Makes you wonder what other verses were extemporized and have forever vanished into the ether.
― hardcore dilettante, Monday, 14 December 2015 23:53 (eight years ago) link
it is interesting -- lou was famous for being able to make up lyrics on the spot, but i don't know how many good recorded examples of it there really are. the early "Sweet Jane"s, "Sweet Sister Ray," and that La Cave "Pale Blue Eyes" are the ones that come to mind. I guess parts of the long slow "waiting for the man" on quine and the new matrix set. But they're all kind of weirdly of a piece in some way...
― tylerw, Monday, 14 December 2015 23:59 (eight years ago) link
Maybe it's hindsight but I find myself listening so intently to these recordings and hearing countless vistas of unexplored sonic terrain. Mo rules so hard too. Love all the ways she plays "heroin" but especially the version with the heavy toms standing up
― lute bro (brimstead), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 00:05 (eight years ago) link
Not bet standing up, I mean her Tim parts Stand up like fireworks. Part of me thinks she's the essential component of the VU
― lute bro (brimstead), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 00:06 (eight years ago) link
Not bet? Not her. iPhones, argh
― lute bro (brimstead), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 00:07 (eight years ago) link
tom parts.
her Tim parts Stand up like fireworksNot bet? Not her..tom parts.Linger on... yr pail blue eyes...
― Mark G, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 13:46 (eight years ago) link
here's my final bit of VU clickbait for the year -- a defense/celebration of doug yule: http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/976-in-defense-of-the-velvet-undergrounds-doug-yule/
― tylerw, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 14:21 (eight years ago) link
Yeah would be very interesting to hear how much was improvised early on. Or take to take. Wondering if well known covers are based on one off versions of lyrics.
The publishing co they formed was called something like 3 Prong because they could freely improvise and return to the steady backbeat.
― Stevolende, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 15:02 (eight years ago) link
nice seasonally-appropriate Yule piece
― Brad C., Tuesday, 15 December 2015 15:28 (eight years ago) link
haha, yes. tidings of Yule!
― tylerw, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 15:41 (eight years ago) link
Classic.
― Thank you very much, you've got a Lucky Wilbury (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 15:54 (eight years ago) link
Nice work, Tyler!
― hardcore dilettante, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 20:41 (eight years ago) link
let's get high and listen to the velvet underground live
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 5 April 2018 01:19 (six years ago) link
Redux?
― Mark G, Thursday, 5 April 2018 06:38 (six years ago) link
i stand with brad
― someone’s burgling my miscellanea (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 5 April 2018 08:26 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqZKN9GA2t8
holy shit
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 7 April 2018 15:19 (six years ago) link
what really gets me about that version is that with all the mayhem and sped up Lou Reed verses, the backing vocals are absolutely perfect each time through
― burzum buddies (brownie), Saturday, 7 April 2018 16:49 (six years ago) link
doug yule (i think?) was on his game!
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 7 April 2018 16:50 (six years ago) link
The Matrix Tapes set is extraordinary. Ocean is wow. Love them so much.
― kraudive, Saturday, 7 April 2018 20:18 (six years ago) link
this isn't matrix tapes related exactly but this show from the same year is astonishing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7XqY7IhJrk
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 00:56 (six years ago) link
the twin guitar solo on "what goes on" is like mind expanding
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 April 2018 01:05 (six years ago) link
totally. mind expanding / mind splitting (white light / white heat).
― tylerw, Sunday, 8 April 2018 23:33 (six years ago) link
Yeah this recording is muddy AF, but that moment really shines thru...
― absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Monday, 9 April 2018 17:14 (six years ago) link
SterMo's solo on "I Can't Stand It" is awesome, too
― absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Monday, 9 April 2018 17:20 (six years ago) link
SterMo! That'd be Lou on lead on "I Can't Stand It"
― tylerw, Monday, 9 April 2018 17:29 (six years ago) link
Really?!
― absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Monday, 9 April 2018 17:34 (six years ago) link
yeah, the freakier guitar work is almost always lou
― tylerw, Monday, 9 April 2018 17:35 (six years ago) link
I may need to go back VU school... is it Lou who plays lead on album version of "I'm Set Free"? (Also, who plays rhythm gtr on album version of "What Goes On"?)
― absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Monday, 9 April 2018 17:38 (six years ago) link
Lou plays lead on "I'm Set Free" ... I think there's two guitars happening on "What Goes On"
― tylerw, Monday, 9 April 2018 17:40 (six years ago) link
pretty sure that classic hard rhythm strummin' on "What Goes On" is Lou.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 April 2018 17:47 (six years ago) link
OK, thanks, that's what I thought... I always thought those freaky lead gtr lines were Sterling,'s tho!
― absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Monday, 9 April 2018 17:51 (six years ago) link
definitely two rhythm guitars here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pxq63cYIY1c
and when you hear a guitar freakout (heard her call my name, run run run, i can't stand it etc) it's Lou.
― tylerw, Monday, 9 April 2018 17:54 (six years ago) link
Sterling's solos are very different from Lou's!
― Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Monday, 9 April 2018 18:03 (six years ago) link
xpost Yeah, I was referring to the hard strummin' in the foreground...
Tom - for my reference, what are some prime examples of Sterling solos?
― absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Monday, 9 April 2018 18:04 (six years ago) link
pale blue eyes, story of my life, first solo in sister ray, foggy notion
― tylerw, Monday, 9 April 2018 18:06 (six years ago) link
Solos on Foggy Notion are immense.
― Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Monday, 9 April 2018 18:09 (six years ago) link
Thanks guys
― absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Monday, 9 April 2018 18:16 (six years ago) link
Back to the Matrix Tapes -- it's funny how, in one take of "I'm Waiting for The Man," Lou clarifies: "...that's Puerto Rican!" (after the line "He's wearing Dior shoes, and a big straw hat").
― absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Monday, 9 April 2018 19:20 (six years ago) link
I think he sings "PR shoes," hence his elucidation of the acronym
ty VU scholars for explaining SterMo vs. Lou guitar parts!
― Brad C., Monday, 9 April 2018 19:53 (six years ago) link
Whaaaat... my mind is being blown today!
― absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Monday, 9 April 2018 19:59 (six years ago) link
the "Legendary Amp Tapes" should shine some light on what Lou plays
― burzum buddies (brownie), Monday, 9 April 2018 20:00 (six years ago) link
studio 'what goes on' has the best rhythm guitar of all time. also i think lou and sterling recorded takes of the solo bit in there and decided they liked how they sounded all layered on one another. i could have made that up but it makes sense
― global tetrahedron, Monday, 9 April 2018 20:07 (six years ago) link
xpostApparently the official lyrics (© EMI Music Publishing) have it as "Beat up shoes"(!?)
― absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Monday, 9 April 2018 20:09 (six years ago) link
I found a few other ppl online saying they always thought it was "Dior shoes" (like me), but apparently we are in the extreme minority.
― absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Monday, 9 April 2018 20:11 (six years ago) link
Really ? I thought I heard it as PR shoes and finally had it clarified in a VU companion book after years of wondering what it was.Some type of special point to the shoe or something from what I remember.
― Stevolende, Monday, 9 April 2018 20:13 (six years ago) link
it's definitely p.r. shoes, lou said on several occasions, and that's what's printed in his lyrics collection.
xxxp - i think it's all just Lou on the WGO solo — he took three stabs at overdubbing it and then they decided to mix 'em all together to get that fuzzed out bagpipe sound.
― tylerw, Monday, 9 April 2018 20:15 (six years ago) link
Well, pardon me (SUH) -- I just listened back to the original album track (the one I've been listening to since I was 15)... and I agree it is, very clearly, "PR shoes"!
Here's a gtr question -- on that album track, is it Lou playing rhythm & Sterl playing lead?
― absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Monday, 9 April 2018 20:19 (six years ago) link
guys it's "see your shoes and I see your hat" and i won't be told otherwise
― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 9 April 2018 20:20 (six years ago) link
lolzi think it's sterling playing the riff on "waiting for the man"
― tylerw, Monday, 9 April 2018 20:22 (six years ago) link