Didn't see a recent thread for this. She just released the second single
http://www.audiomack.com/song/urbane-peeps/dance-like-were-making-love
First single was obviously:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okGcksYM0N8
― Greer, Tuesday, 28 April 2015 05:04 (eight years ago) link
"dance like we're making love" is pretty good
― dyl, Tuesday, 28 April 2015 05:45 (eight years ago) link
yeah, this is good. the original "i bet" completely failed to inspire enthusiasm but the atl bass remix might have sparked my first interest in this project...
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 28 April 2015 09:11 (eight years ago) link
First lady, Ciara to visit Detroit to tout college
http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2015/04/27/first-lady-visit-detroit-tout-attending-college/26469491/
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 28 April 2015 13:45 (eight years ago) link
this new one is beauuuutiful, but also still a big fan of 'i bet'
YOUR BITCH OVER THERE!THAT STARE THAT STARE!THAT ONE RIGHT THERE!YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH!
― uberweiss, Tuesday, 28 April 2015 14:12 (eight years ago) link
Just hearing "I Bet" for the first time... those ad-libs :(
― Evan R, Tuesday, 28 April 2015 14:24 (eight years ago) link
This album is as entirely lacking in personality as everyone inaccurately thought she was all these years :(((((
― lex pretend, Thursday, 30 April 2015 21:57 (eight years ago) link
I don't hear anything special in "Dance Like We're Making Love" at all. Will give the album a listen this weekend but my hopes aren't high.
― bae sremmurd (monotony), Thursday, 30 April 2015 23:04 (eight years ago) link
don't remember any of the new tracks that preceded it, but extreeeeeeemely besotted with "kiss & tell"
― uberweiss, Friday, 1 May 2015 00:01 (eight years ago) link
first run-through and this was overall pretty poor. don't see myself revisiting this in full anytime soon.however, "kiss & tell" and "one woman army" are nice and "only one" is a decent bonus track (mostly because of that one melody).
― misterjoshua, Friday, 1 May 2015 00:34 (eight years ago) link
"i bet" sounds MUCH better within the context of the whole record if you ask me
― j. winters (josh), Friday, 1 May 2015 01:43 (eight years ago) link
i read someone describe "kiss & tell" as the "livin' it up" of this album so that one has me excited at least
― bae sremmurd (monotony), Friday, 1 May 2015 01:52 (eight years ago) link
man there are some real stinkers here :(
― j. winters (josh), Friday, 1 May 2015 01:54 (eight years ago) link
Some of the tracks are mortifying. Ciara is not the singer to whom I go for insistent protestations like "I'm a bad muthafucka I'm a bad mutahfuckah." In 2006 she didn't have to insist.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 May 2015 01:58 (eight years ago) link
love hearing the "juicy fruit" beat in the bridge of "kiss & tell," a great little moment i wish there was much more of throughout the rest of the record
― j. winters (josh), Friday, 1 May 2015 02:10 (eight years ago) link
I enjoy a good chunk of this, but even the bits I enjoy are kind of like "oh this is pleasant" instead of wanting to go listen to them again. Things do pick up pretty dramatically after I Bet though (which I've always liked).
― Greer, Friday, 1 May 2015 02:14 (eight years ago) link
"Give Me Love" could be a low key Ariana Grande over '02 Kylie but it's not bad.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 May 2015 02:19 (eight years ago) link
Ciara is not the singer to whom I go for insistent protestations like "I'm a bad muthafucka I'm a bad mutahfuckah." In 2006 she didn't have to insist.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, May 1, 2015 1:58 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
also why is this in a track about her mother
"stuck on you" was the one song that rose above the dross on one listen, "one woman army" is great but obviously just an offcut from the last album campaign (and another reminder of how tortuous her album campaigns have been)
― lex pretend, Friday, 1 May 2015 07:55 (eight years ago) link
it's all very weird for me bcuz like, i still listen to the last album and it's still really kind of insane. i'm seeing her on Tuesday but i don't know what to expect! it's like there are 2 Ciaras: the Ciara that makes songs like SOPHOMORE and the Ciara that is completely devoid of personality. i mean i'll listen again but when i first heard DANCE LIKE WR MAKIN LOVE and I BET i was liiiike ... i KEPT ON LOOKIN.
― surm, Sunday, 3 May 2015 10:56 (eight years ago) link
ok first of all i didn't fully realize until now that the whole album dropped. when exactly did that happen? umm...
also i'm listening to it and so far nothing is calling out to me except the v beginning of Jackie. like 20 seconds beginning.
― surm, Monday, 4 May 2015 22:52 (eight years ago) link
but i feel like have to get into it bc i'm seeing her TOMORROW. like i want to be able to enjoy what i'm hearing. it's like i have to crash for a final.
― surm, Monday, 4 May 2015 22:53 (eight years ago) link
Good songs: "Dance Like We're Making Love," "Lullaby," "Kiss and Tell" (my favorite electric piano melody in a while -- as haunting as LL's "Doin' It")," "Give Me Love."
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 May 2015 23:13 (eight years ago) link
"Kiss and Tell" = 10/10 fantastic song, total classic, will be caning this one all year long
rest of the album = at this stage seems kinda like 4/10 but will give it another shot or two
― bae sremmurd (monotony), Monday, 4 May 2015 23:18 (eight years ago) link
kiss and tell is pretty
only one is making me happy right now
― surm, Monday, 4 May 2015 23:35 (eight years ago) link
woah kiss and tell on 2nd listen
why wasn't this the 1st single
― surm, Monday, 4 May 2015 23:48 (eight years ago) link
because "I Bet" had to ride the wave of petty breakup songs that dominate urban radio these days
― some dude, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 01:27 (eight years ago) link
it's actually not that bad
maybe a grower
― surm, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 03:35 (eight years ago) link
i asked my boyfriend if this album was an ode to JACKIE ONASSIS
i was like what, and he cracked up
still don't really get the title
― surm, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 03:36 (eight years ago) link
it's her mom's name, right
― some dude, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 04:42 (eight years ago) link
i think so?
― surm, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 12:15 (eight years ago) link
i'm reading the "kiss & tell" praise upthread and part of me assumes you guys just mean "stuck on you"? "kiss & tell" seems of a piece with the colourless, characterless rest to me
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 6 May 2015 07:53 (eight years ago) link
okay so Ciara was great. she can really sing, it was touching. she sang I Got You at the end and really got into it. she danced. she played I Run It, which, don't get me started, and Ride, and Goodies, and 1-2 Step, and Promise, and Jackie and 4 songs or so from the new album that sounded great live. one of the best nights i've had in a long long time!
― surm, Wednesday, 6 May 2015 13:34 (eight years ago) link
I was gonna go but work got in the way :(
― 龜, Wednesday, 6 May 2015 13:40 (eight years ago) link
fuck! she was so on time and on point. it was kind of inspiring.
― surm, Wednesday, 6 May 2015 13:41 (eight years ago) link
"kiss & tell" is incredible, seems like ciara's entry into the "love me harder"/"style" canon
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 6 May 2015 14:25 (eight years ago) link
definitely is "Kiss and Tell" and "Only You" that are my highlights so far
Kiss and Tell is kind of like a Body Party p. 2 to my ears
oh and she played Body Party o course
― surm, Wednesday, 6 May 2015 14:27 (eight years ago) link
Yep. It's one of the album's few successful attempts to Ciara-fy pop sounds of the day ("Dance..." is the other).
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 May 2015 14:27 (eight years ago) link
so perfectly chill
― surm, Wednesday, 6 May 2015 15:34 (eight years ago) link
and some weird 90s sort of rock thing that i hear when the chorus hits. <3
― surm, Wednesday, 6 May 2015 15:35 (eight years ago) link
also All Good is some underrated Janet vibes
― surm, Wednesday, 6 May 2015 15:38 (eight years ago) link
My buddy in the office told me that BMF also stands for black mafia family, which has ties to GA. just found that interesting after I read Alfred's comment about how CiCi doesn't need to insist that she's a bad motherfucker.
― surm, Wednesday, 6 May 2015 15:58 (eight years ago) link
and given that the song is about her mom and she says "if you been through what i been through, then you'd be poppin this shit too" is just kind of ... woah. sorry just trying to wrap my mind around this concept.
― surm, Wednesday, 6 May 2015 16:00 (eight years ago) link
i am so completely about this song
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Thursday, 7 May 2015 20:41 (eight years ago) link
"kiss and tell" also incredible
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Thursday, 7 May 2015 20:45 (eight years ago) link
i dig this album a lot more than her last couple. she was overdue to work with folks like Dr. Luke, of all the R&B stars who leaned towards dance pop and took flack for it, she's actually better suited to it than some of the harder-edged R&B she had been focusing on.
― some dude, Thursday, 7 May 2015 21:11 (eight years ago) link
Totally agree re the Dr. Luke productions. They sound tailored to her rather than she forced to fit to a one-size-fits pattern.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 May 2015 21:17 (eight years ago) link
Have no problem calling this her best since 2006 but it's still not great.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 May 2015 21:18 (eight years ago) link
yea definitely this album is growing on me, the fun filled dance vibes, especially seeing it live. and completely agree with Brad's comments above.
still can't rate it above the self titled tho, those deep cuts kill me.
― surm, Thursday, 7 May 2015 21:35 (eight years ago) link
you guys are nutty. basic instinct is a thousand times better than this
― Jacques_Lamure, Thursday, 7 May 2015 22:00 (eight years ago) link
i liked a couple songs on it a lot but it was mostly Terius being terrible
― some dude, Thursday, 7 May 2015 22:15 (eight years ago) link
i still think this album title is half the reason the album is as good as it is
― surm, Sunday, 10 May 2015 04:41 (eight years ago) link
tbh the title track is growing on me major
― surm, Monday, 11 May 2015 15:08 (eight years ago) link
kiss and tell + all good + one and only is a crrazy run
― surm, Monday, 11 May 2015 15:57 (eight years ago) link
This album isn't as bad as I was expecting from the reviews but it's a real slog to get through a good chunk of the middle.
― boxedjoy, Tuesday, 12 May 2015 08:00 (eight years ago) link
i feel like it gets good in the middle! i've been getting different views on which songs are ppl's favorites which i think ppl agree is a good sign? also i spotted some pretty rave reviews of the album esp. in conjunction with the tour that were posted in the past few days (the Times, Billboard, VIBE etc). they didn't get it *all* right (i still think she has one of the most expressive voices in the business), but they did her well.
― surm, Tuesday, 12 May 2015 17:08 (eight years ago) link
the delivery on each track is impeccable. she believes it. that saves the album.
― surm, Friday, 15 May 2015 02:22 (eight years ago) link
ref: Lullaby
― surm, Friday, 15 May 2015 02:43 (eight years ago) link
it is Madonna's "Cherish," but Ciara. And the opening of "Stuck on You" screams "Vogue."
― surm, Friday, 15 May 2015 02:48 (eight years ago) link
Today I realised the title track reminds me of Farrah Abraham's debut album.
― boxedjoy, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 18:09 (eight years ago) link
i think if she had just subbed out the lyrics "i'm a bad motherfucker" for something else it would be kind of a perfect song? i dunno i keep listening to it, i can't stop
― surm, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 23:50 (eight years ago) link
i don't think there's anything wrong with that line. i just watched my wife push out a baby and i think she's a bad motherfucker.
― some dude, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 23:56 (eight years ago) link
see that's what i wanted to hear someone say! thank you. i've been on the fence about it and tbh i think u just converted me.
― surm, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 23:58 (eight years ago) link
btw congrats!
― surm, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 23:59 (eight years ago) link
thanks!
― some dude, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 00:25 (eight years ago) link
dad jokes only gonna get stronger from here on out. (congrats)
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 06:06 (eight years ago) link
idk "I proceed to break it down like that" is a boast very much in character like "I'm a bad motherfuckah" isn't.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 May 2015 11:21 (eight years ago) link
anyway notwithstanding, the 2nd verse of the song slaughters
― surm, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 13:57 (eight years ago) link
EVEN WHEN I'M OUT OF TOWN THEY KNOW JUST WHERE I'M FROM
A T L A N T A G A THAT'S RIGHT
― surm, Monday, 25 May 2015 16:34 (eight years ago) link
belatedly, adore "dance like we're making love"
― Tim F, Monday, 29 June 2015 13:22 (eight years ago) link
^^ one of my keepers
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 29 June 2015 13:25 (eight years ago) link
same!http://narrowcast.blogspot.com/2015/06/deep-album-cuts-vol-40-ciara.html
― some dude, Monday, 29 June 2015 14:23 (eight years ago) link
the good cuts off this record are top quality (i would say there are about 8.) also that's how i'm feelin' is fun. this is a deceptive album.
― surm, Monday, 29 June 2015 15:50 (eight years ago) link
belatedly belated: "dance like we're making love" is great but I let out an audible "fuck" when I read it was luke :/
― for sale: baby shoes, never worn your ass (katherine), Saturday, 1 August 2015 22:07 (eight years ago) link
dr. luke is like chris brown, can't boycott him without breaking your radio
― FLOPSZN (some dude), Saturday, 1 August 2015 23:39 (eight years ago) link
or breaking your face
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 August 2015 23:47 (eight years ago) link
alfred...
― FLOPSZN (some dude), Sunday, 2 August 2015 00:08 (eight years ago) link
yes Lisa
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 2 August 2015 00:12 (eight years ago) link
yeah that song is really good
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 2 August 2015 00:59 (eight years ago) link
Luke's done some interesting non-Luke sounding stuff recently
just finished reviewing it for tomorrow's Jukebox
just getting the chance to talk to her was one of the biggest moments in my life, i will cherish it forever.
― surm, Sunday, 2 August 2015 16:35 (eight years ago) link
Finally saw the video and even that's unremarkable in the context of the ciara videography. The song is entirely unmemorable and bland.
― lex pretend, Sunday, 2 August 2015 22:13 (eight years ago) link
disagree. it's by the books, but it's not bland. it's true to herself. at first i had the same reaction, but if you listen to her vocals on the chorus, you hear the entirely un-bland commitment.
― surm, Monday, 3 August 2015 03:26 (eight years ago) link
the chorus feels both tense and unforced to me, i think it's great
― J0rdan S., Monday, 3 August 2015 04:03 (eight years ago) link
good way to put it
― surm, Monday, 3 August 2015 04:17 (eight years ago) link
I don't even see how it's by the books. It sounds like a 2015 pop take on Genesis' "Tonight Tonight Tonight" which is a big part of why I love it.
― Tim F, Monday, 3 August 2015 04:59 (eight years ago) link
you just meant "in the air tonight" i guess, the keyboard line is basically ITAT with a few extra bars
― cock chirea, Monday, 3 August 2015 06:53 (eight years ago) link
i don't really follow ciara and only dip my toe in this kind of music occasionally, but i really quite like this album. so i guess it's typical that the heads in this thread were disappointed.
― (no offence to people) (dog latin), Monday, 3 August 2015 08:50 (eight years ago) link
lot of the songs on this record reveal themselves over time. my girlfriend plays "that's how i'm feelin'" all the time and i love that song now
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Monday, 3 August 2015 13:52 (eight years ago) link
YES
― surm, Monday, 3 August 2015 14:19 (eight years ago) link
love it when the girlfriends and wives start becoming a part of the conversation tbh
― surm, Monday, 3 August 2015 14:20 (eight years ago) link
BEHIND EVERY GOOD ILXOR, THERE'S A GOOD WOMAN
― surm, Monday, 3 August 2015 14:21 (eight years ago) link
Heard The Breakfast Club shame Ciara today for how she's raising her kid (she let him wear Russell Wilson's jersey!). The segment just went on and on and on; I feel awful for her
― Evan R, Monday, 3 August 2015 14:51 (eight years ago) link
the breakfast club is p dumb so i would take it with a grain of salt. also I Got You is the only mommy song i can stomach and she clearly gives a big fuck about her son so that's just bad "journalism"
― surm, Monday, 3 August 2015 15:06 (eight years ago) link
also i think she's pretty over feeling awful for not getting all of the media feedback that she deserves, which is good for her.
― surm, Monday, 3 August 2015 15:08 (eight years ago) link
re "Kiss & Tell": it's nice to hear a song from a woman's pov about her man working it for her, especially set to a "Doin' It"-style electric piano.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 August 2015 15:35 (eight years ago) link
i still can't even talk about that song i want it to be on the radio over and over. there's something about the bass
― surm, Monday, 3 August 2015 15:37 (eight years ago) link
and it sounds fucking great in a Volvo btw
― surm, Monday, 3 August 2015 16:24 (eight years ago) link
imh one woman army is the better who run the world (girls) + also it reminds me of all the Ciaras in the Gimme Dat vid
which i have to watch now
― surm, Monday, 10 August 2015 06:17 (eight years ago) link
DLWML. this video is unbearable. unbearably real. beautiful. Vogue.
― surm, Monday, 10 August 2015 07:55 (eight years ago) link
digging the white midriff top most as it hearkens back to Goodies but the ballroom scene doesn't hurt
― surm, Monday, 10 August 2015 07:58 (eight years ago) link