Heroin - Velvet Underground (D, G)Jane Says - Jane's Addiction (G, A)Don't Let Me Down - Beatles (E, F#m)NYC - Interpol (F, C)Depreston - Courtney Barnett (Fmaj7, C)Dreams - Fleetwood Mac (F, G)
i know Coconut by Nilsson is supposedly just C7 but i'm pretty sure he's playing a G in the bass, maybe the chord is just C7/G
others?
― flappy bird, Friday, 2 September 2016 18:31 (seven years ago) link
Coconut is one chord!
― Οὖτις, Friday, 2 September 2016 18:33 (seven years ago) link
anyway there's too many to count, are you serious about this thread wtf
― Οὖτις, Friday, 2 September 2016 18:34 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBIyW9o_Mg8
― wan bobolink (Noodle Vague), Friday, 2 September 2016 18:35 (seven years ago) link
check the monkey's hands though - he's alternating from a straight C7 to a C7 with a G in the bass.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tbgv8PkO9eo
xp
― flappy bird, Friday, 2 September 2016 18:36 (seven years ago) link
loooool nv
― imago, Friday, 2 September 2016 18:38 (seven years ago) link
Ravel - Bolero (C, E)
― Dominique, Friday, 2 September 2016 18:38 (seven years ago) link
at least 50% of Spacemen 3's catalog
― Οὖτις, Friday, 2 September 2016 18:41 (seven years ago) link
Roadrunner, by J Richman, you just catch a third one right at the end
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Friday, 2 September 2016 22:03 (seven years ago) link
Nah, there's 4th chord (a G) at the "Roadrunner once, roadrunner twice..." section.
― Aw naw, no' Annoni oan an' aw noo (Tom D.), Friday, 2 September 2016 22:36 (seven years ago) link
... 3rd chord that is, the E at the end is the 4th. To be anal about it.
― Aw naw, no' Annoni oan an' aw noo (Tom D.), Friday, 2 September 2016 22:37 (seven years ago) link
But talking of songs that are two chords until they stick a cheeky 3rd one in right at the end: "Pink Flag" by Wire. Though "Practice Makes Perfect" by Wire really is only two chords... I think.
― Aw naw, no' Annoni oan an' aw noo (Tom D.), Friday, 2 September 2016 22:49 (seven years ago) link
Lou Reed, "Senselessly Cruel". Lou must surely have others.
― Aw naw, no' Annoni oan an' aw noo (Tom D.), Friday, 2 September 2016 22:52 (seven years ago) link
... like for instance, "Temporary Thing", which is even on the same album!
― Aw naw, no' Annoni oan an' aw noo (Tom D.), Friday, 2 September 2016 22:54 (seven years ago) link
Did anyone mention "The Cross" by Prince?
― Mark G, Friday, 2 September 2016 23:32 (seven years ago) link
Playing an inversion doesn't really count as a new chord, surely?
― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Saturday, 3 September 2016 03:03 (seven years ago) link
Lol
― Under the Zing of Stan (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 3 September 2016 03:08 (seven years ago) link
born in the usa (B, E)
"dreams" def has a third chord iirc.
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 3 September 2016 03:10 (seven years ago) link
New Order TemptationLCD Soundsystem All My Friends.A ton of other songs.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 3 September 2016 03:21 (seven years ago) link
Um, btw hasn't this been done before?
― Under the Zing of Stan (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 3 September 2016 03:23 (seven years ago) link
yes but which of these songs have the truth
― mookieproof, Saturday, 3 September 2016 03:46 (seven years ago) link
"dreams" def has a third chord iirc.― call all destroyer, Friday, September 2, 2016 8:10 PM (two hours ago)
― call all destroyer, Friday, September 2, 2016 8:10 PM (two hours ago)
Am - G - F is the verse and the chorus
also Don't Let Me Down has a couple extra chords in the bridge.
great thread.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 3 September 2016 05:20 (seven years ago) link
"Everyday People". And the entire bass line is only one note!
― Futuristic Bow Wow (thewufs), Saturday, 3 September 2016 06:56 (seven years ago) link
Helpful thread for learning the guitar
Whole wide world - Wreckless Ericclassic
― niels, Saturday, 3 September 2016 08:08 (seven years ago) link
Manuel Göttsching - E2-E4
― Gavin, Leeds, Saturday, 3 September 2016 10:17 (seven years ago) link
Heard Somebody I Used to Know for the first time in a while last thursday. I love the bass, just two tones, and then a third one in the chorus. That song is so well done.
― Frederik B, Saturday, 3 September 2016 11:12 (seven years ago) link
Nirvana - Something in the Way
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 3 September 2016 12:43 (seven years ago) link
Another Lou Reed one, "Kicks".
― Aw naw, no' Annoni oan an' aw noo (Tom D.), Saturday, 3 September 2016 12:48 (seven years ago) link
... and two more, both on the same album, "I Want To Boogie With You" and "Families".
― Aw naw, no' Annoni oan an' aw noo (Tom D.), Saturday, 3 September 2016 12:50 (seven years ago) link
... and "Ooh Baby" from "Coney Island Baby".
― Aw naw, no' Annoni oan an' aw noo (Tom D.), Saturday, 3 September 2016 12:52 (seven years ago) link
"Whole Lotta Love" would count except for the B5-A5 stuff in the vocal break.
― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Saturday, 3 September 2016 15:04 (seven years ago) link
"Horse with No Name"?
― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Saturday, 3 September 2016 15:10 (seven years ago) link
Jane Says is technically 3 in that the A in the chorus is actually an A7
― Neanderthal, Saturday, 3 September 2016 15:11 (seven years ago) link
yeah I think Horse is just two.
Molly's Lips?
― Neanderthal, Saturday, 3 September 2016 15:12 (seven years ago) link
I wouldn't count adding a 7th as a new chord but I think there is a third chord here: if you mean the chord under "tomorrow", I think the guitar is playing G and C# over D. This could be ambiguous on its own but, with the bass emphasizing D, and with the vocal line emphasizing A and ending on F#, I hear the root as D.
― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Saturday, 3 September 2016 16:22 (seven years ago) link
Sly "family affair"
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 3 September 2016 16:36 (seven years ago) link
family affair has at least four (mostly in the chorus)
― I know hoes that know Ali Farka Toure (voodoo chili), Saturday, 3 September 2016 16:53 (seven years ago) link
Wilco - Misunderstood
― I know hoes that know Ali Farka Toure (voodoo chili), Saturday, 3 September 2016 16:54 (seven years ago) link
So basically this thread is destined for 500+ posts about what a chord is
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 3 September 2016 17:05 (seven years ago) link
Eno, "Third Uncle"
― Aw naw, no' Annoni oan an' aw noo (Tom D.), Saturday, 3 September 2016 17:18 (seven years ago) link
Eno, "Baby's On Fire"
― Aw naw, no' Annoni oan an' aw noo (Tom D.), Saturday, 3 September 2016 17:19 (seven years ago) link
Xpost i like sund4r's theory posts tho.
― Neanderthal, Saturday, 3 September 2016 17:21 (seven years ago) link
New Order Temptation
There's more than two chords in this.
― the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Saturday, 3 September 2016 19:43 (seven years ago) link
"Pushin' Too Hard"
― timellison, Saturday, 3 September 2016 20:07 (seven years ago) link
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 3 September 2016 17:05 (three hours ago) Permalink
Yes, but the chords in Family Affair are Dm, Gm7, C7 and Bbmaj7
― I know hoes that know Ali Farka Toure (voodoo chili), Saturday, 3 September 2016 20:50 (seven years ago) link
how many chords does prince's "we can funk" have?
― a confederacy of lampreys (rushomancy), Sunday, 4 September 2016 12:32 (seven years ago) link
Don't Let Me Down - Beatles (E, F#m)
There's a passing Amaj7 in the choruses, and the bridge has a B and B7.
― a 47-year-old chainsaw artist from South Carolina (Phil D.), Sunday, 4 September 2016 12:38 (seven years ago) link
Van Morrison - You Don't Pull No Punches But You Don't Push the River. It all seems to be Em C.
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Monday, 5 September 2016 00:04 (seven years ago) link
what is the pop song with the most chords? (excluding tracks that are more than, say, five minutes long so as to rule out song suites and the like)
― soref, Monday, 5 September 2016 00:18 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, tbf, A and A7 could definitely function differently if e.g A7 were a secondary dominant (V7/IV) in the key of A. A9 and A7 pretty much always have the same function, though, as do A and Amaj7.
― Under the Zing of Stan (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 5 September 2016 18:23 (seven years ago) link
(xxp) I was literally just going to post something about how Steely Dan must show up eventually!
― Aw naw, no' Annoni oan an' aw noo (Tom D.), Monday, 5 September 2016 18:25 (seven years ago) link
Or someone especially sophisticated musically, like Stevie Wonder.
― Aw naw, no' Annoni oan an' aw noo (Tom D.), Monday, 5 September 2016 18:26 (seven years ago) link
Someone count up Deacon Blues― Josh in Chicago, Monday, September 5, 2016 6:21 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, September 5, 2016 6:21 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I got 31. sund4r might come up with something different.
― the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Monday, 5 September 2016 18:32 (seven years ago) link
cardiacs say hi
― imago, Monday, 5 September 2016 18:42 (seven years ago) link
Steely Dan songs all have different chords for the solo, which juices the chord count a bit
― I know hoes that know Ali Farka Toure (voodoo chili), Monday, 5 September 2016 18:49 (seven years ago) link
*SD tracks from Royal Scam on I should say
― I know hoes that know Ali Farka Toure (voodoo chili), Monday, 5 September 2016 18:50 (seven years ago) link
I'll give you that, since we're just counting as opposed to analysing, if you assume that we're working with recordings as opposed to compositions, you could count every harmonic structure differently, as opposed to counting based on harmonic function. We'd be counting two different things, though. Like, would you count this figure as three chords?
― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Monday, 5 September 2016 18:50 (seven years ago) link
It depends, on one hand you could say that the function of those chords (in that specific order) is to provide a melody line against an A major chord, or one could argue that any one of those chords on their own has its own sound and could subtly change the flavour of a chord progression depending on context or its "place" in the progression, i.e. what chord comes before and after and how the chord relates to those other two chords.
― the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Monday, 5 September 2016 18:57 (seven years ago) link
Feel like Treeship is making a weird, "reverse-pedantic" argument. Sure, if you want to play the song and make it sound as close as possible to the original that extra information about the chord colors or basslines will certainly be useful, but as far as thinking about the harmonic structure of the song maybe not so much. "All The Young Dudes" starts, I think, D D/C# D/B D/A. Does that count as four chords or one chord with a very common bassline underneath?If you are playing it all by yourself on a single guitar, acoustic or otherwise, I guess you have to play the four relevant chord shapes, but you can still think of the basic chord as D. If you have more than one instrument playing, you have the choice of having that bassline doubled, or one guy can play it and everybody else can play something that goes with a D and doesn't "step on" the bassline.
― Under the Zing of Stan (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 5 September 2016 19:21 (seven years ago) link
I don't think anyone said anything about slash chords, dude. Which of course, I didn't count.
― the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Monday, 5 September 2016 19:26 (seven years ago) link
You might just as well be. Might even create a new chord count record that way!
― Under the Zing of Stan (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 5 September 2016 19:28 (seven years ago) link
xpost:
Well, aside from flappy bird in the opening post - and as Sund4r pointed out, C7/G is an inversion.
― the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Monday, 5 September 2016 19:29 (seven years ago) link
You have revealed yourself to be some kind of "voicist," privileging the top notes of chords over the bass notes.
― Under the Zing of Stan (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 5 September 2016 19:30 (seven years ago) link
It's Turrican, btw, not Treeship. Maybe you aren't as observant as I'd first pegged you after all.
― the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Monday, 5 September 2016 19:31 (seven years ago) link
i was gonna say, I didn't think Treezy posted here, there was no liberal politics batsignal present
― Neanderthal, Monday, 5 September 2016 19:33 (seven years ago) link
Ah, sorry, lots of sun glinting on the little screen., hard to read properly. Apologies for the mixup, usually I can keep the two of you distinct in my mind.
― Under the Zing of Stan (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 5 September 2016 19:35 (seven years ago) link
u postin bout chords from the beach?
― Neanderthal, Monday, 5 September 2016 19:36 (seven years ago) link
Close. From the concrete jungle.
― Under the Zing of Stan (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 5 September 2016 19:38 (seven years ago) link
A9 and A7 pretty much always have the same function, though, as do A and Amaj7.
i have mixed feelings about this
― esempiu (crüt), Monday, 5 September 2016 19:39 (seven years ago) link
i generally think the root note is king but almost every I->Imaj7 chord change involves a pretty dramatic change in melody & harmony
― esempiu (crüt), Monday, 5 September 2016 19:41 (seven years ago) link
A dramatic change in harmony? Really?
― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Monday, 5 September 2016 19:42 (seven years ago) link
But, yeah, James Redd OTM. I don't really see a case for counting upper-voice suspensions and extensions as new chords if you're not going to do the same thing with bass voices, i.e. counting slash chords and inversions.
― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Monday, 5 September 2016 19:44 (seven years ago) link
IVmaj7 is not very dramatic because that is the natural home of the major seventh. Imaj7 is approaching V over I territory.
― esempiu (crüt), Monday, 5 September 2016 19:48 (seven years ago) link
Depends on whether or not the bass note is actually in the chord to begin with. If you're playing A/C#, then fair enough, it's A major with a major third in the bass. If you're playing A/G# then G#, A, C#, E = Amaj7. Which sounds terrible.
― the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Monday, 5 September 2016 19:51 (seven years ago) link
By which I mean, it sounds terrible in that inversion. Having an additional higher G# (as well as the bass note) to make it Amaj7/G# sounds far better.
― the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Monday, 5 September 2016 19:53 (seven years ago) link
Sure, but you could also say this about inversions:
one could argue that any one of those chords on their own has its own sound and could subtly change the flavour of a chord progression depending on context or its "place" in the progression, i.e. what chord comes before and after and how the chord relates to those other two chords.
It's pretty well accepted, even by the fustiest classical theorists, that there are certain places where you could use I[6] (first inversion) and certain places where you could only use I. And second inversion chords are even a bigger deal. If anything, I would probably argue that this is more significant than the difference between V7 and V9.
― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Monday, 5 September 2016 19:56 (seven years ago) link
having the seventh doubled in different octaves is improper, though!
are there any good musical examples of a sustained chord with a major seventh in the bass?
― esempiu (crüt), Monday, 5 September 2016 19:56 (seven years ago) link
Not that I know of. Example above was of maj7 as part of descending bass line. There is one very good example of a major triad over a flat 7th though.
― Under the Zing of Stan (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 5 September 2016 19:59 (seven years ago) link
― Οὖτις, 3. september 2016 18:05
― niels, Monday, 5 September 2016 20:16 (seven years ago) link
Chords, why are they so bad and hated?
― Under the Zing of Stan (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 5 September 2016 20:21 (seven years ago) link
Imaj7 is approaching V over I territory.
In any situation where this would make sense, I think I would analyse ^7 as an anticipation of V, i.e. a standard embellishment of a I-V progression.
― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Monday, 5 September 2016 20:44 (seven years ago) link
If I'm understanding you right.
― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Monday, 5 September 2016 20:45 (seven years ago) link
These kinds of arguments go way back
― Under the Zing of Stan (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 5 September 2016 20:47 (seven years ago) link
Or, if not that far back, at least to that other instance of this semi-regular ILX tradition for long weekends, the Great Music Theory Discussion of the Saturday Before Easter 2014.
― Under the Zing of Stan (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 5 September 2016 21:00 (seven years ago) link
I've just had to check out 'Autumn Almanac', I counted 26...
(A, A7, A9, Am7, Amaj7, Bb, B7, C, Cm, C#m, C#m7, D, Dm, D7, Eb, E, E7, Em, F, Fm, F7, F#7, G, Gm, G7, G#7)
Not counting the different extensions (and two discrepancies, one on the Eb - I think there's only an eb minor chord, and I think there's an augmented chord on the beat for "toasted" from "toasted, buttered currant buns"), the ones I'm missing are:
C and c minor chords?e minor? f minor?g minor?
I don't hear these.
― timellison, Tuesday, 6 September 2016 01:56 (seven years ago) link
I figured out how to play this song as a teenager, by the way, but never really got through the whole thing!
― timellison, Tuesday, 6 September 2016 01:59 (seven years ago) link
Nice to look at it again - it sure is a great, great song!
― timellison, Tuesday, 6 September 2016 02:07 (seven years ago) link
I don't hear these.― timellison, Tuesday, 6 September 2016 01:56 (fifty-one minutes ago) Permalink
― timellison, Tuesday, 6 September 2016 01:56 (fifty-one minutes ago) Permalink
Then yer doing it wrong.
― the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 September 2016 02:49 (seven years ago) link
Oh? Maybe you could point out where they are.
― timellison, Tuesday, 6 September 2016 04:05 (seven years ago) link
C, I got, by the way. Not c minor, though.
― timellison, Tuesday, 6 September 2016 04:24 (seven years ago) link
John Cale, "Ship of Fools"
― Bottlerockey (Tom D.), Sunday, 11 September 2016 13:31 (seven years ago) link
'Crazy for You' by Slowdive is just C major and A minor.
― Austin, Saturday, 17 September 2016 01:57 (seven years ago) link
'Age of Consent' by New Order is just D and G.
― Austin, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 02:05 (seven years ago) link
Ministry - "New World Order"
― waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 02:18 (seven years ago) link
Gravity Rides Everything by Modest Mouse is just Cadd9 and G
― flappy bird, Sunday, 28 May 2017 05:16 (six years ago) link
Milligan claimed that he wrote this song as a bet, with his brother, that he could not get a song into the hit parade that had only two chords (in this case G and D7).[3]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nebe1zuEtbc
― Future England Captain (Tom D.), Sunday, 21 June 2020 23:31 (three years ago) link
Tom Verlaine/Television, "Breakin' In My Heart"!
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 18:09 (one year ago) link
― mookieproof, Friday, September 2, 2016 8:46 PM (six years ago)
― degenerative AI (morrisp), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 20:10 (one year ago) link
"Practice Makes Perfect" is an unusual example of this, in that the two chords (Cm and G♭) don't share any conventional key or mode. Colin Newman did this again in the verse of "Don't Bring Reminders" (using B♭ and E), but tossed in three more chords for the chorus.
― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 2 February 2023 13:26 (one year ago) link