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inspired by my browsing youtube in private mode so as not to fuck up my sidebar recs and getting a rick beato video titled "Today's Lyrics Are Pathetically Bad" recommended on the sidebar

for the record the video it's recommending me this on is a live version of "dazed and confused"

helpfully genius has transcribed complete lyrics for the live version of "dazed" on "the song remains the same":

[Instrumental Intro 00:00-01:40]

[Verse 1]
I've been dazed an' confused
So long it's not true
I wanted a woman, never bargained for you
Now lots of people talkin', pretty few of them a-know
Soul of a woman was created below, that's right
You're the one, you're the one

[Verse 2]
Oh, everybody's been talkin', Lord
I swear they been talkin' trash (trash)
The way that ya push, push, push, push, push, push me darlin'
I can't take too much of that
So c'mon, c'mon, c'mon, c'mon whoah darlin' show me the way
I wanna make love to ya, little girl, twenty five
Twenty five
Twenty five
Twenty five
Ohhhhhhh

[Verse 3]
Said you hurt an' abuse, tellin' all of your lies
I try to quit you, baby, but ya keep me
Ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-mesmerized
So c'mon, c'mon, c'mon, c'mon, c'mon, c'mon, say what you will
I wanna make love to ya again, darlin', twenty five
Twenty five
Twenty five
Twenty five
Ahhhh
Ma-ma-ma-ma
Ma-ma-ma-ma-ma
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[Instrumental Break/Guitar Solo 04:10-06:37]
Oh, yeah

[Verse 4]
If you're goin' to San Francisco
Be sure to wear some flowers in your hair
If you're goin' into San Francisco
You're gonna meet a lotta gentle people there ohhh
Everywhere, everywhere, everywhere, oh ho
Everywhere

[Instrumental Break 07:15-07:50]

[Vocal Interlude]
I know, I know, I know, I know, I knoow
Whooooooooooaah, whooooooooooaah
Ahh, ahhh, ahhh
Ahhh, ooh
Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ah ah, ah ah, ah
Ah, ah, ah, ah, ahh

[Instrumental Break 08:34-13:46]

[Vocal Interlude]
Ahhhhhh
Ah ah, aah, ah, ah, ah, ah
Dun dun dun [repeated call-and-respond between Page and Plant]
Ahhh, ahhh, ahhh, ahhh, ahh, ahhh, ahhh
Ah, ah ah ah ah ahhh ah ah
Push, push, push, push, push, push
Push, push, push, push, ah, ah
Ahh
Ah
Uhh, uhh, uhh, uhh, uhh, uhh, uhh, ahh, ahhh
Oh
[Instrumental Break/Guitar Solo/Vocal Improvisation 14:59-25:12]

[Verse 5]
Oh everybody's been talkin', Lord
I swear they been talkin' trash
The way that ya push me darlin'
Ya know I couldn't take too much of that
So c'mon, c'mon, c'mon, c'mon, show me the way
I wanna make love to ya little girl twenty five
A-twenty five
Twenty five
Twenty five
Ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ahh

[Instrumental Outro/Guitar Solo/Vocal Improvisation/Drum Solo 25:52-29:18]
Ohhh, suck it
Yeah
Ohh

[Spoken]
Jimmy Page, electric guitar

Kate (rushomancy), Monday, 25 March 2024 21:21 (one month ago) link

and yes, definitely the best lyrics out of that set are:

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Kate (rushomancy), Monday, 25 March 2024 21:22 (one month ago) link

i like his classic song breakdowns but his comments on contemporary music are infuriating. he either hates or does not understand hip-hop, electronic, reggaeton, etc. and makes the same tired criticisms of the genres whenever they pop up. oh a hip-hop song uses a repetitive loop throughout, you say? a reggaeton song uses the reggaeton riddim? my stars!

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Monday, 25 March 2024 21:36 (one month ago) link

yeah he's honestly pretty knowledgeable about stuff within a certain genre but at this point his constant old-white-guy-isms...

all i can say to that is "ok boomer", even knowing that doing so makes me the middle aged white lady in 2003 talking about "bling bling".

Kate (rushomancy), Monday, 25 March 2024 21:47 (one month ago) link

this man came of age in the "yummy yummy yummy i got love in my tummy" era, idk if lyrics today are much worse than that

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Monday, 25 March 2024 21:53 (one month ago) link

Earlier today I enjoyed his video about the James Bond theme. My knowledge of music theory is rudimentary at best, but I was mostly able to follow his analysis and it sort of made me want to learn more. He's a good teacher.

His tastes seem to be about what I'd expect from a guy his age, so yeah, not the first person I'd consult about new music. I get it, I'm old too.

Brad C., Monday, 25 March 2024 21:54 (one month ago) link

Mostly I'm annoyed when yt recommends his videos to me, but he's good when worshipping (white) jazz legends like Keith Jarrett, Mehldau, and Metheny.

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Monday, 25 March 2024 21:56 (one month ago) link

I like his analysis just fine, I came across him at first because of those amazing videos of his son's perfect pitch. I started to really go off him when he went down the path of bitching on and fucking on about being demonitized or record companies/management blocking his shit, nobody cares.

Maresn3st, Monday, 25 March 2024 21:58 (one month ago) link

I love when http://www.youtube.com/@pat_finnerty rips on him

Maresn3st, Monday, 25 March 2024 21:59 (one month ago) link

even his classic rock breakdowns aren't all that interesting though. he has a great ear and an obviously deep well of musical knowledge but he rarely has anything to actually *say* about songwriting, which seems to be his greatest passion.

as youtube music geeks go, i much prefer adam neely, who's a deeper thinker, knows how to tell a story, understands other people's stories, and actually likes pop music.

fact checking cuz, Monday, 25 March 2024 21:59 (one month ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAyxatBvKfg

scott seward, Monday, 25 March 2024 22:04 (one month ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebwjOEqxYd8

scott seward, Monday, 25 March 2024 22:06 (one month ago) link

sorry, right, rick beato. he's annoying! not as annoying as the fantano guy but he's annoying for sure.

scott seward, Monday, 25 March 2024 22:08 (one month ago) link

I’ve been enjoying his recent interview series tbh. Nowhere near as annoying as his other material

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 25 March 2024 22:08 (one month ago) link

even his classic rock breakdowns aren't all that interesting though. he has a great ear and an obviously deep well of musical knowledge but he rarely has anything to actually *say* about songwriting, which seems to be his greatest passion.

it's cool to hear the stems and individual parts on all those songs, and his breakdowns of the chord progressions are enlightening, if not insightful. he never engages with the substance of the song, that's true

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Monday, 25 March 2024 22:10 (one month ago) link

this man came of age in the "yummy yummy yummy i got love in my tummy" era, idk if lyrics today are much worse than that

I bet you he hates "Yummy Yummy Yummy' though.

Tom D (the first British Asian ILXor) (Tom D.), Monday, 25 March 2024 22:13 (one month ago) link

His dissections of contemporary music can be annoying, but not nearly as annoying as the video thumbnails for his dissections of contemporary music.

MarkoP, Monday, 25 March 2024 22:14 (one month ago) link

Like I feel like his videos are at least a little more nuanced and insightful than the titles and thumbnails have you lead to believe.

MarkoP, Monday, 25 March 2024 22:15 (one month ago) link

a lot of the titles of his videos are clickbait, though sometimes he does make interesting points. like there was one about how all 90s rock sounds alike, yeah okay sure it does blah blah blah but if you watch it it breaks down the various producers who were involved and the samples that wind up in a bunch of different recordings, which of course was not how things were done beforehand. it's kind of interesting. i'm lukewarm on him overall, but he's a pretty decent interviewer, one of the few who actually knows the subjects' records well

frogbs, Monday, 25 March 2024 22:16 (one month ago) link

another goofy looking guy makin faces for those youtube videos looking straight into my eyes, this is so up my alley

brimstead, Monday, 25 March 2024 23:57 (one month ago) link

I kind of thought his resume would be much more impressive based on his YT clout but nope, his discogs looks like any other mid-90s indie obscurity... his band that had the most exposure has never been mentioned on this board that claims to LOVE music.

https://i.imgur.com/JCHdVE5.jpeg

This sounds like a demo that our station would have received and get quickly tossed in the pile without making it to the airwaves:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBDrUqJhMQ4

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 00:13 (one month ago) link

He's rockist in predictable and boring ways, but I like his enthusiasm for stuff he likes. I've found some of his videos interesting, made me more aware of the architecture of a song. Also I thought his tribute to Mimi Parker was totally unexpected and really nice.

He surprises me sometimes. He once listed Curve as one of the best bass sounds of all time or something.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 01:13 (one month ago) link

Yeah those are the times you remember he was in a '90s band.

He also reminds me of the Italian guys I grew up around in the Rochester suburbs (where he's from too). In good ways, mostly, the gregariousness and excitability.

this man came of age in the "yummy yummy yummy i got love in my tummy" era, idk if lyrics today are much worse than that

― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili)

I bet you he hates "Yummy Yummy Yummy' though.

― Tom D (the first British Asian ILXor) (Tom D.)

dave barry declared it to be the second worst song ever... i do think of dave barry as sort of the canonical white male boomer in terms of musical taste

i looked up the song to see if anybody has confirmed or denied the allegations that it's about swallowing cum. wikipedia was silent on the fact but provides an all-time disambiguation page:

For the Julie London album, see Yummy, Yummy, Yummy (album). For the national anthem of Vanuatu, see Yumi, Yumi, Yumi.

anyway, what i did find is that "yummy yummy yummy" is a kasenetz-katz joint (unsurprisingly), written by artie resnick and joey levine. i don't know what exactly resnick's contributions as a songwriter are, since all of his songs are co-writes. joey levine i can get a better bead on, since he went on to be a jingle guy. i mean kind of a natural career path once you've done "yummy yummy yummy", the song's basically a jingle. i mean look at this guy's career, absolute fuckin' legend:

Starting in the early 1970s, Levine began working on jingles for television commercials, as well as singing on them, with one of his most well-remembered jingles being "Sometimes You Feel Like A Nut" for Mounds and Almond Joy chocolate bars.[4]

just for that alone levine's in my good book. one of my go-to orchiectomy jokes is based on that jingle.

Popular campaigns from the past include: “Pepsi – The Joy of Cola", "Gentlemen Prefer Hanes", "Just For the Taste of It – Diet Coke", "Orange you smart, (for drinking Orange Juice)", "Come See the Softer Side of Sears", "Heartbeat of America – Chevrolet", "Dr Pepper – You Make the World Taste Better", "You Asked For It, You Got It, Toyota," "Who's that Kid With the Oreo Cookie," and "This Bud's For You" for Anheuser-Busch, and also the infamous "Proud as a Peacock" image campaign for NBC used from May 1979 to Summer 1981

just wall to wall bangers here. (if anyone here hasn't seen the "WE'RE LOUD!" parody, please do - peak "dunking on fred silverman" shit. i'll always love fred silverman for orchestrating the rural purge, but his nbc was fuckin' _dire_.) i'm sure dave barry would make fun of someone who made his career writing ad jingles, except, well. if you look at the career of jake holmes, the folkie who wrote the original "dazed and confused", then he went on to write the "be all that you can be" jingle for the us army. to me, hating on someone who can write jingles like that, one's just showing one's ignorance. i didn't hear the "valumarket" jingle for 30 years, and the second somebody brought it up again, bam! right back in my head. i don't know who wrote that one, that one's a classic tho.

the point is even if the song's _not_ actually about fellatio, it can reasonably be interpreted to be about fellatio, and that makes it an all-timer in my book. even if the residents' version is probably technically better.

oh, also, i was once again reminded that the ohio express and the ohio players were two different bands.

Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 01:20 (one month ago) link

basically what i'm saying is that rick beato, if you do a video talking about the genius of joey levine's jingle writing, all will be forgiven

Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 01:21 (one month ago) link

There were also (at least) three versions of Ohio Express: the original band which recorded their first single, the band hired to promote the single after the original band fell out with their record company and all their subsequent releases, the studio band who actually recorded all of their material (with Joey Levine on vocals). Oh and 10cc were Ohio Express for one single. I don't know who Dave Barry is but he's completely wrong about 'Yummy Yummy Yummy".

Tom D (the first British Asian ILXor) (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 01:54 (one month ago) link

Oh no, Kate, you can't defend the Rural Purge!

"Yummy Yummy Yummy" is definitely about swallowing cum. I think it is firmly in the tradition of Serge Gainsbourg's "Les Sucettes" and Annie's "Chewing Gum."

Josefa, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 01:59 (one month ago) link

I don't know who Dave Barry is but he's completely wrong about 'Yummy Yummy Yummy".

― Tom D (the first British Asian ILXor) (Tom D.)

dave barry is some american guy

named "dave"

i thought he was really funny when i was 12. he had a syndicated newspaper column. i remember his headshot in the newspaper column looking sort of like one of the wilson brothers, somewhere between brian and carl.

he had a sitcom too. like one that was supposedly "about" him. it ran for like three or four seasons. he was played by harry anderson from "night court". i don't think it had very much to do with dave barry's actual life.

Oh no, Kate, you can't defend the Rural Purge!

― Josefa

well, maybe i won't, critique it and i'll listen :)

Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 02:09 (one month ago) link

btw while we're talking kasenetz-katz joints, i fucking love "1, 2, 3, red light" by the 1910 fruitgum company... talking heads' cover of that one is sooooo good

idk how i feel about how many of those bubblegum pop songs were kind of gainsbourgian. gainsbourg was a creep, and i don't like the idea of pressuring young women to put out that way. it's a good song, though.

Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 02:14 (one month ago) link

Green Acres was still a viable show when cancelled - its reruns ran for YEARS - as was Hee Haw, as proven by its long afterlife in syndication. We did need more urban shows, but not at the expense of the classic rural shows.

Josefa, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 02:15 (one month ago) link

Dave Barry played in a rock group with Stephen King and Amy Tan. I think he said "MacArthur Park" was the worst song ever, which is extremely wrong.

Josefa, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 02:18 (one month ago) link

Rick Beatoff

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 02:18 (one month ago) link

One of his videos was about why quantization makes modern music suck, contrasting Nickelback and Zep.

I really don’t think some natural swing was the missing piece to Nickelback.

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 02:23 (one month ago) link

He dislikes a lot of the same music I do, and for more or less the same reasons, but at least I try not to be a scold about it.

ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 02:23 (one month ago) link

"Sometimes You Feel Like A Nut" for Mounds and Almond Joy chocolate bars."

i STILL sing this to this day. like, i was singing it two days ago. that's how genius it is. that's seriously like 50 years of me singing that jingle. peterpaulsalmondjoysgotnuts...mounds don't.

scott seward, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 02:24 (one month ago) link

xps I used to find great joy in Dave Barry's columns in the Miami Herald back in the day, and he seems like a good guy, but he's the kind of Boomer who thinks the lyrics of "Hang On, Sloopy" are superior to the lyrics of "MacArthur Park."

Josefa, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 02:25 (one month ago) link

Calvin K. Kazanjian was the founder and president of Peter Paul Inc., the maker of the Mounds and Almond Joy candy bars, located in Naugatuck, Connecticut. For 30 years, he met and solved the problems of an ever-growing business.

https://static.wixstatic.com/media/a6c0f4_ef69d9a633994e54b32ca482643ff6fa~mv2.jpg/v1/fill/w_238,h_298,al_c,lg_1,q_80,enc_auto/a6c0f4_ef69d9a633994e54b32ca482643ff6fa~mv2.jpg

scott seward, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 02:25 (one month ago) link

Just watched the Beato video where he takes down Jack Harlow and "Texas Hold 'Em," and have to say, at least he's punching upwards.

Josefa, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 02:27 (one month ago) link

I think what's happening here is you have a guy who's only kinda annoying being forced into being really annoying by the YouTube algorithm

frogbs, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 02:34 (one month ago) link

i STILL sing this to this day. like, i was singing it two days ago. that's how genius it is. that's seriously like 50 years of me singing that jingle. peterpaulsalmondjoysgotnuts...mounds don't.

― scott seward

mounds: yes
nuts: no

i mean, batting two for two here

Green Acres was still a viable show when cancelled - its reruns ran for YEARS - as was Hee Haw, as proven by its long afterlife in syndication. We did need more urban shows, but not at the expense of the classic rural shows.

― Josefa

mmmm i just don't know that commercial viability... i don't think of it as the be-all and end-all

like, for me, there's cultural impact to both the westerns and the rural sitcoms that followed them. bonanza? yes, great, classic all-time show, cancelling it for "being a western", that would be silly. the andy griffith show? same, fucking all-time. if the rural purge had cancelled the andy griffith show instead of, like, "mayberry rfd", i might have a problem with that.

i guess what i'd say is that i'd frame it more in terms of... like, the doctor shows. like, to me the problem with "the other martin loring" wasn't just that it was broadcast, it was that THIS FUCKING DR. KILDARE-ASS SHOW WAS STILL ON THE AIR IN 1973. Like WHAT THE FUCK. CBS had Mannix. NBC had the NBC Mystery Movie. ABC is showing fucking MARCUS WELBY, M.D.? That's pathetic. Completely pathetic. I'd rather watch "The Girl With Something Extra", even after learning that the "something extra" was ESP and not, like, a penis.

Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 02:51 (one month ago) link

I think what's happening here is you have a guy who's only kinda annoying being forced into being really annoying by the YouTube algorithm

― frogbs

forced "well, actually" is my least favorite sexual fetish

Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 02:52 (one month ago) link

I didn't know he was in a band I sorta like that YouTube song you posted lol

Frozen CD, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 03:31 (one month ago) link

xp i raced my bike in naugatuck once it was kinda terrifying. the town seemed kinda post-industrial-washout consistent tho

yeah, that's a hell of a jingle. "you asked for it-- YOU GOT IT, TOYOTA!" was WAY more immense. it owned all media. everywhere. all the time. it owns me. now.

schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 04:24 (one month ago) link

he should go full inverse maron and do a tight 5 after each interview

145 feet up in a Jeffrey Pine (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 05:30 (one month ago) link

there was that time he spent years practicing chord identification with his son who later turned out to not really be interested in music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3Cb1qwCUvI

corrs unplugged, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 08:34 (one month ago) link

the YouTube ecosystem needs Beato to feel like the teacher so people like Neely and Finnerty can feel like your peers

ን (nabisco), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 15:19 (one month ago) link

i basically know this guy only from pat finnerty videos but his signature lp special is rad imo

https://images.ctfassets.net/m8onsx4mm13s/3l9hCDnmmlh9da4eD9kf3K/6169e1577647e4b25be663352bd3732a/LPSDB21BMNH1_front__1_.png

memphis milano: the new trend of the 80s (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 15:27 (one month ago) link

i think i also have a bias against someone like rick beato because of my occupation. 9 out of 10 times people similar to him (dude dad musos) will come in and grill me about my receiver and my speakers - things i have no interest in other than i know what sounds good to me - and then they will leave. without ever buying anything.

scott seward, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 16:35 (one month ago) link

I think I'm right in saying that for a lot of music tuition youtubers - and especially in the guitar world - the real money they're making is not from adverts or patreon or sponsored videos or paid promo or whatever but from selling courses off the back of their channel. Rick's approach to this has long been something called the Beato Book which he sells at fifty bucks a pop, and if you've ever wondered whats actually in it, here's a review:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EfLcFImdg8

conclusion: lol, no thanks pal

Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 17:22 (one month ago) link

lol recommending good music YT people is in the spirit of the thread if you ask me

Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 20:54 (one month ago) link

Beato is totally a rockist, no argument from me. But if he says that songs that (for example) don't change key or are often limited melodically, that's kind of a statement of fact. Whether you care or not (I don't) is a matter of taste and preference. I've got friends that consider a lot of radio songs right now like nails on a chalkboard because many of them are just the same four chords over and over again (a good friend calls it the shell game, just moving the order of things around). And many of the songs on the radio *do* (and always have) feature the same handful of chords shuffled around, or the same beat. Again, whether that's a bad thing is a matter of preference, but I can understand why someone might find it boring. Imo Beato is pretty attuned to what sets a song apart, or at least makes him perk up his ears, whether I agree with his assessment or not.
so

There was one clip of his some months or years back where he made the argument that most songs would be improved by the addition of just a little bit of guitar, then demoed it. That's *totally* rockist, but whether I agreed with him or not, iirc most of the stuff he played certainly didn't make the song *worse*.

I would love to see more of these fixtures of music YouTube make original music, or see what they would add or demonstrate in a band situation. Or, like, put Beato in a room with his buddies and have him come up with a "Def Leppard" song, or Taylor Swift song, or Ariana Grande song, whatever. Some way to demo their skills or knowledge well deconstructing current trends or studio tricks. Like that dude that discovered that old Genesis floppy disk, and then made his own fake Genesis song, that was fun.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 21:15 (one month ago) link

Rob Scallon and Andrew Huang do a lot of that stuff and are way more entertaining than Beato, even though their music is not my thing at all

Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 21:19 (one month ago) link

Will 2nd Puisheen (Mike Adams) from NickB's list, dude has helped me many times with DIY projects.

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 21:21 (one month ago) link

He seems like a genuinely lovely person

Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 21:24 (one month ago) link

Blayne Westphall (everything unless it's 4/4)

145 feet up in a Jeffrey Pine (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 21:34 (one month ago) link

I have no beef with Rick Beato, but the obvious problem when you judge songs based on the number of chords or key changes or melodic complexity or whether a chord progression is used in other songs is that you immediately remove a whole lot of genres from any kind of consideration whatsoever. Criticizing a piece of music because it conforms to the conventions of its genre is an amateur move.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 21:40 (one month ago) link

not to mention how many rock songs you'd have to eliminate using those criteria: "i can't get no satisfaction" is repetitive and doesn't modulate!!!

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 22:07 (one month ago) link

He doesn't really criticize, though, does he? He mostly will just say it's not for him.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 22:12 (one month ago) link

that's not true at all, especially when it comes to reggaeton

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 22:16 (one month ago) link

I thought he just didn't like that beat, or that so many of the songs on the charts have that beat. I don't really know reggaeton, is that the only beat?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 22:17 (one month ago) link

yes

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 22:18 (one month ago) link

his reactions are dismissive and pander to the folks in the comments who can't stop talking about how today's music doesn't have soul, maaan

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 22:19 (one month ago) link

Is that stuff like Bad Bunny? I guess I don't really like what I've heard from him, either, or I'm not impressed. But I don't think I've heard much. Regardless, I still think his (Beato) rockism is pretty mild.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 22:20 (one month ago) link

People complaining about dembow, it's like complaining about how 99 percent of rock and pop songs are 4/4 with a backbeat on the 2 and 4. Just dumb.

there are better music theory for the masses guys out there, Kirk Hamilton, for example

this guy is amazing, could listen to him break songs down forever. I'm amazed he hasn't got a youtube channel

nate woolls, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 22:20 (one month ago) link

in this thread, we agree with everything rick beato says, apparently

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 22:23 (one month ago) link

I had to Google dembow!

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 22:24 (one month ago) link

in this thread, we agree with everything rick beato says, apparently

― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili)

you know i do blame youtube. i've seen it with other people. you put something "controversial" in your title and thumbnail to get clicks, and then you say some reasonable, thoughtful, respectful, and nuanced stuff, which is how you get fans. i mean half of the youtube people i subscribe to do the same thing.

which, you know what, i feel like we're doing the same kind of thing here, so it all works out imo

honestly, on reflection, i don't even blame youtube, that's like... i'm not going to watch a three hour video about something i already know i agree with. i can tell you this for a fact because mia mulder made a three hour video about the ways capitalism is bad and i didn't watch it because i already know capitalism is bad.

so yes, welcome to the "let's make fun of rick beato" thread, wherein we collectively conclude, you know what? rick beato is kind of ok, actually.

Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 22:32 (one month ago) link

Cyberattack (guitar pedals, music production)
Jorb Loves Gear (synth gear)
Puisheen (offset guitars)
Michael Banfield (guitar pedals)
Red Means Recording (electronic music production)
Hainbach (old weird synths)
Look Mum No Computer (old weird synths)
twooba (guitar playing, songwriting, she's funny)
Earthquaker Devices (guitar pedals and the amazing 'show us your junk' series)
Adam Vox Music (the history of electronic music explored using korg volcas)
Simon The Magpie (kinda wacky guy making shit instruments from scratch, it's pretty silly tbh)
Sarah Belle Reid (electronic and improvised music)
Ben Levin (music composition)
Alex Ball (old synth gear)

feel like i'm missing some women there, sorry

good list. a few faves there and some that are new to me.

Emily Hopkins (cool harp videos) is worth checking out.

stirmonster, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 23:32 (one month ago) link

Good music YouTubers
Hainbach
Ricky Tinez
Jonwayne/Jon Makes Beats
Anthony Marinelli (studio musician who worked with Michael Jackson among others)
Alex Ball (vintage synth nerd)
Bald Beato (Pat Finnerty)
Si Spex
Todd Barton (Buchla/Serge synth stuff)
Guitar Moves (guy from Zwan’s Vice series he got back and went independent)

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 23:36 (one month ago) link

Ella Feingold is great for breaking down classic funk and soul guitar parts, she's played with Badu and other major R&B ppl

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 23:37 (one month ago) link

Ha, that youtube-ecosystem thing pulls me the other direction -- the fact that Beato has all these obvious it's-my-job incentives to trot out periodic pandering pop-is-bad-now bait makes it feel sadder and more craven (to me) than if he actually really wanted to spend his time on that. (But I also have zero idea if the content inside has gotten all nuanced; I think I saw part of one and was like yeah, this is not the kind of video I ever need to watch from him)

Moodles post makes me want to see Beato's Ge1r H0ngr0 interview

ን (nabisco), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 23:39 (one month ago) link

Fact Mag’s Against The Clock and similar series (Patch Notes?) were good but discontinued I guess.

Telekom Electric Beats has some good series like making a group of producers/DJs guess records

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 23:40 (one month ago) link

Ardrian “anyone can play guitar” my go-to guitar YouTuber. Non-rockist rock explainer, very good at dissecting original arrangements. Also very good at showing why arrangements are effective and not just on the theory level, but because of feel/texture/timbre. His take on The Good, Bad and the Ugly is a good example.

bendy, Wednesday, 27 March 2024 01:39 (one month ago) link

Just wanna add Jameson Nathan Jones (classically-informed synth ambient guy) to the list of good music YouTubers.

feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Wednesday, 27 March 2024 01:43 (one month ago) link

Who’s the guy who draws while breaking down theory or songs? 12Tone?

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 27 March 2024 02:24 (one month ago) link

I had no idea about any of these other nerds, looking forward to exploring!

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 March 2024 02:26 (one month ago) link

Should there be another thread for non-Beato YT nerds actually worth watching?

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 27 March 2024 14:57 (one month ago) link

If forced to watch an hour of an old session musician talking to Beato or Jack Conte, I think I'd take Beato.

Conte annoys me no end, but I've really come around on Jack Stratton (Vulfpeck) and love listening to him talk about '70s session musicians.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-xu0x5-B9g

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Wednesday, 27 March 2024 15:00 (one month ago) link

My phone must have heard me talking about this stuff, because it just reminded me that there is a new video out of Beato interviewing the drummer from Tool, and I would be lying if I said I was not all in.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 March 2024 00:39 (one month ago) link

His dissections of contemporary music can be annoying, but not nearly as annoying as the video thumbnails for his dissections of contemporary music.

― MarkoP, lunes 25 de marzo de 2024 10:14 PM (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink

Like I feel like his videos are at least a little more nuanced and insightful than the titles and thumbnails have you lead to believe.

― MarkoP, lunes 25 de marzo de 2024 10:15 PM (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink

Ugh I know. I want the ragebait titles and fake indignation reactions trend to fucking die already but it seems they send in the views and it’s going to stay for a long time.

I don’t mind Beato. It’s been more than a year since I see anything by him… Spent several pandemic days watching him out of boredom and he seems chill and knowledgeable… at least when it comes to talking about music he likes which is mostly rock and jazz. His opinions on “most listened tracks on Spotify” were very bland and uninteresting… at least those I watched.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 28 March 2024 01:56 (one month ago) link

never heard of this guy. ilxors apparently spend a lot of time watching youtube videos where ppl break down songs?

jaymc, Thursday, 28 March 2024 03:55 (one month ago) link

I watch more Youtube on the my living room tv than any network or streaming service, tbh.

ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 28 March 2024 04:07 (one month ago) link

I don't know much Tool but thought it was a lovely interview. Danny is beyond humble and charming which kind of carries it for me. Pretty cool that an active, renowned band's genesis, existence and entire catalog happened/happens in two little rooms.

Psychocandy Apple Grey (Pyschocandles), Thursday, 28 March 2024 04:40 (one month ago) link

its subtle but I think this might be the guy he's making fun of in this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3oHvFjtMlQ

frogbs, Thursday, 28 March 2024 13:57 (one month ago) link

lollllllll

budo jeru, Thursday, 28 March 2024 14:02 (one month ago) link

that was great

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Thursday, 28 March 2024 14:39 (one month ago) link

Lol that was otm

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 28 March 2024 15:39 (one month ago) link

i think tony's perserverence is doing some of the work there. the points are true but not funny in delivery rly? but 10 dips in it's like...lol u mad bro. yeah ok. damn. you keep going ha B- /gradeeverything

schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Thursday, 28 March 2024 16:11 (one month ago) link

Iirc Beato did have an okay video about why people his age might not like contemporary music. He had some ok specific insights, whether or not you agreed with his takeaways.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 March 2024 16:47 (one month ago) link

josh, do you agree with his takeaways?

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Thursday, 28 March 2024 16:49 (one month ago) link

I can't remember honestly. The only one I remember is him complaining that things are a little too quantized, and there is no subtle tempo variation, which our (old) ears can detect. I guess I understand that. I don't care too much about lack of key changes or things like that, though I suppose I can see someone who is into that stuff being annoyed with their absence.

Me, I do know that my appreciation of what's on the charts ebbs and flows over the years, based on trends, some of which I jibe with, some of which I don't. Sometimes the radio seems pretty copycat and conservative, sometimes it's pretty wild.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 March 2024 16:53 (one month ago) link

jaymc, Beato was first brought to my attention when I was learning about theory behind the modes of Steely Dan guitar solos, I wanna say Larry Carlton's KidC...?

I'm obviously incredibly sorry I ever clicked that because now I have to look at a thumbnail of his every other time I glance at the YT recommends sidebar.

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 28 March 2024 16:56 (one month ago) link

here it is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wZp3LleWF0

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 28 March 2024 16:57 (one month ago) link

i think tony's perserverence is doing some of the work there. the points are true but not funny in delivery rly? but 10 dips in it's like...lol u mad bro. yeah ok. damn. you keep going ha B- /gradeeverything

― schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Thursday, March 28, 2024 11:11 AM (forty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I mean if you don't know Tony Zaret's shtick I highly encourage you to at least check out the thumbnails here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=videos

frogbs, Thursday, 28 March 2024 17:18 (one month ago) link

oooh well that didn't work. try this

http://www.youtube.com/tonyzaret

frogbs, Thursday, 28 March 2024 17:19 (one month ago) link

i did enjoy larry carlton's kid charlemagne breakdown

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Thursday, 28 March 2024 17:21 (one month ago) link

TY—soon enuf i will

schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Thursday, 28 March 2024 17:35 (one month ago) link

sorry weird xp

schrodingers cat was always cool (Hunt3r), Thursday, 28 March 2024 17:36 (one month ago) link


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