SQUAREPUSHER album poll

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I'll stick up hard for at least four of these.

Solo studio albums only, no collabs/live stuff/comps.

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Hard Normal Daddy 8
Feed Me Weird Things 7
Music is Rotted One Note 6
Go Plastic 5
Hello Everything 4
Selection Sixteen 2
Do You Know Squarepusher 1
Ultravisitor 1
Just a Souvenir 1
Budakhan Mindphone 0
Ufabulum 0


the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Monday, 9 February 2015 16:16 (nine years ago) link

This is easily Go Plastic.

Mr. Snrub, Monday, 9 February 2015 16:17 (nine years ago) link

not heard the latest but it's still gotta be Hard Normal Daddy for me, that one really opened my brain up in a big way

Abstinence Hawk (frogbs), Monday, 9 February 2015 16:18 (nine years ago) link

It's probably between those two for me, also really like Hello Everything and the latest one.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Monday, 9 February 2015 16:19 (nine years ago) link

Squarepusher's one of these artists where every album has at least one/two pieces of gold surrounded by stuff that really should have just been left on a hard drive.

Hard Normal Daddy's the most consistently decent record, but it was before he really "became" Squarepusher in my eyes. Music Is One Rotted Note is a good distillation of his jazzier phase and I'd really like to revisit it now that I've found myself getting in to avantgarde and free jazz proper.
The last three albums kind of sit together as one in my brain - some really good stuff in there, but I must have listened to each one approx once each.

oi listen mate, shut up (dog latin), Monday, 9 February 2015 16:21 (nine years ago) link

I don't know if I can listen to these anymore - I made an effort to go through and re-listen to 'em all and gave up after Go Plastic. I feel like it's the side of IDM that hasn't really held up well.

Abstinence Hawk (frogbs), Monday, 9 February 2015 16:39 (nine years ago) link

Big Loada EP >>> the albums

lil urbane (Jordan), Monday, 9 February 2015 16:44 (nine years ago) link

some really quite interesting stuff on Squarepusher's wiki page.

oi listen mate, shut up (dog latin), Monday, 9 February 2015 16:51 (nine years ago) link

Jordan OTM, Big Loada is the best all the way through.

walid foster dulles (man alive), Monday, 9 February 2015 17:13 (nine years ago) link

Jordan super OTM

voting Hard Normal Daddy

"Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Monday, 9 February 2015 17:44 (nine years ago) link

"My Red Hot Car" might be the best track he ever made, but most of that record doesn't do it for me.

walid foster dulles (man alive), Monday, 9 February 2015 18:07 (nine years ago) link

Had the best ever stoned "holy shit this music is INCREDIBLE" moment to the first two tracks off selection sixteen. So, that.

ledge, Monday, 9 February 2015 18:10 (nine years ago) link

I agree with DL, but I would be more generous in saying that while I don't think he's ever made a perfect LP, I've always enjoyed at least half of every album he's every done. Might vote for Hello Everything or HND.

Michael F Gill, Monday, 9 February 2015 18:12 (nine years ago) link

I'd argue that HND is perfect, Feed Me Weird Things approaches perfection, Big Loada is the best artifact of music he's put out, and the rest is comprised of tracks of merit surrounded by nonsense.

"Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Monday, 9 February 2015 18:16 (nine years ago) link

Also, I've never been able to fully figure out why I love the d&b bits of Squarepusher and Aphex Twin, but have never been able to connect with 99% of other drum and bass records.

Michael F Gill, Monday, 9 February 2015 18:18 (nine years ago) link

maybe because they have a lot more going on melodically/harmonically, rather the bare minimum to let the, uh, drums and bass happen?

lil urbane (Jordan), Monday, 9 February 2015 18:29 (nine years ago) link

I wouldn't say that's strictly true unless you're specifically talking about the jump-up subsection of d&b, which can be really wearying and trying to listen to but mixes well in a set. Techstep still rules, though.

"Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Monday, 9 February 2015 19:25 (nine years ago) link

and honestly Squarepusher/Aphex usually have too much going on up top for me in their uptempo tracks, which is why 'Massif' is such a standout.

i remember liking 'Hello Everything' at the time, i should go back and check that out again.

lil urbane (Jordan), Monday, 9 February 2015 19:37 (nine years ago) link

xp i dunno, there's also a cartoonish, video-gamey style of melodicism going on in aphex/squarepusher that you don't generally hear in 'proper' d'n'b a whole lot.

also that bit in chin hippy, from HND, where it just goes all-out insane is just O_O

oi listen mate, shut up (dog latin), Monday, 9 February 2015 19:38 (nine years ago) link

i remember liking 'Hello Everything' at the time, i should go back and check that out again.

― lil urbane (Jordan)

It's really good.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Monday, 9 February 2015 19:45 (nine years ago) link

HND

the late great, Monday, 9 February 2015 19:50 (nine years ago) link

though as others have pointed out the desert island disc might be "burningn'n tree" or "big loada"

the late great, Monday, 9 February 2015 19:51 (nine years ago) link

anyone gonna rep for shobaleader?

oi listen mate, shut up (dog latin), Monday, 9 February 2015 19:57 (nine years ago) link

listening to a random playlist of the 'pusher and 'The Exploding Psychology' never sounded so good.

oi listen mate, shut up (dog latin), Monday, 9 February 2015 19:58 (nine years ago) link

WELCOME TO EUROPE!

oi listen mate, shut up (dog latin), Monday, 9 February 2015 20:07 (nine years ago) link

look all I'm saying is that No U-Turn's Torque compilation basically sounds like the world's best Wipeout soundtrack and that while the approach to melodic line is different, it works as well as the stuff Squarepusher and Aphex Twin do (see also: Plug)

"Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Monday, 9 February 2015 20:10 (nine years ago) link

the CD version (i think) of Big Loada that has "Port Rhombus" and other single-y bits attached is perfect i think but my vote wd be for Go Plastic specifically for the surrounding nonsense

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI22vpZ5ztQ (Noodle Vague), Monday, 9 February 2015 21:53 (nine years ago) link

would vote burningn'n tree in a heartbeat but since its not here, HND for sure

a strawman stuffed with their collection of 12 cds (jjjusten), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 20:45 (nine years ago) link

i've listened to the first 5 or so but Feed Me Weird Things is the only one that has ever really been a keeper for me

some dude, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 20:54 (nine years ago) link

I have a soft spot for Ultravisitor despite the fact that it never ends

Simon H., Tuesday, 10 February 2015 22:37 (nine years ago) link

So many of his albums are inconsistent, yet have absolute standout classics. But I'll choose from the shortlist of "consistent" records that I love from start to finish: Feed Me Weird Things, Ultravisitor, Hello Everything and Ufabulum.

Ended up going with Hello Everything because it has that great combo of consistency and standout classics as well as enough diversity where it felt like every song was a vignette of a previous album's exploration. Overall this poll makes me pine for a Squarepusher ballot poll.

octobeard, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 07:58 (nine years ago) link

port rhombus

ᕙ(⇀‸↼‶)ᕗ (am0n), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 16:50 (nine years ago) link

(see also: Plug)

yees

contenderizer, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 17:41 (nine years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Sunday, 15 February 2015 00:01 (nine years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Monday, 16 February 2015 00:01 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, no surprises here, it's a pretty solid result. That said, Budakhan is essential, if only because it contains Iambic 5 Poetry (?) which is one of his best tracks. Ufabulum was sounding pretty great the one time I decided to check it out but I'm not sure I'm as invested in Jenkinson's work as I once was.

oi listen mate, shut up (dog latin), Monday, 16 February 2015 09:50 (nine years ago) link

Ufabulum actually one of his most consistent albums ever imo.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Monday, 16 February 2015 10:12 (nine years ago) link

Really hoping for a Squarepusher tracks poll.

Mr. Snrub, Monday, 16 February 2015 11:52 (nine years ago) link

I have 'feed me weird thing' but was a bit meh.

what am I missing?

Mark G, Monday, 16 February 2015 11:57 (nine years ago) link

xpost it would be more useful to be fair, given his erratic discography.

oi listen mate, shut up (dog latin), Monday, 16 February 2015 11:57 (nine years ago) link

(don't say 'an s' btw) xpost

Mark G, Monday, 16 February 2015 11:57 (nine years ago) link

feed me weird things seems a bit overrated ITT. it's got some good moments but seems more like a lead-in to Hard Normal Daddy.

oi listen mate, shut up (dog latin), Monday, 16 February 2015 11:58 (nine years ago) link

Really hoping for a Squarepusher tracks poll.

― Mr. Snrub, Monday, February 16, 2015 11:52 AM (6 hours ago)

I would be happy to run one some day, though I'm not sure how many voters could be mustered. Pretty much everyone who ever posts about him is here, no?

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Monday, 16 February 2015 18:16 (nine years ago) link

i seem to have misplaced my copy of HND!

:-(

the late great, Monday, 16 February 2015 18:25 (nine years ago) link

dog latin otm re: budakhan mindphone, love that one.

the late great, Monday, 16 February 2015 18:26 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

just checked RYM because there's another record coming out and was astonished to see that Just a Souvenir was his lowest ranked LP, it's definitely more straightforward than his other work but that's really not a bad thing! that's a record from him I can really get in to.

Abstinence Hawk (frogbs), Tuesday, 17 March 2015 21:13 (nine years ago) link

I was just thinking it's been awhile since there was a new SQP lp.

Michael F Gill, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 01:20 (nine years ago) link

Strange how Music Is Rotted One Note is the first and most concise 'jazz' statement by him. I'd really like to see him tackle this side again, not that jazz didn't figure into his later work, it did, but MIRON just feels so much of a piece, save for the opening track which doesn't fit in at all.

mcayrshire (dog latin), Wednesday, 18 March 2015 12:01 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

"Iamnbic 5 Poetry" is a track I've played for many who were otherwise unconvinced by Squarepusher and they were surprised this side of him executed. It's the perfect mixture of elegance and disarray and probably one of the most gorgeous tracks in existence.

Carlotta's Portrait (Ross), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 04:46 (seven years ago) link

*existed not executed

Carlotta's Portrait (Ross), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 04:47 (seven years ago) link

it is indeed an amazing piece of work. Squarepusher is so good at melody, it's a shame he doesn't use it more.

Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 08:56 (seven years ago) link

Love the melody of "theme from Ernest Borgnine", that's a massive tune

a but (brimstead), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 14:50 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Iambic 5 sounds incredible on the Shobaleader One album.

afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 23 March 2017 22:03 (seven years ago) link

I could live without the name or the mask gimmick, but the albums good.

afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 23 March 2017 22:04 (seven years ago) link

can't believe there's a "Squarepusher plays all his great old stuff" album out and there's no ILX thread for it

frogbs, Friday, 24 March 2017 00:11 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-j_D-O1vwM

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 24 March 2017 02:43 (seven years ago) link

will listen to this more over the next few weeks, but haven't been all that excited about this so far. My main issue is that by turning these tracks into live jams (and they do sound like jams for long stretches), you shift the focus from Squarepusher's amazing drum programming, to his IMO not always as impressive compositions and the live drumming.

The drumming on this record is good too, very energetic -- but to really pull this off, I think he'd need to get a full out genius playing drums, because a lot of the detail and interest in the original is simply what's going on in the drums, how they evolve over the course of a track. The drummer would either have to play exactly what is on the record (which would be almost impossible), or be so inherently interesting/creative himself, that the record would be great just because of him.

Dominique, Friday, 24 March 2017 13:13 (seven years ago) link

geez yr really pricking a whole in my balloon Dom

frogbs, Friday, 24 March 2017 13:28 (seven years ago) link

one music fan discouraged before 10 am EST, check

Dominique, Friday, 24 March 2017 13:31 (seven years ago) link

I don't know why but the drumming on the live "theme from squarepusher" vid I watched totally cracked me up... the whole idea cracks me up.. I approve

a but (brimstead), Friday, 24 March 2017 15:43 (seven years ago) link

Really, though, what's with the fucking helmets

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 24 March 2017 16:57 (seven years ago) link

So many notes! All of the notes. The drummer is killing it (esp. with that hi-hat made out of crash cymbals to simulate a chopped Amen), but sure it would have been cool to hear a Jojo Mayer or Mark Guiliana on this.

Still, so dense, which is why 'Massif' will always be my fav Squarepusher.

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 24 March 2017 17:14 (seven years ago) link

ha yeah, how has Squarepusher not worked with Jojo Mayer?

Dominique, Friday, 24 March 2017 17:18 (seven years ago) link

Boiler Room video is niiiiiiiiiiiiiice

millwallreptile (Noodle Vague), Friday, 24 March 2017 20:49 (seven years ago) link

He's stuck in drum clinic land I guess.

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 24 March 2017 21:04 (seven years ago) link

really feeling this live "cooper world" too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VypU8zojFsY

a but (brimstead), Friday, 24 March 2017 23:24 (seven years ago) link

coopers world

a but (brimstead), Friday, 24 March 2017 23:24 (seven years ago) link

I'm enjoying the album. How is their first? It looks like it got some pretty nasty reviews, but Pitchfork just ripped the new one apart and it didn't deserve it.

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 24 March 2017 23:30 (seven years ago) link

the "deep fried pizza" on this record slays

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Friday, 24 March 2017 23:32 (seven years ago) link

Picked up the Shobaleader album at the weekend and yeah, enjoying it quite a lot. He's picked some great tracks to do, the band are tight, and it certainly beats all those crappy Squarepusher Live recordings he insisted on including on a lot of his releases over the years

Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Monday, 27 March 2017 09:45 (seven years ago) link

Also loving the nonsensical artwork on the inner sleeve.

Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Monday, 27 March 2017 09:48 (seven years ago) link

I reckon that Pitchfork is pretty fair and balanced actually. This is a decent album and good fan-service for people who know his work, but it's not blowing my mind or anything. I'd love to see this happen live though.

Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Monday, 27 March 2017 09:51 (seven years ago) link

A Squarepusher poll wouldn't be a bad shout I reckon. Man's got so much stuff out there, even as a fan I haven't really properly listened to much beyond 2006 beyond cursory listens. Would love some personal best-ofs, especially of the last ten years

Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Monday, 27 March 2017 11:58 (seven years ago) link

I'd be up for running one - not sure it'd attract enough voters to be worth it though.

chap, Monday, 27 March 2017 12:27 (seven years ago) link

I'm enjoying the album. How is their first? It looks like it got some pretty nasty reviews, but Pitchfork just ripped the new one apart and it didn't deserve it

I wasn't into it too much when I first heard it but recently gave it another shake and I thought it was awesome. I think if you dug Just a Souvenir (and I did) you'd probably like it fine. You kinda have to divorce your mind from the Squarepusher thing since subconsciously you always expect some fucked up drum patterns when in reality it's just a fun little synth funk record. The Pitchfork review seems mean - "Daft Punk gone metal gone wrong" seems exactly what people would look for in something like this.

frogbs, Monday, 27 March 2017 12:47 (seven years ago) link

I guess the real question is, will there be a studio record done in this style, written specifically for the band? If not I guess it does seem a bit pointless...

frogbs, Monday, 27 March 2017 12:53 (seven years ago) link

The first Shobaleader sounds a bit like it would work side-by-side with the likes of Thundercat or Dam Funk

Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Monday, 27 March 2017 13:24 (seven years ago) link

Re: the Pitchfork review, a sub-6 for a well executed set of songs seems pretty harsh.

I am disappointed it's a live recording, but I guess they're trying to prove they don't need the studio to pull off the songs?

Anyway, Id like an album of originals next time.

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 27 March 2017 16:27 (seven years ago) link

not sure I agree about the need for a studio album, seens like it would be overkill

a but (brimstead), Monday, 27 March 2017 22:58 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, you're right.

That Boiler Room "Hello Meow" is fantastic.

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 27 March 2017 23:55 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

on a related note, I've been listening to it a lot lately and i've come around to the idea that "hello everything" is his masterpiece

the late great, Wednesday, 12 April 2017 18:06 (seven years ago) link

I'm inclined to agree. He doesn't need abrasive sections where everything goes time-stretched and weird to be good and innovative.

Having said that, I also love Go Plastic.

chap, Wednesday, 12 April 2017 18:12 (seven years ago) link

I haven't listened to the much-maligned "go plastic" / "do you know squarepusher" / "ultravisitor" since they came out, but on the strength of "hello everything" i decided to pick up used copies. excited to give them another listen

the late great, Wednesday, 12 April 2017 18:24 (seven years ago) link

if you're in the right mood for it Go Plastic is amazing. it's like a Ruins album in a way, it sounds incredibly noisy and somewhat random but once you pick apart the interplay between the different elements it starts to sound quite brilliant. that said I can't bring myself to want to hear it often.

Ultravisitor on the other hand, I think that one might be his best, maybe next to HND - its kind of a summation of everything he can do.

frogbs, Wednesday, 12 April 2017 19:18 (seven years ago) link

Ultravisitor on the other hand, I think that one might be his best, maybe next to HND - its kind of a summation of everything he can do.

OTM

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Wednesday, 12 April 2017 19:28 (seven years ago) link

Yeah I like Ultravisitor too for similar reasons that I defended Druqks for recently! It's a bit of a demo reel but has some keepers on there (though I like the more mellow fusion stuff like Iambic 9 Poetry and Tetra Sync most)

ultros ultros-ghali, Wednesday, 12 April 2017 19:35 (seven years ago) link

Back in the day I used to hook my iPod up to the speakers across the room when I was playing online poker because my computer speakers sucked. One day "Steinbolt" came up on shuffle and I didn't know what it was, just that it was the craziest and most intense thing I'd ever heard, utterly terrifying but also really awesome (as you can imagine I had the volume cranked up pretty high). Later on I looked to see what it was and was surprised to see it was Squarepusher...I was like, huh, I've listened to this album five or six times, never noticed that track before!

frogbs, Wednesday, 12 April 2017 20:09 (seven years ago) link

Can't get into Ultravisitor, mostly too self-indulgent.

chap, Wednesday, 12 April 2017 23:24 (seven years ago) link

I love how it's hard to tell where the live ends and begins on Ultravisitor, including mashes of live playing with audience chatter merged into studio recordings. I think it's easily his most psychedelic record - an attribute I wouldn't normally give to Squarepusher.

Carlotta's Portrait (Ross), Thursday, 13 April 2017 02:21 (seven years ago) link

Ultravisitor is kind of when I stopped being an avid fan really. Not sure if it's just cos it came out when my interest in Warp/IDM was waning or if it was something else, but every succeeding album only got a couple of cursory plays from me. Sqaurepusher is one of these frustrating artists with a huge back catalogue where each release has at least 2-3 incredible songs surrounded by a lot of padding.

Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Thursday, 13 April 2017 07:49 (seven years ago) link

each release has at least 2-3 incredible songs surrounded by a lot of padding

yeah, i agree with the broad point, though i would put the number of incredible songs on each album as closer to 4-7. of course 4-7 back to back drill and bass workouts might be more fun in theory than in reality, so maybe there is a reason why he pads his albums out.

the late great, Thursday, 13 April 2017 17:11 (seven years ago) link

His best few albums don't have much padding (I think DL and I have disagreed on that point several times before...).

chap, Thursday, 13 April 2017 17:13 (seven years ago) link

yeah i'm not sure "padding" is the right word

the late great, Thursday, 13 April 2017 18:22 (seven years ago) link

Ufabulum's frustratingly good in parts and pieces. like in the opener, 4001, the vibe is super chill/melancholy/reflective, but it jumps straight into a dubious stadium-strobe light-blow yr wad chorus. Static Shock is pretty sweet as well. The album is mastered way too loud, it kills the ears. Sounds too much like anxious, monochrome Decepticons, needs more low key chillness.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Thursday, 13 April 2017 19:21 (seven years ago) link

few say this, but I like Just A Souvenir. Like miniature prog-jazz tunes played by (yep) robots. Mastered super quietly for some reason, but it's one of the few Squarepusher records I'd call "charming"

Dominique, Thursday, 13 April 2017 19:23 (seven years ago) link

love how dry those first several tracks are on JAS.. it's great

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Thursday, 13 April 2017 19:24 (seven years ago) link

Shobaleader One is so amazing

kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 13 April 2017 19:26 (seven years ago) link

lol I was gonna post in here how much I dug Just a Souvenir and Ufabulum. I think if you're gonna follow Squarepusher it really helps to not have any expectations and just listen with an open mind. With JAS I remember a lot of people being disappointed that Squarepusher would put out such a "dumb" record. For me it was like...I've been waiting years for him to do that. Ufabulum I really thought was great, but as pointed out its just too loud, which I think marred his latest album too. I kinda like it when his music is just brainless and fun.

frogbs, Thursday, 13 April 2017 19:30 (seven years ago) link

The Coathanger (on JAS) is a good curve ball for a mixed tape, and it's dry- almost grip tape, matte as fuck.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Thursday, 13 April 2017 19:38 (seven years ago) link

two months pass...

you know what, this Shobaleader album rules, I'm listening to it all the time now.

frogbs, Friday, 16 June 2017 02:47 (six years ago) link

two years pass...

Liking the new stuff a lot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59ke5hp-p3E

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 20:24 (four years ago) link

Budakhan Mindphone robbed

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 20:52 (four years ago) link

it has one good song, but it's one of his best ones. maybe his best one

YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Thursday, 28 November 2019 09:08 (four years ago) link

Yeah that's fair (couple of other good ones too though)

That new track is great, has that constant building-up-to-something tension giving an edge to the acid

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 28 November 2019 09:12 (four years ago) link


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