Joanna Newsom - Divers (clusterfuck topic tbd)

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old lady cat voice

scott seward, Monday, 10 August 2015 13:55 (eight years ago) link

CHICKEN
SANDWICH

j., Monday, 10 August 2015 13:56 (eight years ago) link

I miss the garlic pressed goose vocal stylings

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Monday, 10 August 2015 13:58 (eight years ago) link

Been pretty desperate for this album to be announced.

abcfsk, Monday, 10 August 2015 13:59 (eight years ago) link

Song is great. hits me hard when it moves into its 2nd form

abcfsk, Monday, 10 August 2015 14:02 (eight years ago) link

awesome

call all destroyer, Monday, 10 August 2015 14:03 (eight years ago) link

yes! hurrah!

listener to of Radiohead (cajunsunday), Monday, 10 August 2015 14:05 (eight years ago) link

I liked that one time when she rhymed "caravel" with "Cair Paravel"...

Sam Weller, Monday, 10 August 2015 14:10 (eight years ago) link

Sapokanikan was the name of one of several Lenape villages that archaeologists have identified as existing on Manhattan Island prior to the coming of Europeans. It was located in the southwest portion of the island, on the shores of a trout stream the Indians called Minetta. Stretching things just a bit, one might say the members of this seasonal community were the first residents of Greenwich Village.

call all destroyer, Monday, 10 August 2015 14:11 (eight years ago) link

Yes, this is very good news.

I'm sure I've said it elsewhere, but I spent way too long avoiding Joanna Newsom because she seemed, on paper, pretty distinctly Not My Thing. If, however, that paper had read "dark fairytales by a female Cormac McCarthy", I'd have been much more intrigued.

Those Jorts Are Upsetting (Old Lunch), Monday, 10 August 2015 14:22 (eight years ago) link

hyped

tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Monday, 10 August 2015 14:30 (eight years ago) link

melanie vibes

tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Monday, 10 August 2015 14:35 (eight years ago) link

oh hey it's not a 6xLP

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Monday, 10 August 2015 14:37 (eight years ago) link

I am not in the mood today to have the word "ozymandian" sung at me

Also her house looks like Aladdin fucking the Genie http://la.curbed.com/archives/2014/07/41_photos_inside_andy_samberg_and_joanna_newsoms_mindblowing_moorcrest_estate.php

got a long list of ilxors (fgti), Monday, 10 August 2015 14:39 (eight years ago) link

*patiently awaits the unicorn memes*

No harp!

... (Eazy), Monday, 10 August 2015 14:50 (eight years ago) link

(On the single, that is. Also: video ^^ directed by Paul Thomas Anderson.)

... (Eazy), Monday, 10 August 2015 14:52 (eight years ago) link

that is pretty sweet house i must say

9 days from now a.k.a next weekend. (dog latin), Monday, 10 August 2015 14:57 (eight years ago) link

i love that house

call all destroyer, Monday, 10 August 2015 15:00 (eight years ago) link

I feel like I could live there and no one would notice

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Monday, 10 August 2015 15:04 (eight years ago) link

Have we determined definitively that Joanna Newsom isn't an extended Kaufman-esque SNL sketch?

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Monday, 10 August 2015 15:08 (eight years ago) link

that song is like a warning to all the ukulele cutesy poos out there. pack your ukes up, bitchez, big momma's back in town!

scott seward, Monday, 10 August 2015 15:32 (eight years ago) link

i love joanna so much and i hate you all

j. winters (josh), Monday, 10 August 2015 15:50 (eight years ago) link

jk

j. winters (josh), Monday, 10 August 2015 15:51 (eight years ago) link

It sounds a lot like a Have One On Me track. She had been doing pretty well at finding new styles from release to release up to now.

jmm, Monday, 10 August 2015 15:53 (eight years ago) link

i think it starts off sounding like hoom (lol, hoom) and then develops into something else

gone full patrick wolf with the recorders I see

oh, i am a lonlely poster. i live in a box of posts. (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 10 August 2015 16:52 (eight years ago) link

ad;lfkkjadf'df;lkakjdff;!!!!

wasn't expecting this news at all, very excited! I really like this new song although it does seem to stick fairly closely with the HOOM vibe, which is ok by me. I was starting to thing that she was basically retired.

too young for seapunk (Moodles), Monday, 10 August 2015 16:58 (eight years ago) link

also, nice cover art. Strong cover connection with:

http://www.progarchives.com/progressive_rock_discography_covers/2252/cover_41211028102010.jpg

too young for seapunk (Moodles), Monday, 10 August 2015 17:03 (eight years ago) link

I was starting to thing that she was basically retired.

Me too. Unfortunately, it is not so.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 10 August 2015 17:04 (eight years ago) link

hey everyone, no one cares that you find Joanna Newsom bothersome or whatever

geoffreyess, Monday, 10 August 2015 17:33 (eight years ago) link

"gone full patrick wolf" yes please

geoffreyess, Monday, 10 August 2015 17:33 (eight years ago) link

hey everyone, no one cares that you find Joanna Newsom bothersome or whatever

um welcome to a joanna newsom thread on ilm, a music message board on the internet

http://grandchalonpoker.com/assets/images/Adherer/unicorn-riding-rainbow.jpg

http://joannanewsomfashion.tumblr.com/post/33857487709

^ Explains the reference to Florry Walker.

The restoration started at the top left-hand corner, but it was only near the end of the process, as Varcoe-Cocks reached the bottom right-hand corner, that he discovered that Streeton had scratched the name of a woman, "Florry Walker", into the still-wet paint three times, probably using a pin.

As the conservator went back over the artwork with a microscope he found there was also "Florry is my sweetheart" and "Florry/Smike", the artist's Dickensian nickname. All were invisible to the naked eye.

An X-ray of the painting taken before the restoration began had shown that Streeton originally had painted a naked woman with her back turned and long hair falling over her shoulders. This figure was later painted out and replaced by male bathers.

Could this have been Florry Walker? And if so, who was she, and what did it all mean?

jmm, Monday, 10 August 2015 17:42 (eight years ago) link

One-stop hateration shop, y'all: Things You Just Don't Care About

Those Jorts Are Upsetting (Old Lunch), Monday, 10 August 2015 17:43 (eight years ago) link

hey everyone, no one cares that you find Joanna Newsom bothersome or whatever

Well that's clearly not true.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 10 August 2015 17:45 (eight years ago) link

so mad that pta directs this video. do videos by great bands, you good directors. gah already, feh

tremendous crime wave and killing wave (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 10 August 2015 18:07 (eight years ago) link

more like joanna noisome

five six and (man alive), Monday, 10 August 2015 18:10 (eight years ago) link

I would love for a linguist to break down her singing accent for me

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Monday, 10 August 2015 18:12 (eight years ago) link

wish she'd troll w/ the full Milk Eyed Mender harsh voice on this album

oh, i am a lonlely poster. i live in a box of posts. (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 10 August 2015 18:29 (eight years ago) link

Well the jabs against her are the same as back then, so job done I guess.. Wish the haters didn't take as much space as they do, though.

abcfsk, Monday, 10 August 2015 18:35 (eight years ago) link

I think she developed a vocal condition which means she can't sing that way anymore.

jmm, Monday, 10 August 2015 18:35 (eight years ago) link

I think she developed a vocal condition which means she can't sing that way anymore.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 10 August 2015 18:44 (eight years ago) link

Breaking news: people who didn't like Joanna Newsom before still don't like Joanna Newsom. Please keep us updated on all the developments in this story. Please.

Those Jorts Are Upsetting (Old Lunch), Monday, 10 August 2015 18:47 (eight years ago) link

feel like only a podcast could cure them

oh, i am a lonlely poster. i live in a box of posts. (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 10 August 2015 18:49 (eight years ago) link

update 4 u. I still don't like her music.

Spottie, Monday, 10 August 2015 18:50 (eight years ago) link

I think she developed a vocal condition which means she can't sing that way anymore.

probably less "developed" and more "was asking for", given the mechanics behind singing and how painful (to the throat, not the ears) what she was doing sounded

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Monday, 10 August 2015 18:50 (eight years ago) link

RIP larynx

how's life, Monday, 10 August 2015 18:58 (eight years ago) link

lex, if it's any help, the shorter songs helped me get the rest of the album.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 14:06 (eight years ago) link

The last time I was listening to this new one I found myself wondering what it would be like to hear her growl.

Last time I saw her live she had to tune her harp, so set her fancy parlor guitarist off to do some speed metal riffs.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 14:32 (eight years ago) link

really love this. i know 'same old man' doesn't seem like much of a stand-out track, but i really appreciate the presence of a fairly plain traditional song amidst the intricate footnoted fancies of the rest of the album. it's arrangement is fairly simple and her vocal delivery marks her stylistic debt to karen dalton, almeda riddle, et al. it's much like 'three little babies' a la texas gladden on MEM in that way, but here 'same old man' also reflects themes and images found elsewhere on the album. clever way to anchor what otherwise feels like a metaphysical concept album.

i got the LP and the lyric sheets are gorgeous, one for each song, with the same sort of surreal magical landscapes as featured on the cover. i'm seeing her in december, can't wait. i kinda love her the most right now.

gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 14:56 (eight years ago) link

further to DJP's question about joanna's singing accent, i suspect the answer might be 'appalachian' imho

gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 14:58 (eight years ago) link

you going to the boston show by any chance?

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 15:07 (eight years ago) link

i am indeed! with the husband and a couple friends. would love to see you there, if you're going as well!

gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 15:23 (eight years ago) link

sweet, yeah, i'll be there!

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 15:29 (eight years ago) link

I think melody is one of her strengths. But then I just can't understand people liking her but not getting into YS. Talk about generous, I feel like she was just rolling one beautiful melody onto the next in the most riveting way, emotionally captivating and catchy.

abcfsk, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 16:03 (eight years ago) link

further to DJP's question about joanna's singing accent, i suspect the answer might be 'appalachian' imho

― gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Wednesday, November 11, 2015 2:58 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

there's a really old WFMU interview where she talks about her accent being a result of coming from a very small country town and some mixture of speech impediments (she mentions a lisp) and corrective speech therapy.

lamonti, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 17:25 (eight years ago) link

Try Time, As a Symptom Lex. The ascending melody in the "joy" section is hair-raising.

impossible raver (Re-Make/Re-Model), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 18:12 (eight years ago) link

melodies that aren't memorable, then. i always feel like her songs meander pretty aimlessly in terms of where the next note goes

― lex pretend, Wednesday, November 11, 2015 1:57 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i get this feeling a bit. more than ever on this record it seems like there are some gorgeously composed and arranged melodies which have some pretty interesting lyrics set to them, rather than some tunes and words that were thought of at the same time

thwomp (thomp), Thursday, 12 November 2015 10:17 (eight years ago) link

though now she's more likely to stretch a syllable over a few notes, and less likely to crowd her lyrics with some extra syllables at risk of destroying her syntax -- which seems more confident, i think, in a couple ways, though less of a high-wire act

thwomp (thomp), Thursday, 12 November 2015 10:18 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

http://cdn2.pitchfork.com/news/62522/e9f3593c.jpg

nomar, Friday, 18 December 2015 07:47 (eight years ago) link

three weeks pass...

I just put this record on at 45 rpm by mistake. I was kinda taken with it for a while. I guess that's exactly what the haterz hear.

Is this gonna get much love in the aoy poll? I'll vote it high. It's lovely. It's really stayed with me - I've listened to it every week since it's come out.

kraudive, Friday, 8 January 2016 19:16 (eight years ago) link

I vote it high, album knocked me out. Her 2nd best probably. Seems she didn't get any hype help from the usual sources this year though so I'm guessing just her loyal fans vote.

abcfsk, Friday, 8 January 2016 19:20 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, second best after Ys I would say.

jmm, Friday, 8 January 2016 19:22 (eight years ago) link

I loved it.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 January 2016 19:49 (eight years ago) link

for some reason i didn't connect to this record at all. idk why

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 8 January 2016 19:51 (eight years ago) link

no synth stabs

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 January 2016 19:51 (eight years ago) link

of course

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 8 January 2016 19:52 (eight years ago) link

it's easy to imagine Newsom singing "Wood Beez" tbh

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 January 2016 19:53 (eight years ago) link

i feel really unmotivated about voting but if i do it will only be to try to place this record

call all destroyer, Friday, 8 January 2016 19:56 (eight years ago) link

for me the first 5/6 songs are amazing and then it really drops off into less interesting territory... pretty much exactly the first 2 sides on the vinyl version. anyone else find this?

linee, Friday, 8 January 2016 23:56 (eight years ago) link

it's definitely her worst album imo but it still might scrape into my 25. the title track is probably the only place where all the keyboards on it really work texturally I think

ufo, Saturday, 9 January 2016 00:10 (eight years ago) link

"Goose Eggs" is the only track where I'm still iffy about the keyboards. It sounds like a product of her goofing around with a bunch of instruments that she doesn't know very well. I like it okay, it has its own character, but the closing instrumental stretch especially is a little rickety. I love the keyboard touches on "Anecdotes" and "You Will Not Take My Heart Alive".

jmm, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 16:13 (eight years ago) link

I am not a fan of her singing voice

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 16:34 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

She was great in Dublin last night - the new songs worked very well and the arrangements seemed a bit looser and less fussy than when I saw her on the HOOM tour. Robin Pecknold was the support and he came out and sang On A Good Day with her towards the end of the gig. Selection of older songs was spot on too - she ended with a great encore of Sawdust and Diamonds.

the_ecuador_three, Friday, 4 March 2016 12:26 (eight years ago) link

Yeah she was absolutely wonderful last night. The second half of the show in particular, leading up to the encore of Sawdust & Diamonds was intense.

in twelve parts (lamonti), Friday, 4 March 2016 16:11 (eight years ago) link

I somehow missed she was playing Dublin

arrrrrgh

Number None, Saturday, 5 March 2016 22:28 (eight years ago) link

two months pass...

hitting those high notes at the end of this one, wow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uixz1JTdwpQ

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Saturday, 21 May 2016 15:29 (seven years ago) link

three months pass...

Concert tonight! Wheeeeee!

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 16:52 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

I missed this new song. It's charming - could easily have fitted on Divers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGoqZ4zWSsg

jmm, Sunday, 6 November 2016 18:31 (seven years ago) link

two months pass...

It's no "Whip My Hair", but I'm still digging Willow Smith's jazzy version of "The Book of Right-On"

https://www.instagram.com/p/BPS4c31gltD/

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Thursday, 19 January 2017 17:20 (seven years ago) link

two years pass...

Some solo performance dates announced, hopefully more will follow.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 2 April 2019 16:38 (five years ago) link

three years pass...

apparently played new material tonight at a fleet foxes gig *eyes emoji*

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 March 2023 03:45 (one year ago) link

! hope a new album isn't too far away at last

ufo, Thursday, 23 March 2023 04:02 (one year ago) link

It's about time!

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 23 March 2023 04:34 (one year ago) link

I heard she is doing a flute and harp album with Lizzo.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 March 2023 13:17 (one year ago) link

https://www.reddit.com/r/JoannaNewsom/comments/11zd18x/good_intentions_paving_company_with_robin/

and good intentions paving co. with fleet foxes

ufo, Thursday, 23 March 2023 13:35 (one year ago) link

well this is an absolute and unexpected delight, it all sounds fantastic, although I hope she plays more harp on the supposed forthcoming album.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 23 March 2023 14:36 (one year ago) link

all sound like you would expect new joanna newsom songs to sound. "the air again" is a highlight

ufo, Thursday, 23 March 2023 14:38 (one year ago) link

waiting until i have time to give a close listen before i dive into these new pieces, but just seeing her pop up on the newsfeed has me down the youtube rabbit hole with joanna, and stumbled on this show from the initial ys street band tour that has absolutely immaculate sound. wow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEIH7FUwbfE

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 29 March 2023 14:34 (one year ago) link

I saw her solo a month before that show, at Bennington College. It was a peak live music experience: was only familiar with the Milk-Eyed Mender material to that point, and was totally unprepared for the grandeur of the Ys tracks. As I remember it, the show was in kind of a modest multipurpose room, with a few hundred people sitting on the floor in front of a stage that was a foot or two elevated from us.

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 29 March 2023 14:38 (one year ago) link

Yeah, that is an amazing recording, I've listened to it many times. I don't think she's ever been better than in that period.

jmm, Wednesday, 29 March 2023 14:43 (one year ago) link

hoo boy i sure would like jn to do like... the rest of her music with robin pecknold involvement. that's a collaboration that needs to endure.

''i am the kanye west kanye west thinks he is.'' (Austin), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 14:53 (one year ago) link

ugh no i know i am the minority but i liked her as a noisy loner not as a mannered decadent

sean gramophone, Wednesday, 29 March 2023 14:56 (one year ago) link

ya don't know if i can agree with that statement but she's definitely too iconoclastic for that to become her primary aesthetic

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 29 March 2023 15:01 (one year ago) link

The Bottletree gig is an awesome recording indeed, a classic in itself. I think I still have a CD-R with it burned somewhere lol.

Worth noting that fairly recently a guy on YouTube cleaned it up (getting rid of the glitches in "Emily" and "Monkey & Bear"). He also uploaded high-quality recordings of shows from every one of her tours, all with links to MP3 320 kbps downloads on Google Drive as well. Well worth checking out!

Here they are:
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLMhu9WD0R5W2UtpGX_GaLML8HyWwgg0_f

ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Wednesday, 29 March 2023 20:09 (one year ago) link

This tour was the first time I saw her perform, exact same set, and still my favorite version of her band. As soon as she started "Bridges and Balloons" it was clear that she had been working on her singing, and had added much more breath, control, and subtlety than on the original recording.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 20:13 (one year ago) link


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