Have you seen Junior's grades?! ILM Artist Poll #75 - VAN HALEN (Results thread)

Jump video is about the most restrained DLR video I've seen yet. Probably the first time I saw him in action. VH was a radio band for me prior to that.

Really hoped "Atomic Punk," "On Fire" and "And The Cradle Will Rock" would be higher - all top 5 for me. My top 5 all pretty much were fighting for #1 - which I eventually gave to "Atomic Punk."

I don't dislike it, but I don't understand the adoration for "I'll Wait." The keyboard sound is pretty tacky.

I didn't vote for "Jump," but I do love the video. DLR with his Candice Bergen hair and Eddie's non-stop smile win me over every time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5txwFv-zYM

5. RUNNIN' WITH THE DEVIL
(Van Halen; 1978) 527 points | 21 votes | 2 first place votes

rest of the list beginning to clarify, i.e. it's "right now" four times right

Right Right Right Right Now

"I'll Wait" was my #1: Possibly the greatest New Wave move by a dinosaur band--it's their version of "The Model", and how can that not rule?

*throb*

A dinosaur band who were seven years into their recording career?

*throb*

― home organ, Tuesday, May 24, 2016

^^^ imagine Van Halen covering Janet Jackson.

The album's original release credits all songs to Edward Van Halen, Alex Van Halen, Michael Anthony and David Lee Roth.(citation needed) The label on the UK single release for "I'll Wait" (catalog #W9213) credited Michael McDonald as a co-writer, but he was not credited on the US version of the single (catalog #7-29307).(citation needed)

Songs from this album which appeared on compilations released after a royalty renegotiation with the band's label Warner Bros. (Best Of – Volume I, 1996) and a lawsuit brought by Roth (during the preparations for The Best of Both Worlds compilation, 2004),[citation needed] were credited to Edward Van Halen, Alex Van Halen and David Lee Roth, with Michael Anthony's name removed from the credits, as evident in the end song credits of the 2007 film Superbad. Subsequently, Anthony has been removed from all songwriting credits on the 1984 album.

The ASCAP entry for "I'll Wait" lists Michael McDonald as co-writer with Roth and the Van Halens. Like many bands starting out on their career, Van Halen shared songwriting credit equally between all members (including guitar instrumentals, which were clearly composed only by Eddie), but subsequent claims would lend credibility to the view that all songs were entirely or predominantly written by Eddie Van Halen and David Lee Roth, with little input from Van Halen's rhythm section.

In 2004, Roth discovered that the rest of the band had renegotiated a more preferential royalty rate with Warner Bros. for all releases made during his time as lead singer, giving them a royalty rate five times greater than his(5) This was later rectified.

"I'll Wait" doesn't sound new wave to me -- it sounds like a rock band with syncopated synth.

Yeah. it's no more new wave than Foreigner's "Urgent."

what caused michael anthony's excommunication?

I don't understand the politics of songwriting credits. So does that decision mean Alex VH and Michael Anthony were paid no royalties after a certain point or at the beginning they got credit and no royalties?

what caused michael anthony's excommunication?

― mookieproof

he always looked unhealthy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAktV72_nnE

4. EVERYBODY WANTS SOME!!
(Women and Children First; 1980) 577 points | 23 votes

It looks like at the beginning, the formative years with DLR, they got credit and royalties, like a 4-way split, but that arrangement has been since revised.

Possibly the greatest New Wave move by a dinosaur band

See the album Eliminator. Checkmate.

what caused michael anthony's excommunication?

He went on tour with Hagar.

Just because a song is split four ways, it does not necessarily mean the splits are an equal 25%

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Van Halen in no way a dinosaur band in 1984. I'll Wait has keyboards, and has an 80s-style chord progression a la Eye of the Tiger or something, but if Survivor had actually been the band behind it, it wouldn't have been half as good. Van Halen had a unique style, which was very much vital back then -- nothing to do w New Wave, everything to do w playing hard rock with hooks that wasn't hair metal, and was loved by old classic rock dinosaurs and young'uns alike.

haha, wish I'd have voted in this, because I'm way more familiar with VH than I thought I was, just by virtue of being around

There's synths on Fair Warning, by which point their first album was, what, three years old or something?

Jump video is about the most restrained DLR video I've seen yet. Probably the first time I saw him in action. VH was a radio band for me prior to that.

― Zachary Taylor, Tuesday, May 24, 2016 5:16 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Always love how he doesn't lip-sync "Hey you!" and does lip-sync "Who said that?!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojNrj-sWfpk

3. UNCHAINED
(Fair Warning; 1981) 636 points | 23 votes | 3 first place votes

panama vs. ain't talkin bout love

a choice that's rotten to the co-ahhh

It's a great track, but nowhere near my favourite on that LP.

Full results after I post #1 and #2, but here's some neat charts nate made...

POINTS BY ALBUM

http://i.imgur.com/ALBcWJ6.png

POINTS BY SINGER

http://i.imgur.com/uuauOGP.png

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-NshzYK9y0

2. PANAMA
(1984; 1984) 663 points | 23 votes | 4 first place votes

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olAaTz9fBoM

1. AIN'T TALKIN' 'BOUT LOVE
(Van Halen; 1978) 711 points | 22 votes | 8 first place votes

82. BLACK AND BLUE
(OU812; 1988) 10 points | 1 votes | 0 first place votes
81. ONE FOOT OUT THE DOOR
(Fair Warning; 1981) 10 points | 1 votes | 0 first place votes
80. TORA! TORA!
(Women and Children First; 1980) 10 points | 1 votes | 0 first place votes
79. AS IS
(A Different Kind of Truth; 2012) 11 points | 1 votes | 0 first place votes
78. BULLETHEAD
(A Different Kind of Truth; 2012) 11 points | 1 votes | 0 first place votes
77. VOODOO QUEEN (WARNER DEMO)
(; ) 11 points | 1 votes | 0 first place votes
76. HUMANS BEING
(Twister OST; 1996) 12 points | 1 votes | 0 first place votes
75. SHE'S THE WOMAN (DEMO)
(; ) 12 points | 1 votes | 0 first place votes
74. SUNDAY AFTERNOON IN THE PARK
(Fair Warning; 1981) 12 points | 1 votes | 0 first place votes
73. FOOLS
(Women and Children First; 1980) 13 points | 1 votes | 0 first place votes
72. MAN ON A MISSION
(For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge; 1991) 13 points | 1 votes | 0 first place votes
71. YOU AND YOUR BLUES
(A Different Kind of Truth; 2012) 13 points | 1 votes | 0 first place votes
70. BOTTOMS UP!
(Van Halen II; 1979) 14 points | 1 votes | 0 first place votes
69. THE FULL BUG
(Diver Down; 1982) 14 points | 1 votes | 0 first place votes
68. IN 'N' OUT
(For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge; 1991) 15 points | 1 votes | 0 first place votes
67. SO THIS IS LOVE?
(Fair Warning; 1981) 18 points | 1 votes | 0 first place votes
66. LOVE WALKS IN
(5150; 1986) 22 points | 1 votes | 0 first place votes
65. FEELS SO GOOD
(OU812; 1988) 23 points | 1 votes | 0 first place votes
64. SECRETS
(Diver Down; 1982) 23 points | 1 votes | 0 first place votes
63. LOSS OF CONTROL
(Women and Children First; 1980) 24 points | 2 votes | 0 first place votes
62. TOP OF THE WORLD
(For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge; 1991) 26 points | 2 votes | 0 first place votes
61. HOUSE OF PAIN
(1984; 1984) 28 points | 1 votes | 0 first place votes
60. YOU'RE NO GOOD
(Van Halen II; 1979) 29 points | 2 votes | 0 first place votes
59. CATHEDRAL
(Diver Down; 1982) 30 points | 2 votes | 0 first place votes
58. RUNAROUND
(For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge; 1991) 33 points | 2 votes | 0 first place votes
57. CABO WABO
(OU812; 1988) 36 points | 2 votes | 0 first place votes
56. HAPPY TRAILS
(Diver Down; 1982) 37 points | 3 votes | 0 first place votes
55. BEST OF BOTH WORLDS
(5150; 1986) 38 points | 3 votes | 0 first place votes
54. ME WISE MAGIC
(Best Of – Volume I; 1996) 38 points | 3 votes | 0 first place votes
53. BIG BAD BILL (IS SWEET WILLIAM NOW)
(Diver Down; 1982) 40 points | 3 votes | 0 first place votes
52. SPANISH FLY
(Van Halen II; 1979) 40 points | 2 votes | 0 first place votes
51. RIGHT NOW
(For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge; 1991) 49 points | 3 votes | 0 first place votes
50. ROMEO DELIGHT
(Women and Children First; 1980) 49 points | 3 votes | 0 first place votes
49. “5150”
(5150; 1986) 58 points | 2 votes | 0 first place votes
48. HANG 'EM HIGH
(Diver Down; 1982) 58 points | 4 votes | 0 first place votes
47. MINE ALL MINE
(OU812; 1988) 59 points | 3 votes | 0 first place votes
46. DREAMS
(5150; 1986) 61 points | 4 votes | 0 first place votes
45. DANCING IN THE STREET
(Diver Down; 1982) 63 points | 4 votes | 0 first place votes
44. IN A SIMPLE RHYME
(Women and Children First; 1980) 64 points | 3 votes | 0 first place votes
43. WHEN IT'S LOVE
(OU812; 1988) 67 points | 3 votes | 1 first place votes
42. GIRL GONE BAD
(1984; 1984) 74 points | 3 votes | 1 first place votes
41. LITTLE DREAMER
(Van Halen; 1978) 75 points | 3 votes | 0 first place votes
40. OUTTA LOVE AGAIN
(Van Halen II; 1979) 75 points | 5 votes | 0 first place votes
39. POUNDCAKE
(For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge; 1991) 78 points | 4 votes | 0 first place votes
38. INTRUDER
(Diver Down; 1982) 79 points | 4 votes | 0 first place votes
37. FEEL YOUR LOVE TONIGHT
(Van Halen; 1978) 80 points | 5 votes | 0 first place votes
36. TOP JIMMY
(1984; 1984) 86 points | 5 votes | 0 first place votes
35. TAKE YOUR WHISKEY HOME
(Women and Children First; 1980) 99 points | 5 votes | 0 first place votes
34. WHERE HAVE ALL THE GOOD TIMES GONE!
(Diver Down; 1982) 99 points | 5 votes | 0 first place votes
33. COULD THIS BE MAGIC?
(Women and Children First; 1980) 102 points | 5 votes | 1 first place votes
32. WOMEN IN LOVE...
(Van Halen II; 1979) 104 points | 6 votes | 0 first place votes
31. PUSH COMES TO SHOVE
(Fair Warning; 1981) 105 points | 6 votes | 0 first place votes
30. ICE CREAM MAN
(Van Halen; 1978) 117 points | 7 votes | 0 first place votes
29. SINNER'S SWING!
(Fair Warning; 1981) 123 points | 7 votes | 0 first place votes
28. LIGHT UP THE SKY
(Van Halen II; 1979) 134 points | 7 votes | 0 first place votes
27. “DIRTY MOVIES”
(Fair Warning; 1981) 141 points | 7 votes | 0 first place votes
26. FINISH WHAT YA STARTED
(OU812; 1988) 142 points | 8 votes | 0 first place votes
25. (OH) PRETTY WOMAN
(Diver Down; 1982) 144 points | 8 votes | 0 first place votes
24. HEAR ABOUT IT LATER
(Fair Warning; 1981) 154 points | 8 votes | 0 first place votes
23. D.O.A.
(Van Halen II; 1979) 162 points | 8 votes | 0 first place votes
22. WHY CAN'T THIS BE LOVE
(5150; 1986) 171 points | 10 votes | 0 first place votes
21. DROP DEAD LEGS
(1984; 1984) 182 points | 9 votes | 0 first place votes
20. ON FIRE
(Van Halen; 1978) 183 points | 8 votes | 0 first place votes
19. SOMEBODY GET ME A DOCTOR
(Van Halen II; 1979) 186 points | 9 votes | 0 first place votes
18. BEAUTIFUL GIRLS
(Van Halen II; 1979) 207 points | 12 votes | 0 first place votes
17. I'M THE ONE
(Van Halen; 1978) 214 points | 9 votes | 0 first place votes
16. LITTLE GUITARS
(Diver Down; 1982) 227 points | 9 votes | 1 first place votes
15. ERUPTION
(Van Halen; 1978) 302 points | 12 votes | 1 first place votes
14. YOU REALLY GOT ME
(Van Halen; 1978) 318 points | 15 votes | 0 first place votes
13. ATOMIC PUNK
(Van Halen; 1978) 329 points | 14 votes | 1 first place votes
12. HOT FOR TEACHER
(1984; 1984) 373 points | 16 votes | 0 first place votes
11. JAMIE'S CRYIN'
(Van Halen; 1978) 373 points | 16 votes | 1 first place votes
10. AND THE CRADLE WILL ROCK...
(Women and Children First; 1980) 377 points | 17 votes | 1 first place votes
9. MEAN STREET
(Fair Warning; 1981) 391 points | 17 votes | 0 first place votes
8. DANCE THE NIGHT AWAY
(Van Halen II; 1979) 404 points | 17 votes | 0 first place votes
7. I'LL WAIT
(1984; 1984) 461 points | 18 votes | 1 first place votes
6. JUMP
(1984; 1984) 485 points | 20 votes | 0 first place votes
5. RUNNIN' WITH THE DEVIL
(Van Halen; 1978) 527 points | 21 votes | 2 first place votes
4. EVERYBODY WANTS SOME!!
(Women and Children First; 1980) 577 points | 23 votes | 0 first place votes
3. UNCHAINED
(Fair Warning; 1981) 636 points | 23 votes | 3 first place votes
2. PANAMA
(1984; 1984) 663 points | 23 votes | 4 first place votes
1. AIN'T TALKIN' 'BOUT LOVE
(Van Halen; 1978) 711 points | 22 votes | 8 first place votes

i was hoping "unchained" would be no. 1 but knew in my heart it'd be "ain't talkin' bout love"

42. GIRL GONE BAD
(1984; 1984) 74 points | 3 votes | 1 first place votes

aw my no. 1 just missed it. this song rocks you guys

41-50 is a treasure trove tbh

only three little dreamers ;_;

Love the pie charts, JF.

Can't argue with that top 5.

Thanks Johnny!

Every track of the debut placed Top 40 except "Little Dreamer" at #41

I predicted Ain't Talkin' Bout Love would win by 20% over 2. That was clearly irrationally exhuberant but its's nice to see it win.

1. I'll Wait
2. Everybody Wants Some!!
3. "Dirty Movies"
4. I'm The One
5. Unchained
6. Could This Be Magic?
7. Little Dreamer
8. Sinner's Swing!
9. Atomic Punk
10. D.O.A.
11. In A Simple Rhyme
12. Top Jimmy
13. Mean Street
14. Drop Dead Legs
15. And The Cradle Will Rock
16. Hot for Teacher
17. Women In Love...
18. Hear About It Later
19. Hang 'Em High
20. Finish What Ya Started
21. Intruder
22. (Oh) Pretty Woman

no #1 votes for Jump!

Wanna thank everyone for voting, and nate woolls for all his behind the scenes wizardry. Also, I want to apologize to Sammy Hagar because he got screwed.

Eruption
Drop Dead Legs
Ain't Talkin' 'Bout Love
Everybody Wants Some!!
Panama
I'm the One
Atomic Punk
And the Cradle Will Rock...
Take Your Whiskey Home
(Oh) Pretty Woman
Ice Cream Man
On Fire
You Really Got Me
Runnin' with the Devil
Hot for Teacher
Jump
Big Bad Bill (Is Sweet William Now)
Jamie's Cryin'
Mean Street
Unchained
Could This Be Magic?
Beautiful Girls

...and by "Dinosaur Band" I meant that despite their youth, VH was trafficking in many of the same things--virtuoso musicianship, bottomless decadence & hedonism, huge huge shows--that older groups were into and the new groups (supposedly) weren't. Of course despite VH were skronkyier and noisier than their predecessors and and most of their contemporaries--they did sound right at home on the Over Edge s/t, didn't they?

sometimes I think my overwhelming preference for the DLR era has a lot to do with my overall preference for that era of music in general. i was coming of age during the latter half of the Sammy reign, but outside of indie bs and g-funk I was pretty obsessed with classic rock/ funk/ new wave/ disco/ post-punk

(Thanks Johnny! :-))

1. Girl Gone Bad
2. Light Up the Sky
3. Unchained
4. "5150"
5. Everybody Wants Some!!
6. Little Guitars
7. Push Comes to Shove
8. Drop Dead Legs
9. I’m the One
10. Mine All Mine
11. On Fire
12. Finish What Ya Started
13. Why Can’t This Be Love
14. Me Wise Magic
15. Romeo Delight
16. Sinner’s Swing!
17. Top of the World
18. I’ll Wait
19. You and Your Blues
20. Humans Being
21. As Is
22. Cabo Wabo

TRAX
1. Panama
2. Unchained
3. I'll Wait
4. Hot For Teacher
5. Jamie's Cryin'
6. Poundcake
7. Ain't Talkin' 'Bout Love
8. Everybody Wants Some!!
9. Jump
10. Runnin' With The Devil
11. Atomic Punk
12. Dance The Night Away
13. Why Can't This Be Love
14. Ice Cream Man
15. Somebody Get Me A Doctor
16. Right Now
17. Finish What Ya Started
18. Beautiful Girls
19. And The Cradle Will Rock
20. Runaround
21. Standin' On Top Of The World
22. Me Wise Magic

SOLOZ
1. Eruption
2. Hot For Teacher
3. Ice Cream Man
4. Poundcake
5. Beat It

ALBUMZ
1. 1984
2. Van Halen
3. Van Halen II
4. For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge
5. Women And Children First

Great top 2.

Ain't Talkin' 'Bout Love is the first VH song I learned on guitar, and it's probably the easiest VH song to learn, probably because there's no tapping and speed picking anywhere in it. I'm sure I drove my parents crazy playing it in my room for hours at a time.