The sun shines within your POLL: Rufus Wainwright - s/t (1998)

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Appearances on family projects/tributes aside, I haven't listened to a thing this guy has done since his second album, but I played this one to death back when it was new. Throwing it on for the first time in ages last night, it still sounds completely fresh and unique to me. As much of an acquired taste as his voice and persona may be, I think it found its ideal setting among that ornate, yet playful, Jon Brion/Pierre Marchand production.

"April Fools" was the hit, but what's your fave?

Poll Results

OptionVotes
April Fools 6
Foolish Love 2
Danny Boy 2
Damned Ladies 1
Matinee Idol 1
Beauty Mark 1
Baby 0
Barcelona 0
Millbrook 0
In My Arms 0
Sally Ann 0
Imaginary Love 0


rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Saturday, 14 May 2016 15:01 (seven years ago) link

I think the album has 4 or 5 standouts, but "Beauty Mark," a charming tribute to his mom in both lyric and spirit, remains my sentimental fave.

rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Saturday, 14 May 2016 15:05 (seven years ago) link

the demos (on the House Of Rufus box set from some years ago) of these songs were incredible. Danny Boy and Beauty Mark especially.

you haven't heard Want One?? i'd rectify that at all speed.

piscesx, Saturday, 14 May 2016 15:28 (seven years ago) link

I think this guy's undeniable talent was constricted by all the money thrown at him in the late '90s; some of the solid, intelligent tunes are buried beneath the production. I also have to make considerable allowances for his voice.

But I've got fond memories of this thing. I bought it the same month I came out. "April Fools," "Beauty Mark," "Matinee Idol," "Foolish Love" still get me. And "Imaginary Love" is my favorite of his closers.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 14 May 2016 16:11 (seven years ago) link

yeah you're definitely right about the tunes getting buried. they fixed that on later albums IMO.

i had a weird experience with this. late '98 in Manchester i got mugged and had a bunch of newly-purchased clothes and jewellery and CDs in a bag swiped out of my hand 2 days before Xmas. this album was also in the mugger's haul. went out and bought it again a few weeks later still having never heard it. certainly the first and last time i ever bought an album not once but twice that i didn't know anything about.
saw him live about 6 times in the next few years and was obsessed for a while. this 30 second commercial was literally all i knew of him and it made me buy the debut unheard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1idhwIW_n4

piscesx, Saturday, 14 May 2016 17:00 (seven years ago) link

i went directly to poses and feel like i've been unable to crack this record as a result. it's a little too much. however i never feel more gay than when i'm listening to "april fools," so that one

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Saturday, 14 May 2016 17:02 (seven years ago) link

Just bought the vinyl reissues of this and Poses last week. He definitely made better records than this but I still get a lot out of it.

Voting for April Fools which is still one of my favourite songs he's ever done.

Kitchen Person, Saturday, 14 May 2016 17:05 (seven years ago) link

Poses is the better record. That tour is still one of the funnest, funniest shows I've attended.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 14 May 2016 17:07 (seven years ago) link

A boy I fancied asked me if I wanted to go to a RW concert and I wasn't very familiar, but he lent me <I>Poses</I> and I was hooked enough to go and buy <I>Want One</I>, and never really got into the S/T as a result, like Brad. He didn't fancy me, he just thought I'd have a nice time. Which I did.

I guess "Matinee Idol" though which is a porn film title, because of course it is.

oh, boy, .GIF! That's where I'm a Viking! (edwardo), Saturday, 14 May 2016 17:08 (seven years ago) link

My order would go

Want One
Poses
Rufus Wainwright
Want Two

Don't really rate anything after those. Going To A Town is possibly my favourite Rufus song but Release The Stars is one of the most disappointing albums I've ever bought by someone I love. I still think he could have become huge with that album if it had been better.

Kitchen Person, Saturday, 14 May 2016 17:13 (seven years ago) link

wasn't that album his biggest seller in the UK?

whoa -- had no idea Neil Tennant co-produced

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 14 May 2016 17:13 (seven years ago) link

It was his highest charting album but I kind of think it sold well on hype at first. He was getting play on Radio 2 and made some big TV show appearances which helped it go in at number two but it quickly fell out the charts. His profile was the highest it had ever been then. If he'd had an album as strong as Want One then he could have been much bigger. It needed a few more songs like 14th Street or I Don't Know What It Is on it.

Kitchen Person, Saturday, 14 May 2016 17:18 (seven years ago) link

Neil Tennant said something along the lines, that he just popped into the studio to listen back to songs and said "sounds good" and left.

Kitchen Person, Saturday, 14 May 2016 17:19 (seven years ago) link

apparently Chris Lowe didn't pop in, check out Wainwright's wardrobe, and say, "Needs work."

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 14 May 2016 17:26 (seven years ago) link

yeah RTS is crappy. Out Of The Game was/is a bit of a return to form.

piscesx, Saturday, 14 May 2016 17:27 (seven years ago) link

Poses has a beautiful title song, and the name-check of Bea Arthur made me laugh at the time (gays refing Golden Girls didn't seem to be as much of a thing in 2001 yet) but it felt like an attempt to sand off some of his quirks in a way that struck me as disappointing after the debut. Most people that I knew at the time seemed to prefer Poses, though.

rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Saturday, 14 May 2016 17:42 (seven years ago) link

"One Many Guy" and "Shadows" are aces.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 14 May 2016 17:48 (seven years ago) link

haha: "One MAN Guy"

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 14 May 2016 17:48 (seven years ago) link

This one's still his best, most consistent and cohesive front to back.

vmajestic, Saturday, 14 May 2016 18:36 (seven years ago) link

I voted "Danny Boy." I love the delayed gratification of how long it takes to get to the chorus.

I wish he'd work with Van Dyke Parks again…

goodoldneon, Saturday, 14 May 2016 18:38 (seven years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Sunday, 22 May 2016 00:01 (seven years ago) link

great album. have to go with "foolish love", the opening line is so classic.

haven't really cared for anything else he's done, i think the van dyke parks type sound really worked splendidly.

lute bro (brimstead), Sunday, 22 May 2016 00:10 (seven years ago) link

"beauty mark" is great too..

lute bro (brimstead), Sunday, 22 May 2016 00:12 (seven years ago) link

voted for "April Fools" cuz who am I kidding

bunny slopes, Sunday, 22 May 2016 07:15 (seven years ago) link

At 15 yrs old, "Danny Boy" caused me a dangerous surfeit of feels.

"In My Arms" probably next.

Tim F, Sunday, 22 May 2016 08:28 (seven years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Monday, 23 May 2016 00:01 (seven years ago) link

Now I wish I'd voted for "Millbrook." That's probably my second favorite.

goodoldneon, Monday, 23 May 2016 02:17 (seven years ago) link

You will believe in love

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 May 2016 02:25 (seven years ago) link

Imaginary Love 0

:/

piscesx, Monday, 23 May 2016 22:35 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, that definitely deserved a few votes. Hard to argue with that top three though. This sis a good album but it is very front-loaded.

Kitchen Person, Monday, 23 May 2016 22:37 (seven years ago) link

is not sis obviously

Kitchen Person, Monday, 23 May 2016 22:37 (seven years ago) link

His sis has not made any good albums

goodoldneon, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 00:01 (seven years ago) link

I really liked Martha's first album. Saw her live around the time it came out and she was great.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 00:33 (seven years ago) link

great album. have to go with "foolish love", the opening line is so classic.

haven't really cared for anything else he's done, i think the van dyke parks type sound really worked splendidly.


Missed this but exactly where I'm at.

Brion's production was aces as well.

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 01:12 (seven years ago) link

Also, I saw him in Austin when this came out. Martha opened for him. She was pretty good IIRC. He was fine but an absolutely insufferable personality on stage.

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 01:13 (seven years ago) link

i LOVE this album, sorry i missed the poll. saw him as an opening act just after the album came out and it ended up being one of my favorite records as a sullen 16-year-old.

a goon shaped tool (some dude), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 01:22 (seven years ago) link

can't argue with the results although "Millbrook" and "Sally Ann" are my favorites of the ones that got zero votes.

a goon shaped tool (some dude), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 01:23 (seven years ago) link

He was fine but an absolutely insufferable personality on stage.

oh c'mon, i saw him several times around '98-01 and if you like Paul Lynde, ya gotta like Roofie

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 01:44 (seven years ago) link

woulda voted "April Fools" of course, possibly "Matinee Idol" second

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 01:46 (seven years ago) link

should've voted for "Imaginary Love."

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 01:52 (seven years ago) link

yeah the couple times i saw him live i thought he was a ham and perhaps more drunk than he should've been but generally a good entertainer

a goon shaped tool (some dude), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 01:58 (seven years ago) link

when I saw him in early '02 he was out of his head but a total delight. He opened with "Grey Gardens" and closed iirc with "One Man Guy," which had excellent Martha W and Teddy Thompson harmonies.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 02:04 (seven years ago) link

seven years pass...

man... if barcelona just cut out most of minutes 2-5 it would be a really great song in his catalog. sadly, it meanders for a few minutes and kills it. that opening/closing melody is achingly gorgeous tho.

nobody respects the chair (Spottie), Thursday, 27 July 2023 18:23 (nine months ago) link

Make sure I have all my papers
Laying out my summer clothes
Search for traps in vain like scratching
So my suitcase I can close
Fuggi Regal Fantasima

nobody respects the chair (Spottie), Thursday, 27 July 2023 18:28 (nine months ago) link


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