They Will Not Go Quietly: The Official ILM Track-By-Track DON 'n' GLENN Listening Thread

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Well, yeah.

Let's do this!

I've decided to alternate Don 'n' Glenn songs, although, of course, Don will dominate – in ILM as in art and love.

first up!

"I Found Somebody"

http://www.glennfreyonline.com/images/GFrey1982Concert01.jpg

http://youtu.be/qUw8GjHRxzE

video looks like a failed attempt to do a West Coast version of "Cheers"

is Glenn slightly ripping off "Tumbling Dice" for the verse melody?

generally speaking, early solo Glenn is far more "trad" than early Don---more meat-n-potatoes rock 'n' roll, honking saxes, big choruses. Don seems slightly artier by comparison

Thought this was a thread for dandy don wiener and glenn mcdonald.

"Barbara Alsieux
1 month ago

Excellent video; I was a former successful booking licensed in NJ agent for 25 years.
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jill pusateri
4 months ago

He was so hot back then! Had a huge crush on him. Loved his music too!!"

Glenn looks like Scott Bakula in that pic. Worst episode of Quantum Leap ever.

It IS true that this phase is when he looked best.

http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/fa/b3/67/fab3678b90ae1ea1476ed9e3a5d715be.jpg

He insists so hard that he FOUND SOMEBODY. TO LOVE. that it must be because no one will ever believe Roach was capable of it. A dumb song, lacking even the competence of an Eagles album track. Cowritten with Jack Tempchin, the song hit #31.

"I Found Somebody": Yup, he's cribbing some "Tumbling Dice", which is a good thing. BUT other than that, this is Frey at his most generic. They (Don & Glenn) don't <do> sincerity well. More thought went into staging the video than making the song, which, if I'm true to my Stockholm Syndrome, is a pleasant enough trifle. The video, of course, makes this worthwhile: the first of several narrative vids showing off Mr. Frey's 'acting' chops, and prime examples of '80s cheese no one has thought about reviving. Remember Let's talk about the non- pop culture pop culture enjoyed by Real Amurricans in the '70s. ? Welcome to the '80s version.

When they try to be "merely" serviceable they're fourth-rate and awful.

I wonder how people who were Jonesin' for some post-breakup Eagles action reacted when Glenn dropped this as his opening solo salvo?

no fun aloud, bitch!

Tomorrow: a touching duet with the talented Stevie Nicks.

A lot of touching there, iirc.

how did Don explain the relationship to Glenn?

I wonder how people who were Jonesin' for some post-breakup Eagles action reacted when Glenn dropped this as his opening solo salvo?

it's as if Azoff plotted a "Lennon/McCartney" breakup template, with Glenn getting the domestic odes and Don the "angry" "political" record

The arrangement is very much "What if we slowed down the groove of 'The Long Run' just a smidge, made the rhythm guitar stupidly simple instead of Stax-y, and took away the great slide work of Felder and Walsh?"

"Leather and Lace (w/Stevie Nicks)"

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http://youtu.be/Ew4pMpzC5B8

originally written for Waylon Jennings and Jessi Colter, with Henley awkwardly cast in the role of the tough leather-wearing hombre with a sensitive side.

Forgot how minimalist this is: just guitar and keyboard, two verses/two refrains and out. Nicks dominates the closing refrain's harmony, to the point where Don seems to be drowned out in the mix at points. Fitting, as she's a much bigger star than he is in '81.

I'm as big a Nicks fan as you'll find on ILM (consult the archives) but this spongy kitsch is too much for me -- and Henley admitting he's scared and sometimes cries is too big a leap of faith for me.

― look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, December 7, 2010

and ugh that electric piano

yeah, it's not great. Feels padded, esp. with the repeat of the end of each verse. Makes her Petty duet seem like Marvin Gaye/Tami Terrell by comparison

I like this song better than I should, because Stevie really elevates it - Don's presence doesn't bother me overmuch. Would like to hear it as a Nicks - Buckingham duet tbh.

for me this was a "You had to be there" type of song

I've always hated this song. And I am mad at this thread for making we walk around caterwauling Axl's vox on "I Will Not Go Quietly."

"Leather and Lace": This is one of those radio staples I just somehow missed--pretty sure I didn't actually hear it until about 6 years ago. What stands out for me is how sonically Jessie & Waylon this is, what with the blend of acoustics, electric piano, and so subtle you'd think they weren't even there drums (just snare rim & kick)--just erase Stevie & Don and it's ready for their vocals. Remember too that Waylon covered "Gold Dust Woman" AND "Take It To The Limit". As is, it's definitely the third best Belladonna single.

DON: It was a wonderful experience to launch both Stevie's and my own solo career with "Leather and Lace". Given our history, and how it seemed like nothing was working right in our then-present lives, it was quite cathartic for us to get together and sing a song those unique problems we were facing.

GLENN: What I don't get is how I never got a chance with Stevie: She and Don had a thing, and she had JD [Souther] and Joe [Walsh]...I mean, Jow FUCKING Walsh but not "The Teen King" himself? Leather? Lace? I was down for whatever. It's not like she didn't know where to find me or anything.

DON: [snickering] Well, yeah.

wait she was with JD

From the Stevie/Courtney Love interview:

SN: Yeah. So I started going out with him. And this is not popular. Sure, Lindsey and I are totally broken up, I have every right in the world to go out with people, but...I spend most of my time with the band, and it’s not real conducive to having a relationship. So, I went out with Don for awhile. I went out with [Eagles songwriter] J.D. Souther for awhile. We had an incredible time.

now I'm wondering if JD went to bed with Geffen because why not

http://images.wolfgangsvault.com/cvfeatures/JD_Souther_130304.jpg

"I fucked 'em all..."

The start of this thread coincided with the onset of norovirus infection (or some similar gastrointestinal horror) in Jeff and me. Coincidence???????? Or do Don Henley and Glen Frey make us want to barf?

Anyway, I forgot I Found Somebody existed, and thought I'd never heard it, until the "and she loves me in the midnight hour!" line and then I remembered it. I seem to recall this being one of those songs that was always on the radio, whether you liked it or not.

I always liked Leather and Lace, but now I can't listen to DH's part without cringing.

I used to hate Leather & Lace but the melody just captivates me so much now i find it kind of undeniable? i am embarrassed to say that I really love it!!!

leather and lace is a terrible song that i will always be happy to hear

it needs you to love it
it needs you today

"The One You Love"

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http://youtu.be/qmV9vk2950o

"Remember how much people liked 'I Can't Tell You Why?' I know I'm no Tim Schmidt, but can we get one like that on here?"

Random thoughts:

- This song is easily 20% slower than I remembered it being. "Plodding" would be generous.
- Love how the video cuts at 1:00 from "Glen's eyebrows have ALL THE FEELS" to "ASS SHOT!!!"
- This song was a lot better done as Prince's "The Beautiful Ones." Here the sentiment is just repugnant.

"Remember how much people liked 'I Can't Tell You Why?' I know I'm no Tim Schmidt, but can we get one like that on here?"

lol otm

No one can pop a collar in the snow like Glenn. NO ONE.

- This song is easily 20% slower than I remembered it being. "Plodding" would be generous.

good lord yes. This is "mixer at the senior center" speed.

the "I Can't Tell You Why" comparisons are OTM, to the point where I wonder if Glenn/Tempchin originally wrote it with Schmidt in mind (Glenn can't quite hit the high notes: see the strained "your mind" at 1:41)

"Lady In Red" seems its natural successor, though to be fair "Careless Whisper" seems to take a bit from it too

Oh ugh oh man I hate this song. I hated it when it came out and now that I look at the "nice guy anthem" lyrics I hate it even more.

I am LOLing pretty hard at Glenn singing menacingly at the woman on the bed though. I'm not sure threat-singing is the way to convince her to stay with the one who loves her, Glen!

can Glenn "do" menacingly?

yet a couple of you on Facebook admitted to liking this dirge.

That's part of why it's so hilarious.

Although the whole song and video has an angry men's rights activist vibe that definitely has menace potential.

that attitude goes all the way back to "Take It Easy." It's what makes the Eagles so loathsome.

xp to Alfred: I've hated this piece of dreck since I was 10, when it was on constant rotation on seemingly every Virginia radio station

think DJs liked it in part because the sax intro is so damned long they could spend like 45 seconds on chatter, listener requests, etc. before Glenn kicks in

hey guys, what have i missed so far?

"and if you do, wear armor"

Surrender to the rapture, deep within, no, no, fight it and get the hell out of there, lady

"Delicious": Glenn's trying to keep up with 1986--first the Reagan song bites Afterburner, now this one cops Robert Palmer with a Prince-esque semi-falsetto. Nice backing track that Frey farted on.

"A Walk In The Dark": Henley-esque backing...jeez, this audio encode reeks. Sounds like Glenn also heard some "Wicked Game" while at Spago. Doesn't need to be 5+ minutes long.

Third-world five-star-hotel lounge music.

aka Fifty Shades of Glenn

next: appropriate title...

"Before The Ship Goes Down"

http://www.glennfreyonline.com/images/Ep3ShakalaWins.jpg

https://youtu.be/KofEm6VZbCE

this presages Donald Fagen's last solo album.

yeah, this does have a Fagen feel to it but its dull arrangement & cliche-ridden and gross ("feel my lovin' cup"?) lyric are pure Glenn. There's something unnerving in how fundamentally generic this music is

"Big Life"

http://www.glennfreyonline.com/images/Ep1Split60-40.jpg

https://youtu.be/TtBZyZQExUY

two more tracks? eight more?

this is just fucking awful; is he trying to parody "Big Time" or just figured he'd rip it off for an album track that no one but the engineer and we sad few have ever heard?

Actually, we reviewed "Part of Me, Part of You" last month, so we've finished Strange Weather and this dismal project.

"Ain't it Love"

https://youtu.be/Qjso4bFM3so

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Qjso4bFM3so/hqdefault.jpg

boogie down with Glenny now!

oh, this is kinda sorta mediocre! good enough for a finale.

Takeaways from this thing? '80s Glenn wasn't as awful as I thought and Don even had some bonafide good tracks. But the '90s and 00s were just dismal for these guys. CD bloat (both in track length and number), middle age crankiness, calcified humorlessness; just toxic music.

I'm disappointed Frey wasn't worse.

FWIW, there are a handful of stray 2000-era Henley items (duets and tribute album stuff), and we somehow missed his 90s duet with Trisha Yearwood. But I understand stopping here.

I've really busy as of late, so I'll catch up on the these Glenns later on tonight maybe. Listening to these things really slams the brakes on one's day in a way the Eagles never could quite muster.

In the wild, heard "Sunset Grill" at Corner Bakery, followed soon after by Roxy Music's "Avalon." Hearing the two next to each other made me think that "Sunset Grill" is, sound-wise, like a kind of slightly gaudier American version of the Avalon mellow electronic sound.

Also, thanks to this thread, was reminded of the literal nature of:
These days a man makes you something
And you never see his face
But there is no hiding place
Down at the Sunset Grill

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In the wild: "The Last Worthless Evening" in Publix.

Don not going quietly. But using "authentic" singers, tho'

http://www.countryweekly.com/news/don-henley-previews-new-country-album-cass-county

Two Preview Tracks from Cass County: http://donhenley.com/news/254803

So...

Anyone up for moderating a McCartney 1974-1986 thread?

From http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/country/6655654/merle-haggard-50-years-music

Then there's a new recording, "The Cost of Living," that Haggard cut on Don Henley's album Cass County, due Sept. 25. A noted perfectionist, Henley got an excellent performance from Haggard, but the process tested the latter artist's patience.

"I was just about ready to tell him to go get f--d," says Haggard, "but we got it."

what did Don 'n' Glenn have to say about Hag?

DON: Hearing Merle on the AM dial in my little town in Texas was a big revelation for me. Like any young buck in a two-stop light town, I couldn't wait to get out and away to see the world, but songs like "Mama Tried" and "I Take A Lot of Pride In Who I Am" gave a dignity to the people and places around me I hadn't seen before. Of course, his politics were a problem, but he's since seen the light.

GLENN: I dealt with it by changing the lyrics in my head. For example, I would take it as "If you won't suck it, beat it, or you'll see the Fuckin' side of me!" Much better.

DON: Well, yeah.

Cass County streaming on NPR:

http://www.npr.org/series/98679384/first-listen

Just heard this at Fuddrucker's. Shazamed it just in time. Some band called Custom Kings have done aan earnest ukulele-heavy cover of "Boys of Summer".

I've made my peace with "You Belong to the City," despite his letting the sax cover up for a half written song.

The Glenn tributes in the new RS are pretty good. Apparently in his final days he was writing material for a solo album and (I shit you not) working on an Eagles songbook musical for Broadway.

Also: I went to a record show last week, and one of the dealers had displayed a sealed vinyl copy of Soul Searchin' for $12. Didn't buy, still livin' right.

it's the politics of contraband

In The Wild: Glenn's "True Love" on a Yacht-y muzak channel in an Italian restaurant.

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/nickelback-releases-cover-of-don-henley-dirty-laundry/

kick us when we're down

Chaddie Can't Read

gasface

LOL headline

http://www.twincities.com/2016/08/25/don-henley-lightens-up-a-bit-during-state-fair-performance/

Those fans entered the venue to find numerous signs warning not to shoot video or photographs, and security told those who tried anyway that if they didn’t stop, they’d be escorted out of the Grandstand. (This isn’t a new State Fair policy, I was told, but a demand of Henley, age 69.)

Henley is notorious for his grim demeanor on stage and rarely felt the need to look like he was enjoying himself during the high-priced Eagles reunion tours. Thursday, though, he actually showed a little enthusiasm now and again, and even cracked the occasional smile. At one point, he was talking about how it was “fun” to tour with a full horn section and said, somewhat unconvincingly, “That’s what I’m all about these days.”

love the jab about his age

Don Henley And The Horny Horns

love the jab about his age

GLEN: Used to be every night of the week...now it's a fucking age.

DON: Well, yeah.

worth reviving for some choice Don: http://montrealgazette.com/entertainment/music/qa-don-henley-on-growing-up-in-cass-county-eagles-and-coping-with-the-loss-of-glenn-frey

MG: Were you OK with the Ataris changing “Deadhead sticker on a Cadillac” to “Black Flag sticker” in their Boys of Summer cover?

DH: Not really. No, not really. But I wasn’t upset enough to do anything about it. I just went, “OK. Fine.” And if you noticed, we haven’t heard much from the Ataris since then. You know that story, right, what happened to them?

MG: I can’t remember.

DH: I mean, they wrote some songs, very poorly — they were not very good songwriters — and they put out an album, and the only song that people would want to hear when they did a concert was Boys of Summer. And the lead singer apparently got so angry about it that he had a T-shirt made that said “Who the f— is Don Henley?”, or “Who the hell is Don Henley?” or something like that. And he would apparently wear that on stage (laughs) … and I thought that was really childish. But it was funny at the same time, because it was a clear message to them that they needed to work on their craftsmanship.

Most people mellow with age. Not Henley. Henley's like a finely aged bottle of bleach.

actually, I thought he was more human and approachable than I've read in years

...and all it took was the death of Glenn Frey.

Just heard "Working It" on the local Community College Rock Station. Yikes

Let's remember how much we loved Sexy Girl.

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self-isolate after any contact with Don imo

Crockett and Tubbs recognized that if you wanted to bring down the world’s most dangerous drug dealers you’re gonna want to form an alliance with Glenn Frey. pic.twitter.com/0pdpulfpUe

— Super 70s Sports (@Super70sSports) April 8, 2022

Henley channeling Donald Trump in that interview.

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Roach joins the Criterion Collection!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmolOw2WUCg

(This video is an extra on their Thelma & Louise release)

Smugglers Blues co written by Temchin? Makes sense I guess , I wouldn’t expect Glenn to be capable of this level of wordplay