idiotic debate again.
Wow these new songs are amazing. I've always liked/respected this band from a distance and have seen them live but this seems like a major/super shift. Just got tix for one of their North American dates. Kind of wondering what their fanbase response to this new one will be.
― Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Sunday, 28 September 2014 17:53 (nine years ago) link
I like the concept but I find none of the songs outstanding (yet?!)
― nostormo, Sunday, 28 September 2014 19:48 (nine years ago) link
this has grown to be one of THOSE albums for me after listening to it constantly this week. "Glassy Eyed, Dormant and Veiled" hits hard
― hackshaw, Sunday, 28 September 2014 23:29 (nine years ago) link
I like this record quite a bit. Not surprisingly, most of my friends who were diehard supporters of New Brigade hated it. Same thing with Lower though; hardcore dudes don't take kindly to genre hopping. Wife said Elias' vocal delivery reminded her of Thom Yorke circa Pablo Honey- thought that was an interesting interpretation.
― Tomás Piñon (Ryan), Monday, 29 September 2014 21:31 (nine years ago) link
I almost passed on tickets to see them in Philly until I saw they were touring with Helm. Should be an amazing show
― You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 00:35 (nine years ago) link
I saw them in Philly twice, the first time at the Church and the last time at West Philly basement. Good times.
I am hoping to see them at the Church again next month.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 14:05 (nine years ago) link
Even Grantland is writing about the new one. It summarizes:
Along with Cymbals Eat Guitars, Iceage has joined the rarefied company of Titus Andronicus and Japandroids as bands playing expansive, big-eyed rock and roll without embarrassment or self-effacement. Hopefully, it will soon have more company, even if we’re well past the point where there’s any real mainstream for it to break into.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Thursday, 2 October 2014 09:11 (nine years ago) link
he has certainly turned his bellowing in a different direction, to good and interesting effect
― j., Thursday, 2 October 2014 22:38 (nine years ago) link
a lot of divisive opinions on this thing right now but i do totally agree with "Iceage now looks like our best bet for a truly great rock band"
― hackshaw, Thursday, 2 October 2014 23:05 (nine years ago) link
Iceage has joined the rarefied company of Titus Andronicus and Japandroids
ok i'm out
― am0n, Friday, 3 October 2014 17:33 (nine years ago) link
I don't like Cymbals Eat Guitars, Titus or Japandroids but I love what I've heard of this album.
― Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Friday, 3 October 2014 18:25 (nine years ago) link
def planning to see em again either in Philly or NY next weekend once i figure myself out
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 October 2014 19:12 (nine years ago) link
If you go to the Philly show, lemmy know. I am probably going as well.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Friday, 3 October 2014 19:36 (nine years ago) link
I sorta can hear the Titus comparison but only if say, Nick Cave was singing with them
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 4 October 2014 02:23 (nine years ago) link
On My Fingers is my current favorite. They inject so much emotion into this song..
― nostormo, Monday, 6 October 2014 12:02 (nine years ago) link
I'm not quite as wowed as I hoped I would be. The vocals can get a bit trying to me after a bit. Will try to give it a few more listens.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 6 October 2014 13:33 (nine years ago) link
I felt like you but it's a grower
― nostormo, Monday, 6 October 2014 13:43 (nine years ago) link
Same here re: the Philly show
― You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 01:48 (nine years ago) link
"Iceage has joined the rarified company of bands that aren't as good as Iceage"
― u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 01:59 (nine years ago) link
yeah, they share absolutely nothing in common with those bands other than being in the same era. and they blow them out of the water ten fold
― hackshaw, Tuesday, 7 October 2014 05:15 (nine years ago) link
my never really planned Philly trip is off, might go to the NY show Sunday if there are still tix
― this horrible, rotten slog to rigor mortis (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 9 October 2014 19:00 (nine years ago) link
as of now there appear to be, and there's also a show on Monday at a smaller venue in Brooklyn, the Acheron
― anonanon, Thursday, 9 October 2014 19:52 (nine years ago) link
Is anyone going to the Philly show? I got my tix already so I am definitely going...
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Thursday, 9 October 2014 20:01 (nine years ago) link
well Monday is a work night, and smaller venues in Brooklyn are not comfy for the aged
― this horrible, rotten slog to rigor mortis (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 9 October 2014 20:10 (nine years ago) link
their "country" song on this is hella The Fall
― u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 9 October 2014 20:34 (nine years ago) link
I'll be at the Philly show
― You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Thursday, 9 October 2014 21:12 (nine years ago) link
...and I guess I already said that
― You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Thursday, 9 October 2014 21:13 (nine years ago) link
Email me your cell if you wanna say hi. I'll be hitting the beer store down the block for libations if you imbibe.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Friday, 10 October 2014 07:19 (nine years ago) link
Had a great time at Iceage this evening, the second time I have seen them at the Church.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10436172_10154715524145597_6517058711707937249_n.jpg?oh=8b8d8e0db967d2e19788873d91603b61&oe=54AB21C7&__gda__=1421572242_0a9866b7091e84996df347755c6a968f
The band played only songs form the new album!
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10641075_10154715524845597_5655222881131985831_n.jpg?oh=3affac2ebd4eb5a0462a3477fa336d51&oe=54C6D75C&__gda__=1421080394_71750bfa571af4426bd59fb626da436d
As someone who loved You're Nothing that was kind of a bummer but I loved the new material - so Birthday Party - and the singer, while emotive, was not in shambles like he has been in previous shows where I caught the band. I have an hour commute to work tomorrow and will be bringing the new disc which I purchased at the show. Looking forward to it.
Also, I did indeed get to meet ILXor Telephone thing.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10435032_10154716014980597_3425095960672607320_n.jpg?oh=9e43b85b3fda70a0f4b5f7622ba3f930&oe=54C1C601&__gda__=1422574615_6e0296f03cb71e9affff4632843db668
Really nice kid, it was a pleasure to talk music and life with him.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Saturday, 11 October 2014 05:07 (nine years ago) link
Sounds fun! Hope they come here
― u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 11 October 2014 13:56 (nine years ago) link
Such a short setlst?How long was the show?
― nostormo, Saturday, 11 October 2014 16:28 (nine years ago) link
it's a short album
― j., Saturday, 11 October 2014 16:59 (nine years ago) link
Oh noooooooo this record is baaaaaaad and yet they're still so cuuuuuuuute
This is gonna be like one of those Fucked Up moments where they clean up their sound and I'm like "fuck this" and everybody else is like "finally!"
― fgti, Saturday, 11 October 2014 17:12 (nine years ago) link
what's wrong with it? it sounds good to me. they seem like a very musical little band of performers, very well in tune with each other.
― j., Saturday, 11 October 2014 17:21 (nine years ago) link
Really? Drums mixed out and vocals lazy and mixed hot and the performance slow as shit, it sounds like Libertines. I'm gonna watch the videos with Vår playing instead
― fgti, Saturday, 11 October 2014 17:26 (nine years ago) link
Really liking this record but yeah the Libertines vocal thing is something you have to make yourself not hear.
― Eyeball Kicks, Saturday, 11 October 2014 19:49 (nine years ago) link
thus live the vocals are drowned out and you can still look at Elias
― this horrible, rotten slog to rigor mortis (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 11 October 2014 20:52 (nine years ago) link
i've never heard the libertines, i guess i am what the kids call ~~blessed~~
― j., Saturday, 11 October 2014 20:56 (nine years ago) link
That vocal sound is just a young guy who cannot really sing trying to sound maniacal and decadent. It's forgivable. I have old demos from my first band that would sound like the singer was influenced by Pete Doherty except they were recorded in 1991.
― Eyeball Kicks, Saturday, 11 October 2014 22:12 (nine years ago) link
So you don't like Nick Cave's voice-Birthday Party era as well?
― nostormo, Saturday, 11 October 2014 22:24 (nine years ago) link
I like Boys Next Door and the Mutiny EP. Mostly I just really like the first two Iceage records tbh.
― fgti, Saturday, 11 October 2014 22:29 (nine years ago) link
Birthday Party Nick Cave was channelling something original and exceptional - easy to say with 30 years' hindsight obviously - but yeah you have to forgive the vocals a little bit on those records still. Iceage guy is fine - his throat is young and our ears are old.
― Eyeball Kicks, Saturday, 11 October 2014 22:39 (nine years ago) link
I like it and I'm old.Even though the lack of originality.
― nostormo, Saturday, 11 October 2014 22:41 (nine years ago) link
I like it and I'm old too.
― Eyeball Kicks, Saturday, 11 October 2014 22:43 (nine years ago) link
Also, it's refreshing compared to most indie singers, who sound too soft sometimes imo
― nostormo, Saturday, 11 October 2014 22:44 (nine years ago) link
Maybe we like him BECAUSE we are old..
― nostormo, Saturday, 11 October 2014 22:49 (nine years ago) link
Well you always have to check yourself. You just like things in different ways at different times. "Even though the lack of originality" is a filter that once didn't apply.
― Eyeball Kicks, Saturday, 11 October 2014 22:55 (nine years ago) link
usually it doesn't apply to me toobut this one is an exception.
i think it's because of the sincerity, the erupted emotions and the good songwriting here.
i really don't like most BP imitators,( or imitators at all ). Except Iceage and Scratch Acid probably.
― nostormo, Saturday, 11 October 2014 23:04 (nine years ago) link
*lack of originality*
sigh. i'd really appreciate it if music critics (especially older ones) would just take a great piece of work as it is. they sound like themselves and it sounds modern to my ears
it's hard to be a guitar band and genuinely shock someone these days i guess
― hackshaw, Saturday, 11 October 2014 23:32 (nine years ago) link
case in point here where a critic compares them to Wire and is struggling to not to be impressed:
http://www.popmatters.com/review/186590-iceage-plowing-into-the-field-of-love/
they don't fucking sound like Wire, not in the least.
― hackshaw, Saturday, 11 October 2014 23:48 (nine years ago) link
i will have to listen to this again, but i wasn't hugely impressed. i haven't listened to their other albums. his voice reminds me a lot of nick cave, which should be promising but somehow wasn't
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 11 October 2014 23:53 (nine years ago) link
My perennial and v personal ish is when an artist cleans up their sound or tightens up their band, there's a loss of potential energy. You don't want to see the sound fully dressed or it spoils the fun. I'll give this another listen when I've had time to put my baggage away
― fgti, Sunday, 12 October 2014 00:38 (nine years ago) link
i agree with Iggy Pop: at long last - a (post) punk band that sounds dangerous
― nostormo, Sunday, 12 October 2014 00:59 (nine years ago) link
My perennial and v personal ish is when an artist cleans up their sound or tightens up their band, there's a loss of potential energy. You don't want to see the sound fully dressed or it spoils the fun.
I find I have the same reaction, but I don't think I've ever been able to phrase it so well. And I'm a little worried about this album going by what I've heard so far.
― sink floyd (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 12 October 2014 01:26 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, except that they didn't clean their sound or tighten it up (as a matter of fact they sound even looser now).It's more about change in style.
― nostormo, Sunday, 12 October 2014 02:24 (nine years ago) link
Vox up drums down constitutes a sonic clean-up to my ears but maybe that's just me
― fgti, Sunday, 12 October 2014 02:55 (nine years ago) link
this record is really bad imo but i don't like nick cave or gun club so
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 12 October 2014 04:42 (nine years ago) link
It's complicated for me. I like Gun Club but don't much like Nick Cave. I AM also old. I like the record.This is some top level discussion going on here.
― Hinklepicker, Sunday, 12 October 2014 07:22 (nine years ago) link
Deep inside, you ALL like this record. You just don't know it yet.
― nostormo, Sunday, 12 October 2014 09:21 (nine years ago) link
― Eyeball Kicks, Saturday, October 11, 2014 7:49 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
when I saw them the other week, having heard the album earlier in the day and been amused that this band were doing songs that kind of sounded like the Pogues, I had a bit of a moment of clarity wrt this. wasn't the vocals so much as the general demeanour. being surrounded by a bunch of super drunk crowdsurfing doofuses in east London probably didn't help. the album is good though, more successful at what it appears to be trying to do than You're Nothing imo
― well-behaved wingmen really hate Mystery (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 12 October 2014 11:01 (nine years ago) link
Are the lyrics included in the physical release of this?
― definite classic, predicting a solid 8/10 from the p-fork boys (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 12 October 2014 13:31 (nine years ago) link
I'm old, and all the bands I've seen mentioned in this thread - Japandroids, Cymbals Eat Guitars, Cloud Nothings, Titus Andronicus - makes me think this album is yet another energetic indie-rock band with loud guitars and yelly singers. I'll get in around to it soon, but first I'll type No Age and Fucked Up, just because.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 12 October 2014 13:44 (nine years ago) link
they sound nothing like those bands.
― nostormo, Sunday, 12 October 2014 14:26 (nine years ago) link
yeah maaaybe titus andronicus, but with a different lineage, different aspects of drunken belligerence (pugilisticness, more like, for titus), glowering masculinity, etc. rather happily, when i hear their records, i don't think, 'indie rock'. titus, i do a tiny little bit, there's something weedy about them.
― j., Sunday, 12 October 2014 14:55 (nine years ago) link
whereas japandroids' whole sound is kind of built around adolescent yelping, i-wanna-touch-a-girl's-boob yearning
― j., Sunday, 12 October 2014 14:56 (nine years ago) link
I mentioned Fucked Up only because their sound changed in all the same ways, Epics : New Brigade :: Chemistry : Plowing
― fgti, Sunday, 12 October 2014 16:01 (nine years ago) link
I'm always intrigued when bands sound nothing like the bands they are compared to. Like when Arcade Fire debuted, and people kept comparing them to Talking Heads.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 12 October 2014 16:15 (nine years ago) link
I hadn't heard Iceage before the new album (and so am not troubled by if it's better or not than the previous albums) but am finding it a very addictive album, difficult to tear myself away from it.
Vocals wise it's perhaps a bit unfortunate they chose The Lord's Favorite as the single/video, because that one really is the only song on here where he sounds like Pete Doherty. Mostly because it's the only song on here that sounds like a Libertines song. It's 'the odd one out' really, and not representative at all for this album, in terms of atmosphere.
― definite classic, predicting a solid 8/10 from the p-fork boys (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 12 October 2014 16:19 (nine years ago) link
Huh, this album sounds nothing like I expected. That is, I did not expect it to sound like an indie-rock Nick Cave (despite the above), but it does. Which is not a bad thing. Or, I dunno, Crime and the City Solution or something in that mode.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 12 October 2014 16:23 (nine years ago) link
i've heard someone compare this to "Public Strain" by Women, not in sound at all, but just in a band creating a similar frenzy in an otherwise boring time for guitar rock.
i can agree with that even though it took Women a few years to become a cult favorite
― hackshaw, Sunday, 12 October 2014 17:38 (nine years ago) link
I don't even hear this as guitar rock, really.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 12 October 2014 19:06 (nine years ago) link
Arthur Lee orchestrating a hardcore band?
"Mariachi Punk"
― hackshaw, Sunday, 12 October 2014 19:14 (nine years ago) link
Good shout. They've mentioned Forever Changes a lot in interviews.
― Eyeball Kicks, Sunday, 12 October 2014 20:31 (nine years ago) link
AOtY
― nostormo, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 21:08 (nine years ago) link
Quite possible, nostormo, along with Amen Dunes "Love" lp.
― kwhitehead, Wednesday, 22 October 2014 17:45 (nine years ago) link
that amen dunes is tite
― u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 22 October 2014 18:13 (nine years ago) link
I tried listening to this again today. It's probably my fourth attempt since it came out. So many people I know whose taste (for the most part) aligns with my own, love this album. I can't even make it to the halfway point. Iceage leaves me cold.
― Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Thursday, 1 January 2015 00:54 (nine years ago) link
I loved their first EP and album, took a long time to get into the second one; I'm trying to hold off on judgement until I've given this one a while to sink in. I'm actually bothered by the vocals for the first time; they just sound too crude with music that's more developed and well produced to me.
― blindest of willies (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 1 January 2015 05:00 (nine years ago) link
Saw Elias's "side project" Marching Church performing live this weekend, great concert and I was stunned at Elias's charisma - reminded me of Nick Cave.
― niels, Monday, 18 May 2015 08:41 (eight years ago) link