An ILX roundtable discussion of Beyonce's Lemonade for people who don't feel like listening to it right now.

I happen to love lemonade. What I really LOVE though is Paul Newman's limeade mixed with ginger ale. You should really try that sometime.

Thoughts?

I prefer limearita

also, is there ANYTHING Beyonce can't do? for instance, do you think she could pitch a perfect game? or a bowl a googly?

also, is there anyone who can produce such cataclysmic and monumental releases that fade so easily from memory?

without looking, what was the name of her last album? hint: it rhymes with her first name.

true or false: If Beyonce were a boy she would have a halo and disappear and be the broken-hearted girl in heaven singing ave maria to the satellites.

i actually made some thyme-vanilla lemonade the same day that beyoncé's new album came not. coincidence?

lemonade is such a gift. kinda like bey gis kno-car. i love them both. and i DO love the queen of the world, but i feel like i need extra stamina to watch 14 deluxe videos of machine-tooled precision agit bey-pop. and i just watched a 20 minute live version of purple rain! maybe tomorrow. actually i don't know how to watch the videos. maybe they are on Crackle...

seriously though, this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vCS_iKITCY

http://i5.walmartimages.com/dfw/dce07b8c-2d89/k2-_98067d56-cec7-4cdd-a9fa-adaf8ebd275f.v1.jpg

peach arnold palmers with grenadine.

Do you guys like salty lemonade? Great after a workout or when it's really hot imo.

I was just about to make a glass but I don't trust the only lemon that was in my fridge now.:(

having ginger lemon tea atm, though i think it might be lemongrass and not lemon ... can you substitute one for the other in some recipes? like in soups?

apricot la croix is the best

calamansi juice is the shit

I had no idea a half lemonade/half iced tea was called an Arnold Palmer until this year. Honest Tea makes that and it's really, really good, not nearly as sweet as Snapple's version. I bought Snapple's diet version once and it was horrible, like drinking a glass of wet Sweet-N-Lo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdLvp630plc

beyonce has never written anything this good or meaningful

i can't believe that lemonade credits sugar in the ingredients list. when you think of the history of sugar and how it tastes, that's a huge statement.

last lemonade i saw didn't credit sugar but credited aspartame instead! which is so daring and funny, really - the artificial sweetener industry won't recover from this slight i'm sure

omg! she is the best! WELL DONE TO BEYONCE! i just want to pat her on the head!!!

this thread is a safe space for people who haven't heard the beyonce album, obviously

Or any Beyonce album.

Omg that "Purple Rain" clip.

They sell that Honest Tea stuff on campus. It's pleasant, definitely better than Snapple or Arizona.

Yeah, Snapple and Arizona taste so ridiculously sweet to me now, since 90 percent of the time I drink Pure Leaf unsweetened black tea.

i still haven't listened to Lemonade yet, but while making dinner last night i listened to Hyaena by Siouxsie and the Banshees and all i can say is wow what a record! i mean i've been listening to it since 1984 but it never fails to amaze. who on earth could make a record like THAT in 2016?? also, "blow the house down" is mad underrated.

last great siouxsie album? a controversial statement, but it could very well be.

thoughts?

also, is there anyone who can produce such cataclysmic and monumental releases that fade so easily from memory?

I kind of want to talk about this. I'm pretty sure I've heard the last several Beyonce records but, like, Traffic and Blind Faith and a couple of other acts, I just can't recall how any of them go, at least not since "Single Ladies." Even the last one, which had "Drunk in Love," right? People said they heard it a million times, but I don't think I've ever heard it out and about! And I certainly can't hum it now. Did it get played on the radio? In clubs? Because I have kids, and they listen to radio pop, and they never talk about Beyonce the way they seem to know, say, Nicki Minaj or Rihanna or Selena Gomez or Demi Lovato. A bunch of buddies bought tickets to see Beyonce this May. I gave my wife the OK, but I decided to stay home. I've seen Beyonce before and don't remember a darn thing about it, and as much as people rave about her live, it seems to still follow the standard song-dance-costume change pattern of arena pop. It kind of makes me feel bad to be the killjoy. I'm not even sure her singing has made an impression on me, but my wife knows people who have worked with her, and they said her skin is so beautiful she barely needs makeup.

Anyway, I really liked Siouxsie's "Kiss Them for Me" single. Was that album any good? I liked the "Batman" song, too, but I don't think I ever really got into any Banshees albums.

Beyonce's not played much outside R&B radio these days.

Ha, so much for "post-genre" or whatever.

So strange, listening to the s/t now, and even though I'm sure I've heard it before, it's like I've never heard it before! Anyway, sounds good. Good job, Beyonce.

I haven't heard this album but I finally listened to "Formation"

the radio where i live sucks soooooooooo bad. it's the worst ever. we were driving thru springfield a little bit ago and we picked up some hartford station that was playing awesome pop/r&b and it was so hot and i was like omg we have to move to hartford! or springfield! and then i was like fuck that i'm not doing that but i miss that station so much.

Is "Haven't heard Beyonce's Lemonade yet" a condition that I could put down when I sign up for a comfort animal?

prob 93.7 xp

beyonce has never written anything this good or meaningful

― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Tuesday, April 26, 2016 6:24 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm pretty sure you posted the wrong link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6Q4s_ZdvAQ

flipping through the radio dial in the car where i am is like this: commercial/journey/NPfuckinR/katy perry/shitty country/fuzak/kings of leon/journey/shit country/arcade fire/katy perry/fuckin' terry gross/all about the bass bout that bass no treble/journey/endless country list song/van hagar/commercial.

I think I just hit "Drunk In Love," and nope, never heard it! Wait, have I heard "Hotline Bling?" Or any Drake? OK, I'm going to check that out now.

Hmm why is youtube suddenly delivering all my commercials en espanol? OK, anyway, I've heard people sing "Hotline Bling," but I don't think I've ever heard it! At least not all the way through, and not now. OK, Drake's "Take Care" album, skipping around ... no, I guess I never listened to this either. Sounds OK, though. What were the singles, "Headlines" and "Make Me Proud?" No, nothing, don't think I've heard them. What was his first album, "Thank Me Later?" OK, skipping around... "Over" and "Find Me Later" the first two singles? OK, they sound OK, but never heard them, either! Clearly this is my problem, not his. I don't think I've ever heard Fall Out Boy, and I live in Chicago.

OK, back to Beyonce.

We have satellite radio and the kids like Hits (self-explanatory) and Venus ("rhythmic pop"). The latter in particular seems like it would play Beyonce, but I'm not so sure. I think to hear her I need to listen to "The Heat" ("today's hottest R&B hits"). I really like satellite radio, I like that I can easily flit from extreme metal to old school hip-hop.

Josh, I dunno what you're listening to but "Hotline Bling" was the most popular song in the country for months. I was hearing it three times a day at least.

I know, it's nuts! So weird to me that I missed it.

Maybe I've been doing more reading than watching or listening, because none of these have passed me by. I know they're popular, and I know the artists, and I know the memes ... Whatever. It's not like I go through life with a big sad Beyonce or Drake sized hole in my soul. I'll deal.

i feel like this record is probably good because her last one was good and so was formation but the hyperbole is out of control

i'm really grossed out by the beyonce fans who are harrassing jay-z's alleged mistress (and her teenage daughter!) online. the whole gossip-blogs-the-musical component of this just feels tawdry. she should just divorce jay-z or whatever, it's pretty obvious he's a conceited asshole.

Wow. Now that gossip stuff, I've missed that and am happy to miss it. I am liking the s/t a lot, though, at least in preparation for the new album. Maybe it just didn't click with me at the time, but it sounds great this morning.

Beyonce's not played much outside R&B radio these days.
my wife and i were just saying last night that the 2 R&B stations out here (denver area) never seem to play Beyonce! and that's pretty much what we listen to in the car... seems weird.

So I'm not crazy?

i was never really a jay-z fan. he's kinda after my time and that might have something to do with it. kinda like when people a little younger than me talk about how much they loved sick of it all. i liked those jaz records that jay-z was on. that's more my era. (though i do love lots of 90's rap...just never listened to jay-z that much. or biggie. i still listen to illmatic to this day though...)

I never could remember the difference between Sick of It All and Biohazard.

i can't believe on a thread about lemonade we end up discussing a massively famous music singer.

can't we discuss lemonade for once???

waht's the best lemon booze drink? i love lemons so much.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrZ3nBbFaIc

On 26 April 1997, American television network ABC aired a one-hour prime time special about Pop and the PopMart Tour, titled U2: A Year in Pop. Narrated by actor Dennis Hopper, the documentary featured footage from the Pop recording sessions, as well as live footage from the opening PopMart show in Whitney, which took place the night before.The program received poor reception, ranking at 101 out of 107 programs aired that week, according to Nielsen ratings, and became the lowest rated non-political documentary in the history of the ABC network.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LBGi69xtYA

is everyone's favorite "rock" song by a huge non-rock pop star "black cat"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBRTauJ6I1E

xpost Yeah, En Vogue could rock, too. I don't like Black Cat, but it's better than Dirty Diana, I think. Did Madonna have any big guitar song I'm forgetting?

"Beautiful Stranger" might be as far as she went.

Ray of fkn Light!

For a second I was all "what about the one Madonna song that sounded like Smack My Bitch Up?" But then I realized I was thinking of Smack My Bitch Up. Whose video of course was made with the same director as Ray of Light. And Prodigy was on Maverick.

http://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/prince-cecil-taylor-and-beyonces-shape-shifting-black-body

should I read this? can someone read it for me and tell me, I just don't know.

Since Prince's death, I've been going online and seeing things that I want to click on but something keeps stopping me.

I haven't been able to read more than a couple of tributes, I don't have the energy to go and search out Lemonade or read the 1231435 Beyonce thinkpieces, I haven't seen the new Game of Thrones or Veep episodes. it's just... so many goddamn OPINIONS.

I need a break so badly but I'm stuck compulsively scrolling through twitter and facebook all day, mostly because it's part of my job but also out of sheer habit.

first Game of Thrones episode wasn't all that exciting. I watched that post show talk thing with the people who think they are funny but are about as entertaining as local news anchors. That was less entertaining than the episode.

Eye have no desire 2 listen 2 Lemonade, and eye probably never will. Besides, life is 2 short 2 listen 2 a concept record about a pair 'o' cunts that eye could not be any less interested in.

should I read this? can someone read it for me and tell me, I just don't know.

It's pretty dumb. Skip it.

bless you, scott

On 26 April 1997, American television network ABC aired a one-hour prime time special about Pop and the PopMart Tour, titled U2: A Year in Pop. Narrated by actor Dennis Hopper, the documentary featured footage from the Pop recording sessions, as well as live footage from the opening PopMart show in Whitney, which took place the night before.The program received poor reception, ranking at 101 out of 107 programs aired that week, according to Nielsen ratings, and became the lowest rated non-political documentary in the history of the ABC network.

I saw it! On a Saturday night too.

xpost Yeah, En Vogue could rock, too. I don't like Black Cat, but it's better than Dirty Diana, I think. Did Madonna have any big guitar song I'm forgetting?

― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, April 26, 2016 8:47 PM

"Candy Perfume Girl"

http://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/prince-cecil-taylor-and-beyonces-shape-shifting-black-body

this headline and article seems like maybe it was produced using "black musician madlibs"

I'm not that familiar with Hilton Als' writing, but I've now read two jazz-related pieces by him this month (that one and the Pitchfork interview with Sonny Rollins), and neither impressed me.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_-aVxEar0TX8/TJYsuc4Zl-I/AAAAAAAACik/ADh_jC9N9cQ/s1600/cover6188-copy.jpg

what's up w/ pink lemonade?

He's a Pulitzer finalist for criticism this year. Been writing about race and gender for a few decades, but more focused on literature/performance more than pop culture.

It's possibly quite gross

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/10/why-is-lemonade-pink_n_1503570.html

looking forward to the first hamburger blogger to win a pulitzer

the hambloggler

Some people assume that there are red-colored berries responsible for this oddity

Ha, it never occurred to me to think that pink lemonade was pink because of anything other than a dye.

Here it is:
http://www.latimes.com/food/dailydish/la-dd-jonathan-gold-hamburgers-los-angeles-story-story.html

that blogger who wrote about the designer chocolate fraud people should for real get a Pulitzer! that shit was riveting. especially the original posts he did on the Texas chocolatier fraudsters. the one before the mast brothers bombshell. although the mast brothers one was good too. he should win for that.

I was kinda crazy about Destiny's Child back in the day and was all about solo Bey but then I've just realized that I haven't listened to an entire album of hers since B'Day. And I even bought the one that she released really cheap that one time. What, the fourth one? I don't know. I chalk my lapse up more to my near-complete disengagement from pop music over the past decade than anything personal against Ms. Knowles-Z.

it's all starting to feel like homework

Iggy Azalea: Rapper Criticizes 'Becky' Lyric on Beyoncé's 'Lemonade' Album
"Generalizing ANY race by calling them one sterotypical name for said race. i personally dont think is very cool, the end," Azalea tweeted

Trump/Azalea '16

http://i.imgur.com/0EiSRel.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N387gr-Vr4

i used to love lemonade but true story on saturday i drove by a lemonade stand some kids were selling it so i bought a tiny plastic cup of lemonade for a dollar and so help me god i have been vomiting and pooping ever since, it is so nasty to be me right now and i think i may have dysentery so lemonade is not my thing right now

my son had a lemonade stand the day after this album dropped in commemoration of it. kind of. actually it was more because we were able to steal 30 lemons off the tree at the house next door which is empty for the time being.

I ran a stand a couple times -- didn't really learn "hard work" but I did get introduced to the concepts of expenses, revenue, profit, like a little lightbulb went on that we spent a certain amount on the ingredients and needed to subtract that out of what we made.

Basically it was economically empowering. I slay.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcKG4EJ6rsQ

Not that excited about this new album but really looking forward to the follow-up, 'Round The Corner Fudge Is Made.

awful but I keep thinking about that too

the lemonade stand was great, he and his friend made $12 which they split evenly. My son decided that when the lemonade was 3/4 gone they should raise the price of what was left; he stumbled on the basics of scarcity in economics on his own at age 10. he didn't move forward on this capitalist scheme though. also he charged our dog 25 cents for a tiny peanut butter muffin they were also selling.

Eye don't no about anyone else but if eye was 2 find a "formation" in my lemonade, U can bet eye'd throw that shit away!

25c for a peanut butter muffin is a steal, especially if you're a dog and it makes your whole day. Score one for capitalism!

When I learned that there were other lemonade stands in the neighborhood I required customers to sign an exclusive subscriber agreement.

A quarter is like a buck seventy-five in dog dollars tho.

dog was pretty happy. she shoved the whole thing in her mouth and ate it even though it was scalding hot. she paused momentarily like, "is this a good idea?" then decided it was.

hilton als is great but i'm not as into his pop music writing

Lemonade by Peyoncé

Diana Ross, Sun Ra and Fetty Wap

Do you guys like salty lemonade? Great after a workout or when it's really hot imo.

So it turns out that using some coconut water (approx 1/3?) is the key to perfection with this.