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Want to talk about this article a friend shared on FB:

http://flypaper.soundfly.com/editorial/boys-club-conversations-diversity-inclusion-experimental-music/

http://flypaper.soundfly.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/IMG_2132-edited.jpeg

Also, is the dude on the far left ogling the musician's butt or looking at her gear?

sarahell, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 02:47 (seven years ago) link

looks like he's thinking about the Gilmore Girls

larry appleton, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 02:49 (seven years ago) link

also if you know that guy, i think he is v cuet.

sarahell, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 02:50 (seven years ago) link

head titled wrong direction for butt ogle imo

adam, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 15:23 (seven years ago) link

sara all "I'll just put this here"

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 15:28 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKpSSl2Ouqo

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 15:28 (seven years ago) link

there's an insidious trap here, in that many people want to be seen as individuals first rather than simply as arbitrary representations of any particular class or group. yet judging someone as an individual allows the arbiter extraordinary latitude in exercising systemic prejudice; claiming that a person was rejected due to their individual qualities rather than their gender or race or whatever is usually at least a plausible defense.

a confederacy of lampreys (rushomancy), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 16:18 (seven years ago) link

I have like an 800-word response to this, really, but I can't tell if the post is just here to troll people into writing an 800-word response

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 16:19 (seven years ago) link

this is actually a sincere post/thread as opposed to:

STOP MAKING POLLS ILX POLLS TALKING HEADS AND SIDE PROJECTS (NOMINATIONS OPEN THROUGH OCTOBER 31)

sarahell, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 20:06 (seven years ago) link

I had considered just posting the article to the no boys thread, but felt that it would make for a better discussion here on ilm

sarahell, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 20:07 (seven years ago) link

romance in general, insecurities, poetry, chess, cooking, skinny jeans...

nicky lo-fi, Monday, 10 October 2016 18:30 (seven years ago) link

I got around to reading it and I thought it was a good/necessary read. This was something I struggled with/thought about a lot when I was traipsing through Brooklyn/NY DIY scene a few years back. I just like it when these articles give people a forum to speak for themselves and share, tbh. I have noticed a lot of my non-white/cis/male musician FB friends have been pretty straightforward about calling out discriminatory BS on Facebook and I'm all for that.

Like Whiney, I kind of have an 800 word response to this but I'm mostly happy that it's just out there. Up for a lively discussion though!

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Tuesday, 11 October 2016 22:19 (seven years ago) link


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