Should I hold my breath or should I pay some stupid amount to buy it on ebay?
While we're at it - classic or dud?
And is the Bamboo stuff that sometimes comes with it essential?
― James Ball (James Ball), Friday, 1 November 2002 14:13 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Paul (scifisoul), Friday, 1 November 2002 15:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
― James Ball (James Ball), Friday, 1 November 2002 15:27 (twenty-one years ago) link
― steve k, Friday, 1 November 2002 16:16 (twenty-one years ago) link
― marianna, Monday, 4 November 2002 12:33 (twenty-one years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 4 April 2003 07:35 (twenty-one years ago) link
― gaz (gaz), Friday, 4 April 2003 08:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
Any sets that come with Bamboo material are bootlegs as I don't think any of that stuff has been officially released.
It's long overdue a release though as is the rereleased POB which I managed to get years ago in a Virgin sale for about £3!
― mms (mms), Friday, 4 April 2003 09:50 (twenty-one years ago) link
― gaz (gaz), Friday, 4 April 2003 09:54 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 4 April 2003 10:06 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dadaismus, Friday, 4 April 2003 12:39 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Salvador Saca (Mr. Xolotl), Thursday, 10 June 2004 16:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 10 June 2004 16:45 (nineteen years ago) link
It is and it isn't. As time passes, I find myself caring less about the moments that don't work and more about the moments that are better than anything the Beach Boys did in the 70s, which include the intro to "River Song". And yes, I just said that.
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 10 June 2004 16:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― eddie hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 10 June 2004 19:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― Beta (abeta), Thursday, 10 June 2004 19:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― duke plaint, Thursday, 10 June 2004 19:09 (nineteen years ago) link
POB is a good album, but there is definitely nothing that is even close to the quality of "Surf's Up", "Forever", "Tears In The Morning", "Take a Load Off Your Feet", "At My Window" or the brilliant "Till I Die"!
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 10 June 2004 19:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― dleone (dleone), Thursday, 10 June 2004 19:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 10 June 2004 19:20 (nineteen years ago) link
Now the Spring record? That fucking bites.
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 10 June 2004 19:40 (nineteen years ago) link
that, as i type, might be all of it. oooh. time to start listening.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 15 September 2006 22:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 15 September 2006 22:25 (seventeen years ago) link
i'm just sorting through a mass of MP3s here ... what i'm hearing sounds GREAT. too tired to do the whole thing tonight, but am very much looking forward to an early-morning listen tomorrow!
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 15 September 2006 22:28 (seventeen years ago) link
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 15 September 2006 22:29 (seventeen years ago) link
― King-a-Ling (King-a-Ling), Saturday, 16 September 2006 00:50 (seventeen years ago) link
am listening to POB right now, anyway. i think it's magnificent. so there.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Saturday, 16 September 2006 09:11 (seventeen years ago) link
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 16 September 2006 16:15 (seventeen years ago) link
p.s., seems to be fine.
― swagmus (veal), Saturday, 16 September 2006 18:05 (seventeen years ago) link
But thanks for "Listen, Dude..."-style answer. I probably deserved it.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 16 September 2006 19:40 (seventeen years ago) link
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Saturday, 16 September 2006 21:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Sunday, 17 September 2006 05:59 (seventeen years ago) link
Anything, back to Dennis...
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 17 September 2006 07:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 17 September 2006 07:09 (seventeen years ago) link
― Goth Black Socks, Icicle Rocks (Bimble...), Sunday, 17 September 2006 07:28 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ficky Stingers (Bimble...), Sunday, 17 September 2006 19:11 (seventeen years ago) link
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Sunday, 17 September 2006 21:46 (seventeen years ago) link
― jim wentworth (wench), Monday, 18 September 2006 00:46 (seventeen years ago) link
― Oh No It's Dadaismus! (Dada), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 10:45 (seventeen years ago) link
Hey thanks for that link to The Heat Warps, it's really good shit.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 7 July 2007 03:08 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003701480
― hapman, Thursday, 24 January 2008 18:49 (sixteen years ago) link
YES
― max, Thursday, 24 January 2008 18:52 (sixteen years ago) link
Awesome!
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 24 January 2008 18:53 (sixteen years ago) link
AWES AWES AWES
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 24 January 2008 18:57 (sixteen years ago) link
at last at last at laaaast
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 24 January 2008 19:03 (sixteen years ago) link
didn't even have to read the story, just saw the link & max's rxn and it was on
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 24 January 2008 19:31 (sixteen years ago) link
So excellent.
― Sparkle Motion, Thursday, 24 January 2008 20:18 (sixteen years ago) link
It's about time now it's about time now It's about time now don't you know now
― gershy, Friday, 25 January 2008 07:52 (sixteen years ago) link
Not too early.
― Geir Hongro, Friday, 25 January 2008 08:59 (sixteen years ago) link
Looks like it's too late to make any money from it then. I have the original CD issue. Cool that's it's coming with all the Bamboo tracks.
― cheasyweasel, Friday, 25 January 2008 10:02 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah, my bambu boots were abysmal, great to really hear this stuff now
― velko, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 18:15 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah the low quality of the stuff I have is kinda the only reason I may get this... not to be a broken record here but can someone post a tracklist for the reissue? I can't find one online.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 18:16 (fifteen years ago) link
Disk: 1 1. River Song 2. What's Wrong 3. Moonshine 4. Friday Night 5. Dreamer 6. Thoughts Of You 7. Time 8. You And I 9. Pacific Ocean Blues 10. Farewell My Friend 11. Rainbows 12. End Of The Show 13. Tug Of Love - Previously Unreleased 14. Only With You - Previously Unreleased 15. Holy Man - Instrumental, Previously Unreleased 16. Mexico - Previously Unreleased
Disk: 2 1. Under The Moonlight - Previously Unreleased 2. It's Not Too Late - Previously Unreleased 3. School Girl - Previously Unreleased 4. Love Remember Me - Previously Unreleased 5. Love Surrounds Me - Previously Unreleased 6. Wild Situation - Previously Unreleased 7. Common - Previously Unreleased 8. Are You Real - Previously Unreleased 9. He's A Bum - Previously Unreleased 10. Cocktails - Previously Unreleased 11. I Love You - Previously Unreleased 12. Constant Companion - Previously Unreleased 13. Time For Bed - Previously Unreleased 14. Album Tag Song - Previously Unreleased 15. All Alone - Previously Unreleased 16. Piano Variations On Thoughts Of You - Previously Unreleased 17. Holy Man - Taylor Hawkins Version
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 24 June 2008 18:18 (fifteen years ago) link
no "quad symphony"!
still, a bunch of stuff I don't have - must get then.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 18:22 (fifteen years ago) link
(thx btw)
just ordered the triple vinyl(!) from Sundazed
― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 30 June 2008 21:03 (fifteen years ago) link
there is an hour-long NPR produced special about the album playing right now on WBEZ in chicago (you can listen online):
http://www.wbez.org/Program_SS.aspx
― Stormy Davis, Monday, 7 July 2008 02:09 (fifteen years ago) link
POB and Bambu are tolerable (sometimes barely), rarely superb ("River Song")
Take all the songs Dennis contributed to the Beach Boys proper between 1968 and 1974, put them together, and you'd have an album 100 x better than either POB or Bambu.
― Mackro Mackro, Monday, 7 July 2008 02:33 (fifteen years ago) link
somewhere betwixt rong and challops
― velko, Monday, 7 July 2008 02:58 (fifteen years ago) link
velko otm
― dell, Monday, 7 July 2008 03:05 (fifteen years ago) link
lolz they excised the "erection" line out of "Wild Situation" on the reissue!
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 14 August 2008 15:56 (fifteen years ago) link
honestly with all the unreleased stuff I can kinda hear the Remain in Light comparisons - the walls of ominous synths + the odd foray into non-rock rhythms (ie, Jamaican or New Orleans funk or whatever) do make for some kind of (albeit dubious) parallel. I dunno about Kid A, I never listen to Radiohead.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 14 August 2008 15:57 (fifteen years ago) link
I haven't gotten to the disc 2 Bambu stuff yet, but POB is really, really great. And I say that as someone who could give a fuck about the Beach Boys or 70s MOR rock. That Wire review was totally off the deep end but it's not at all a straightforward record.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 25 August 2008 13:28 (fifteen years ago) link
I don't really get the POB love, so many fillers on it... Where's the love for Dennis' most devastating song, "A time to live in dreams" ? You can listen to it on that page : http://www.stephenkalinich.com/sjkdennis.html
Here's what written on the wiki page about it : "A Time to Live in Dreams" is a song written by Dennis Wilson and Stephen Kalinich. The song was first discovered in The Beach Boys tape archive around 2000. It was first released on The Beach Boys 2001 anthology album Hawthorne, CA. In December, 2000, Brian Wilson was able to hear the song for the first time and according to Alan Boyd said "Wait - I don't remember this one. What album was this done for?"[1] Later on in the song when the organ begins to play and Dennis sings the line "in this new day, change your heart, forgive your brother...", Brian sat up straight and said softly, "Wow. What a great song."
― Snowballing, Monday, 25 August 2008 13:40 (fifteen years ago) link
I picked up the MIU/LA twofer used the other day. "Angel Come Home" is great.
― C. Grisso/McCain, Monday, 25 August 2008 15:52 (fifteen years ago) link
I just got this finally. I thought I'd heard most of Bambu on a previous boot -- clearly, I hadn't.
At first blush, a lot of what makes this kind of extraordinary (and may account for the ludicrous Kid A and Remain in Light comps) is that he has zero regard for form -- or conventional form anyway. That began in some sense on POB, but really comes to the fore on Bambu Sections just pop up and rather than disappearing as they did on POB, here they just go on forever -- the REALLY long coda to "Are You Real?" and the intro to "Love Remember Me" to name just a few. There are also several deeply weird textural things going on -- the backwards choral stuff on "I Love You" is almost hard to explain it's so oddly put in the mix (with the intro to the next song, given how the CD is sequenced, even Dennis says at the conclusion of "I Love You": "Weird!").
At any rate, even for someone who thought he had a lot of this, this is a great package.
― Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 18 September 2008 04:02 (fifteen years ago) link
Also worth adding that this includes an outstanding version of "Only With You" (which is on here for no reason I can discern, unless it was supposed to be on POB, but the liners don't say that).
― Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 18 September 2008 13:16 (fifteen years ago) link
Also, it should be said that "Holy Man" is every bit the stone cold classic all the fanboys said it was. Even with the vocal by Taylor Hawkins instead of Denny, it's a great, great song.
― Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 20 September 2008 01:39 (fifteen years ago) link
lolz I got the OOP "The Real Beach Boy" bio of Dennis for my birthday.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 20 October 2008 23:47 (fifteen years ago) link
I think that's the book I read several years ago -- if it is, it includes this amazing story at the end where some guy details this RIDICULOUS day he spent with Dennis that sounded like a microcosm of the dude's crazy beautiful life.
― Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 01:18 (fifteen years ago) link
if yr referring to "young musician/fan spends day doing tons of coke with Dennis and his pals and then WHOAH Brian shows up and he's a big fat mess and they play the piano and do more coke!!" ... yeah that story is in there.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 15:58 (fifteen years ago) link
I don't remember Brian showing up. But the first part sounds about right!
― Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 16:32 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm almost through the end - its a pretty trashy/breezy read but there's been some interesting stuff I didn't know about in it.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 16:41 (fifteen years ago) link
The Love Remember Me Love Surrounds Me 1-2 punch on Bambu is so devastating. <3 christine mcvie's backing vocals on the latter.
i also love Time For Bed because it's drunken bleariness is the aural equivalent of how I imagine the last few years of his life played out
― velko, Wednesday, 22 July 2009 18:36 (fourteen years ago) link
ouch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCe-K6NiTm8
― go Nick go! Scrub that paint! Scrub it!! Yeah!! (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 28 August 2009 16:35 (fourteen years ago) link
Can't open that YouTube, Shakey. The other Beach Boys said something bad/dismissive about Dennis Wilson?
― Daniel, Esq., Friday, 28 August 2009 16:41 (fourteen years ago) link
nah they're all there, but Dennis can't even keep his head up/sit up/sit still and is obviously blitzed out of his mind. kinda amazed this aired to be honest
― go Nick go! Scrub that paint! Scrub it!! Yeah!! (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 28 August 2009 16:42 (fourteen years ago) link
What a talented guy, but what a sad story and life. It all feeds into my "rockist" tendencies, I think (Wilson is the tormented, confessional songwriter who never got his due).
― Daniel, Esq., Friday, 28 August 2009 16:47 (fourteen years ago) link
I really can't stand this album.
― post-contrarian meta-challop 2009 (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 28 August 2009 16:47 (fourteen years ago) link
I mean, the guy's voice was blown.
― post-contrarian meta-challop 2009 (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 28 August 2009 16:48 (fourteen years ago) link
You mean Pacific Ocean Blue?!?
― Daniel, Esq., Friday, 28 August 2009 16:48 (fourteen years ago) link
I actually see his strained voice as part of the appeal. I feel the same way about some late Billie Holiday (e.g., Lady in Satin).
― Daniel, Esq., Friday, 28 August 2009 16:50 (fourteen years ago) link
Not in the least appealing. Listening to this last summer was a real shock; I thought it'd be at least okay. I mean, if you're going to play studio-rock, then please hire a real singer if you can't hit the notes.
― post-contrarian meta-challop 2009 (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 28 August 2009 16:51 (fourteen years ago) link
De gustibus non est disputandum. (And not meant in a snarky way).
― Daniel, Esq., Friday, 28 August 2009 16:53 (fourteen years ago) link
It's ok if you did!
― post-contrarian meta-challop 2009 (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 28 August 2009 16:53 (fourteen years ago) link
lol. We're all jaded enough, already.
― Daniel, Esq., Friday, 28 August 2009 16:54 (fourteen years ago) link
wtf there are plenty of people singing on this album who are not Dennis (Carl, the gospel choir on the first song, etc.), and I like his gruff voice for the most part
― go Nick go! Scrub that paint! Scrub it!! Yeah!! (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 28 August 2009 16:57 (fourteen years ago) link
I could never get into it either, but I don't mind the vocals.
My problem with this is that I got Wolfking of LA at the same time, and that just blew me away - and gave me the californian fuckup fading star fix I needed. They're totally different records, I know. Just unfairly connected in my mind.
I should give Dennis another shot maybe.
― Brio, Friday, 28 August 2009 17:54 (fourteen years ago) link
it is possible to love both records
― velko, Friday, 28 August 2009 17:58 (fourteen years ago) link
of course! just hasn't worked out for me that way yet.
― Brio, Friday, 28 August 2009 18:20 (fourteen years ago) link
dennis wilson is sort of like judee sill in that every song seems weirdly the same, not in a repetitive way but just that the same obsessions are so upfront and overwhelming every time.
― velko, Friday, 28 August 2009 18:27 (fourteen years ago) link
holy crap! just found out that carl was in my dad's church and that he was really close with him. went to their shows, hung out at parties. my dad was even the lawyer on his divorce. carl asked my dad to represent the wife (who he was close with also) because carl wanted her to get everything she deserved. my mom went on a platonic dinner date w/him and she sat in on a recording session!! and they met brian and dennis, dennis came to the church once, but hid in corner, too many "secrets" to hide. dad says dennis was the most beautiful man he'd ever met. i yelled at them "why didn't you tell me this before?!"
― jaxon, Saturday, 29 August 2009 00:07 (fourteen years ago) link
wow, get more details and pass it on
― velko, Saturday, 29 August 2009 00:20 (fourteen years ago) link
alfred u are NUTS
― butthurt (deej), Saturday, 29 August 2009 08:22 (fourteen years ago) link
his voice is 100% part of the appeal
― butthurt (deej), Saturday, 29 August 2009 08:23 (fourteen years ago) link
i love blasting this song while i'm driving around la
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMHiYrnYx64
― velko, Saturday, 29 August 2009 08:43 (fourteen years ago) link
got this today. is it bad if on first listen I like the Bambu sessions better than POB (though I do like that one too)?
― Phoenix in Flight (Cattle Grind), Saturday, 17 April 2010 21:06 (fourteen years ago) link
my favorite song is on the bambu sessions (it's not too late) and i adore POB.
― Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 17 April 2010 21:09 (fourteen years ago) link
"It's Not Too Late" is gutting. the desperation just drips from his voice on that one.
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Sunday, 22 March 2015 16:28 (nine years ago) link
Returning to this reissue this week as my car can only play CDs for the moment and I pulled this out.
There are really only a few songs in POB proper that sound purely 70s MOR – "What's Wrong," "You and I" and maybe one or two others. The rest tend toward really plodding, heavy orchestration, peculiar textural choices (such as the bass harmonicas and blaring brass on "Dreamer") and modal chord voicings that create something that is both bombastic and delicate – often at the same time. There is also an undeniable alcoholic sentimentality slathering almost everything here.
So I understand if this record isn't for everyone. Some may find it scattered or unremarkable. But for my part, I love its singularity and shamelessly big hearted and ramshackle nature – qualities I think aren't so much enhanced by the Bambu stuff as underscored.
― Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 23 March 2017 13:24 (seven years ago) link