Moment when it became like cool to like commercial pop music?

My job is done. Weingarten showing himself as the bitter cretin he is. Face facts poptimism hacks, your a scam.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/06/magazine/the-pernicious-rise-of-poptimism.html

i've sent Weingarten into a denial spiral of shame and anger. You're gonna regret how this came across in the morning Weingarten.

Read it and weep, turds!

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/06/magazine/the-pernicious-rise-of-poptimism.html

whiney g., the bill laimbeer of ilx posters, made to look silly by raccoon tanuki, the michael jordan of ilx posters

this is hilarious

http://wwwwwwwww.jodi.org/

"Poptimism wants to be in touch with the taste of average music fans, to speak to the rush that comes from hearing a great single on the radio, or YouTube, and to value it no differently from a song with more “serious” artistic intent. It’s a laudable goal, emerging in part from the identity politics of the 1990s "

:)

"Contemporary music criticism is a minefield rife with nasty, ad hominem attacks, and the most popular target, in recent years, has been those professing inadequate fealty to pop.

Poptimism is a studied reaction to the musical past. It is, to paraphrase a summary offered by Kelefa Sanneh some years ago in The New York Times in an article on the perils of “rockism”: disco, not punk; pop, not rock; synthesizers, not guitars; the music video, not the live show. It is to privilege the deliriously artificial over the artificially genuine. "

The Pernicious Rise of Poptimism

"Rosen is describing poptimism as a reaction to what I think of as “Rolling Stone disease,” whereby Bob Dylan and Bruce Springsteen were treated as geniuses and the likes of Marvin Gaye and Madonna as mere pop singers. Obviously there should be no test of race or gender in musical immortality. But now the reaction has swamped the initial problem and created a wildly distorted version of the music world in 2014, as reflected in the way it’s covered.

Poptimism now not only demands devotion to pop idols; it has instigated an increasingly shrill shouting match with those who might not be equally enamored of pop music. Disliking Taylor Swift or Beyoncé is not just to proffer a musical opinion, but to reveal potential proof of bias."

Bolded text links into my reasons why the poptimism reaction has swamped the initial problem that is related to corporate control x internet advertising.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/06/magazine/the-pernicious-rise-of-poptimism.html

Whiney and Maura; sewn up.

how white people built America

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I think there's something to the theory that music-obsessed consumers, by and large, are less ashamed of their pop-music leanings. Albums/songs that 15 years ago would be labeled guilty pleasures are now relegated without that "guilty" association. I feel that may just be me getting old with not feeling guilty at all but what I listen to/like. But then again, maybe today's youth still live by those distinctions.

And I may be wrong, as my view of pop-music happenings is greatly distorted by ILM, but don't millennial music lovers as a group share a lack of cynicism when it comes to corporate-backed pop music? This observation is purely anecdotal, but I remember back in my youth really caring how "authentic" my favorite bands came off in the music press, embarrassingly. And the very notion of licencing a song off of an album by a alternative band was an act of career suicide. That sure doesn't seem to be the case anymore (thankfully). I feel like if there actually was a time in the last decade where pop music became "cool" to like, it may coincide with peoples' general acceptance of "in-authenticity".

Please don't ban me.

banned

we could not ban you if we tried

(relief)

(talk to me boy)
i can't wait tanuki in my arms
(talk to me boy)
bet i'll have tanuki by the end of this song

great thread!

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I think there's something to the theory that music-obsessed consumers, by and large, are less ashamed of their pop-music leanings. Albums/songs that 15 years ago would be labeled guilty pleasures are now relegated without that "guilty" association. I feel that may just be me getting old with not feeling guilty at all but what I listen to/like. But then again, maybe today's youth still live by those distinctions.

And I may be wrong, as my view of pop-music happenings is greatly distorted by ILM, but don't millennial music lovers as a group share a lack of cynicism when it comes to corporate-backed pop music? This observation is purely anecdotal, but I remember back in my youth really caring how "authentic" my favorite bands came off in the music press, embarrassingly. And the very notion of licencing a song off of an album by a alternative band was an act of career suicide. That sure doesn't seem to be the case anymore (thankfully). I feel like if there actually was a time in the last decade where pop music became "cool" to like, it may coincide with peoples' general acceptance of "in-authenticity".

Please don't ban me.

― Rod Steel (musicfanatic),

thems are banning words son

how the fuck did it take a week for me to find out that i was a pioneer? jesus, this is why comments suck

also racoon tanuki if you're such a hard stan for austerlitz you should start a tv thread about when it became cool to like sitcoms, which are on - wait for it - commercial tv, and which mister crusader for real art wrote a whole BOOK about

i pretty sure maura likes afghan whigs so i can vouch that she's not a narc fellow rock dudes

i'm holding fire until i hear what Stan Leipzig and Dave Marengo have to say

which mister crusader for real art

calm down popstalinism

whatsamatter tanuki is your world being demolished

you can tell that nytime article got the poptimists shook in that non of them mentioned it for the whole thread, yet apparently they know of it, I came across by chance just a few hours back, and that since it's arrival non have even attempted arguing any of it's points, preferring to on it's arrival scream, shout, spam, call for bans, disrupt thread and call names.

we were trying to keep it buried, tanuki. we were hoping it would never be found. we thought it never could be found.

but there was one thing we hadn't planned for, tanuki... you

probably no one mentioned it because we all demolished it when it came out, because it was a bunch of useless hand-wringing about superficiality from someone who couldn't be arsed to read anything that didn't fit his thesis

Sorry Maura isn't there a VMA's best dressed article you should be writing about now?

i bet if i found out how old you were i'd be bummed out

haha sick burn dude the vmas were in september

http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120518002849/mario/images/7/78/Tanooki_Mario_Artwork_-_Super_Mario_Bros._3.png

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6KOEMJKdEI

otm

probably no one mentioned it because we all demolished it when it came out
-maura

By blasting Paramore at full blast and locking yourself in your room?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsrQYVanGO0
My job is done. Weingarten showing himself as the bitter cretin he is. Face facts poptimism hacks, your a scam.

still can't figure whether tanuki will turn out to be one of the likely suspects or some heretofore unnoticed follower of rockwrite who could lurk no longer

By blasting Paramore at full blast and locking yourself in your room?

― Raccoon Tanuki, Thursday, November 20, 2014 7:47 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh honey if you're gonna place yourself as a smarter-than-thou pedant you should at least do a google news search. anyway have fun bashing your tail against bricks

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raccoon tanuki do you have bennies

JUST FUN TIMES ON THE INTERWEBZ Y'ALL

xpost IM SAYIN. ott has been my half-serious pet theory this whole time, although as some dude pointed out in the goon thread ott doesn't exactly (one assumes) know enough about rap to fake it for a troll sock identity

dude most likely spends too much time refreshing pitchfork for indie buzz bands he can mock and/or/including angrily staring at ryan schreiber's name on the masthead to pay much attention to even what p4k considers cover-able rap

i think he's mad abt interpol being stuck in the snow right now

lol def seems that way