The Velvet Underground Matrix tapes to finally see full release

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Velvet Underground, The Matrix Tapes
CD1 – Set One:
01 I’m Waiting For The Man (Version 1) (14:06)
02 What Goes On (Version 1) (8:58)
03 Some Kinda Love (Version 1) (4:59)
04 Heroin (Version 1) (8:13)
05 The Black Angel’s Death Song (6:20)
06 Venus In Furs (Version 1) (4:38)
07 There She Goes Again (Version 1) (3:08)
08 We’re Gonna Have A Real Good Time Together (Version 1) (3:16)
09 Over You (Version 1) (2:24)
10 Sweet Jane (Version 1) (5:12)
11 Pale Blue Eyes (6:08)
12 After Hours (Version 1) (2:58)

CD2 – Set Two:
01 I’m Waiting For The Man (Version 2)
02 Venus In Furs (Version 2) (5:16)
03 I Can’t Stand It (Version 1) (7:54)
04 There She Goes Again (Version 2) (2:54)
05 Some Kinda Love (Version 2) (4:12)
06 Over You (Version 2) (3:07)
07 After Hours (Version 2) (2:37)
08 We’re Gonna Have A Real Good Time Together (Version 2) (3:42)
09 Sweet Bonnie Brown/Too Much (7:54)
10 Heroin (Version 2) (10:08)
11 White Light/White Heat (Version 1) (9:30)
12 I’m Set Free (4.48)

CD3 – Set Three:
01 We’re Gonna Have A Real Good Time Together (Version 3) (3:18)
02 Some Kinda Love (Version 3) (4:40)
03 There She Goes Again (Version 3) (3:02)
04 Heroin (Version 3) (8:34)
05 Ocean (11:03)
06 Sister Ray (37.08)

CD4 – Set Four
01 I’m Waiting For The Man (Version 3) (5:31)
02 What Goes On (Version 2) (4:34)
03 Some Kinda Love (Version 4) (4:46)
04 We’re Gonna Have A Real Good Time Together (Version 4) (3:26)
05 Beginning To See The Light (5:42)
06 Lisa Says (6:05)
07 New Age (6:41)
08 Rock And Roll (6.58)
09 I Can’t Stand It (Version 2) (6:54)
10 Heroin (Version 4) (8:18)
11 White Light /White Heat (Version 2) (8:45)
12 Sweet Jane (Version 2) (4:20)

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 September 2015 16:12 (eight years ago) link

gah

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 10 September 2015 16:15 (eight years ago) link

even if the arranged-by-live-set structure makes it more intuitive than with a Complete Recording Sessions box, it's refreshing to see a box where the different Versions of songs are on different discs, when so many boxes but multiple takes of the same song back-to-back

da croupier, Thursday, 10 September 2015 16:17 (eight years ago) link

put multiple takes

da croupier, Thursday, 10 September 2015 16:17 (eight years ago) link

hell yeah

sleeve, Thursday, 10 September 2015 16:40 (eight years ago) link

even if the arranged-by-live-set structure makes it more intuitive than with a Complete Recording Sessions box, it's refreshing to see a box where the different Versions of songs are on different discs, when so many boxes but multiple takes of the same song back-to-back

Indeed. Thing the Robert Johnson box, for example, was of the latter variety. Seemed like an insane or insane-making way to listen.

Bon Iver Meets G.I. Joe (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 10 September 2015 17:03 (eight years ago) link

At laaaaaaast

tylerw, Thursday, 10 September 2015 17:17 (eight years ago) link

Yessssss!

StanM, Thursday, 10 September 2015 18:22 (eight years ago) link

YESSSS!!!

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 10 September 2015 18:23 (eight years ago) link

Y

1996 ball boy (Karl Malone), Thursday, 10 September 2015 18:23 (eight years ago) link

Sweet.

Fields of Fat Henry (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 September 2015 18:24 (eight years ago) link

AWESOME

chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 10 September 2015 18:28 (eight years ago) link

I'm ready to settle back and pull up my cushion.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 10 September 2015 18:30 (eight years ago) link

i might have to leave a little early, i have college in the morning

1996 ball boy (Karl Malone), Thursday, 10 September 2015 18:33 (eight years ago) link

http://www.matrixfillmore.com/

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 10 September 2015 18:35 (eight years ago) link

Wonder if they ever will officially release the cole avenue stuff (from whence lou's famed football monologue comes) or if it'll just stay in bootleg land.

tylerw, Thursday, 10 September 2015 18:43 (eight years ago) link

Excerpts from the End of Cole recordings will make up two discs of the upcoming 6-disc Squeeze box set.

A year later, they'll release a Complete End of Cole Recordings box.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 10 September 2015 18:46 (eight years ago) link

Isn't the footlogue on the Mercury 2lp, or is there more than one?

Mark G, Thursday, 10 September 2015 19:20 (eight years ago) link

Yes it is, but as Lou talks about "your Cowboys", it's case closed on it being recorded in Dallas.

Fields of Fat Henry (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 September 2015 19:24 (eight years ago) link

Yeah there are a handful of tracks from cole ave on live 69. Definitely worthy of its own release considering the dearth of pro recorded VU.

tylerw, Thursday, 10 September 2015 20:18 (eight years ago) link

Didn't actually realize there were two matrix sweet Janes -- will be interesting to see how much of it was off the top of Lou's head.

tylerw, Thursday, 10 September 2015 20:47 (eight years ago) link

And it's being released on my 50th birthday too!

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 10 September 2015 20:47 (eight years ago) link

kinda amazed that amazon listing turned out to be legit

Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 September 2015 20:48 (eight years ago) link

Has anyone else gotten word of it besides the metro times piece?

tylerw, Thursday, 10 September 2015 20:51 (eight years ago) link

... uhhhhhhh, don't do this to me

Fields of Fat Henry (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 September 2015 20:53 (eight years ago) link

Ha well the track list seems legit

tylerw, Thursday, 10 September 2015 20:57 (eight years ago) link

Excerpts from the End of Cole recordings will make up two discs of the upcoming 6-disc Squeeze box set.

IIRC a European label (maybe Captain Trip?) did, in fact, release a box set of live recordings from the post-Reed year when Yule was leading the band. no, I didn't buy it.

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 10 September 2015 20:57 (eight years ago) link

Yeah Final VU. It's ok but goes w/o saying it is for completists.

tylerw, Thursday, 10 September 2015 21:00 (eight years ago) link

I got one.

It's ummm....

Well, they clearly had a good time (together).

Funny how Doug sings none of the Velvets songs he sang on-record, but lots of Lou-sung ones. Obviously, who else etc..

Mark G, Thursday, 10 September 2015 21:01 (eight years ago) link

is moe tucker on any of those live recordings or is it doug yule + UK randoms?

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 10 September 2015 21:05 (eight years ago) link

Yeah moe and Doug are on all of it. Willie Alexander and ... I forget who else ...

tylerw, Thursday, 10 September 2015 21:07 (eight years ago) link

...yoko ono, sid vicious, that guy who won a reality show to be the lead singer of boston...

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 10 September 2015 21:08 (eight years ago) link

Walter Powers?

Fields of Fat Henry (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 September 2015 21:10 (eight years ago) link

Yes! Anyhoo kind of a benign country rock velvet underground cover band.

tylerw, Thursday, 10 September 2015 21:17 (eight years ago) link

I remember Yule telling a story about when the Reed-less Velvets had just played a show in NYC, and David Bowie comes up to Yule afterwards and starts talking his ear off. After about five minutes Yule realizes, ah, this guy thinks I'm Lou.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 11 September 2015 00:04 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/K3WwrVe.jpg

1996 ball boy (Karl Malone), Friday, 11 September 2015 00:06 (eight years ago) link

http://media1.fdncms.com/metrotimes/imager/u/original/2367782/matr.png

In the tradition of the Peel Slowly and See box, this box should be called For Immediate Release, If Not Sooner...

Hideous Lump, Friday, 11 September 2015 02:21 (eight years ago) link

"I've got my own album to do"-worthy.

hardcore dilettante, Friday, 11 September 2015 04:34 (eight years ago) link

412 Broadway was post-'73... (later The Stone). See my link upthread for the true Matrix location.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 11 September 2015 06:05 (eight years ago) link

Moe is on the first two discs of the "Final VU", and the last four tracks on disc4 which were radio-broadcast.

The very last gig wasn't meant to be billed as the VU at the time, according to the booklet.

Mark G, Friday, 11 September 2015 06:29 (eight years ago) link

I wonder what the odds are that Mo and Doug are seeing any money from all these ridic reissues

Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 September 2015 20:49 (eight years ago) link

think they're good ... doug said in a recent interview that there is a VU "group" that handles things and gets royalties where they're due. not that either of them are getting rich, i'm sure, but they get checks.

tylerw, Thursday, 17 September 2015 20:52 (eight years ago) link

and hey we have cover art
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/A1Msv2Zh1NL._SL1500_.jpg
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/810HMWgsJxL._SL1500_.jpg
it's real!

tylerw, Thursday, 17 September 2015 20:53 (eight years ago) link

at last Danny Cox achieves immortality

Οὖτις, Thursday, 17 September 2015 20:54 (eight years ago) link

Be still my beating heart etc

Fields of Fat Henry (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 September 2015 21:19 (eight years ago) link

looks like basically the same packaging style as the quine tapes?

tylerw, Thursday, 17 September 2015 21:21 (eight years ago) link

Not quite as good... fuck it though, it could come wrapped in toilet paper and I wouldn't care.

Fields of Fat Henry (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 September 2015 21:24 (eight years ago) link

One month to go.

hardcore dilettante, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 00:31 (eight years ago) link

I'm not a young man anymore.

Dinkytown Strutters' Ball (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 01:04 (eight years ago) link

her Tim parts Stand up like fireworks
Not bet? Not her..
tom parts.
Linger on... yr pail blue eyes...

Mark G, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 13:46 (eight years ago) link

here's my final bit of VU clickbait for the year -- a defense/celebration of doug yule: http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/976-in-defense-of-the-velvet-undergrounds-doug-yule/

tylerw, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 14:21 (eight years ago) link

Yeah would be very interesting to hear how much was improvised early on. Or take to take. Wondering if well known covers are based on one off versions of lyrics.

The publishing co they formed was called something like 3 Prong because they could freely improvise and return to the steady backbeat.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 15:02 (eight years ago) link

nice seasonally-appropriate Yule piece

Brad C., Tuesday, 15 December 2015 15:28 (eight years ago) link

haha, yes. tidings of Yule!

tylerw, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 15:41 (eight years ago) link

Classic.

Thank you very much, you've got a Lucky Wilbury (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 15:54 (eight years ago) link

Nice work, Tyler!

hardcore dilettante, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 20:41 (eight years ago) link

two years pass...

let's get high and listen to the velvet underground live

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 5 April 2018 01:19 (six years ago) link

Redux?

Mark G, Thursday, 5 April 2018 06:38 (six years ago) link

i stand with brad

someone’s burgling my miscellanea (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 5 April 2018 08:26 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqZKN9GA2t8

holy shit

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 7 April 2018 15:19 (six years ago) link

what really gets me about that version is that with all the mayhem and sped up Lou Reed verses, the backing vocals are absolutely perfect each time through

burzum buddies (brownie), Saturday, 7 April 2018 16:49 (six years ago) link

doug yule (i think?) was on his game!

Karl Malone, Saturday, 7 April 2018 16:50 (six years ago) link

The Matrix Tapes set is extraordinary. Ocean is wow. Love them so much.

kraudive, Saturday, 7 April 2018 20:18 (six years ago) link

this isn't matrix tapes related exactly but this show from the same year is astonishing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7XqY7IhJrk

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 00:56 (six years ago) link

the twin guitar solo on "what goes on" is like mind expanding

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 01:05 (six years ago) link

totally. mind expanding / mind splitting (white light / white heat).

tylerw, Sunday, 8 April 2018 23:33 (six years ago) link

Yeah this recording is muddy AF, but that moment really shines thru...

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Monday, 9 April 2018 17:14 (six years ago) link

SterMo's solo on "I Can't Stand It" is awesome, too

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Monday, 9 April 2018 17:20 (six years ago) link

SterMo!
That'd be Lou on lead on "I Can't Stand It"

tylerw, Monday, 9 April 2018 17:29 (six years ago) link

Really?!

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Monday, 9 April 2018 17:34 (six years ago) link

yeah, the freakier guitar work is almost always lou

tylerw, Monday, 9 April 2018 17:35 (six years ago) link

I may need to go back VU school... is it Lou who plays lead on album version of "I'm Set Free"? (Also, who plays rhythm gtr on album version of "What Goes On"?)

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Monday, 9 April 2018 17:38 (six years ago) link

Lou plays lead on "I'm Set Free" ... I think there's two guitars happening on "What Goes On"

tylerw, Monday, 9 April 2018 17:40 (six years ago) link

pretty sure that classic hard rhythm strummin' on "What Goes On" is Lou.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 April 2018 17:47 (six years ago) link

OK, thanks, that's what I thought... I always thought those freaky lead gtr lines were Sterling,'s tho!

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Monday, 9 April 2018 17:51 (six years ago) link

definitely two rhythm guitars here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pxq63cYIY1c

and when you hear a guitar freakout (heard her call my name, run run run, i can't stand it etc) it's Lou.

tylerw, Monday, 9 April 2018 17:54 (six years ago) link

Sterling's solos are very different from Lou's!

Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Monday, 9 April 2018 18:03 (six years ago) link

xpost
Yeah, I was referring to the hard strummin' in the foreground...

Tom - for my reference, what are some prime examples of Sterling solos?

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Monday, 9 April 2018 18:04 (six years ago) link

pale blue eyes, story of my life, first solo in sister ray, foggy notion

tylerw, Monday, 9 April 2018 18:06 (six years ago) link

Solos on Foggy Notion are immense.

Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Monday, 9 April 2018 18:09 (six years ago) link

Thanks guys

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Monday, 9 April 2018 18:16 (six years ago) link

Back to the Matrix Tapes -- it's funny how, in one take of "I'm Waiting for The Man," Lou clarifies: "...that's Puerto Rican!" (after the line "He's wearing Dior shoes, and a big straw hat").

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Monday, 9 April 2018 19:20 (six years ago) link

I think he sings "PR shoes," hence his elucidation of the acronym

ty VU scholars for explaining SterMo vs. Lou guitar parts!

Brad C., Monday, 9 April 2018 19:53 (six years ago) link

Whaaaat... my mind is being blown today!

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Monday, 9 April 2018 19:59 (six years ago) link

the "Legendary Amp Tapes" should shine some light on what Lou plays

burzum buddies (brownie), Monday, 9 April 2018 20:00 (six years ago) link

studio 'what goes on' has the best rhythm guitar of all time. also i think lou and sterling recorded takes of the solo bit in there and decided they liked how they sounded all layered on one another. i could have made that up but it makes sense

global tetrahedron, Monday, 9 April 2018 20:07 (six years ago) link

xpost
Apparently the official lyrics (© EMI Music Publishing) have it as "Beat up shoes"(!?)

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Monday, 9 April 2018 20:09 (six years ago) link

I found a few other ppl online saying they always thought it was "Dior shoes" (like me), but apparently we are in the extreme minority.

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Monday, 9 April 2018 20:11 (six years ago) link

Really ? I thought I heard it as PR shoes and finally had it clarified in a VU companion book after years of wondering what it was.
Some type of special point to the shoe or something from what I remember.

Stevolende, Monday, 9 April 2018 20:13 (six years ago) link

it's definitely p.r. shoes, lou said on several occasions, and that's what's printed in his lyrics collection.

xxxp - i think it's all just Lou on the WGO solo — he took three stabs at overdubbing it and then they decided to mix 'em all together to get that fuzzed out bagpipe sound.

tylerw, Monday, 9 April 2018 20:15 (six years ago) link

Well, pardon me (SUH) -- I just listened back to the original album track (the one I've been listening to since I was 15)... and I agree it is, very clearly, "PR shoes"!

Here's a gtr question -- on that album track, is it Lou playing rhythm & Sterl playing lead?

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Monday, 9 April 2018 20:19 (six years ago) link

guys it's "see your shoes and I see your hat" and i won't be told otherwise

lolz
i think it's sterling playing the riff on "waiting for the man"

tylerw, Monday, 9 April 2018 20:22 (six years ago) link

see your shoes and hat, raise you $26

Brad C., Monday, 9 April 2018 20:37 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

these recordings are so freakin good

marcos, Thursday, 26 April 2018 15:55 (five years ago) link

it is some of the best music

marcos, Thursday, 26 April 2018 15:55 (five years ago) link

otm

tylerw, Thursday, 26 April 2018 15:58 (five years ago) link

thx for bump, will listen to this later today

sleeve, Thursday, 26 April 2018 15:59 (five years ago) link

also listen to "sweet sister ray" which is turning 50 years old this week.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFaOyQbDTKs

tylerw, Thursday, 26 April 2018 16:03 (five years ago) link


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