Bruce Springsteen - Tunnel of Love - Classic or What?

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Bruce Springsteen Tunnel of Love. I think one side is better than the other. Any opinions on this album?

ty, Wednesday, 30 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

He is underrated by the cool crowd and overrated by critics. But I'd say "classic"

Mike Hanley, Wednesday, 30 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I think I have massive crushes on everyone of his songs. Simple/direct/working class. he's songs are ordinary but see the world as extraordinary.

Song writer extraordinare. I've really started to buy up his albums since last year and listened to tunnel of love, and then, the one side, kept it on and listened ot it through the night.

It's fantastic.

As the evening sky turned to black....

What a great lyric.

In a self defeating apathetic indie world we need bruce. And yes, it was badly drawn boy and alan mcgee to first get me into bruce.

He is the BOSS!

ty, Wednesday, 30 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

This Springsteen album is an undeniable classic. If for no other reason than he canned the B.S., self-mythologizing and the bombast of Born in the USA and actually made some first- rate pop tunes. It's sorta the Springsteen equivalent to David Bowie's Station to Station (another after-cutting-the- crap classic).

Tunnel of Love and E-Street Shuffle are the only 2 Springsteen albums I can listen to all the way through.

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Wednesday, 30 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

What??????

Born in the USA, Born to Run, Greetings..., god, so many, Nebraska, I can listen to Bruce all day long...

ty, Wednesday, 30 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I'm more concerned about the Bowie comparison - bad cover of "Across The Universe" aside, the superb Young Americans is much more pop- songly and direct than Station To Station, which works because it's so obviously a nightmarish accumulation of personal and sonic 'crap'. What crap was Bowie cutting?

Tom, Wednesday, 30 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

"Tunnel Of Love", the song, is my all-time Springsteen favorite. It doesn't tug at my heartstrings the way most of his best songs do; rather I think the arrangement is just incredible - I guess I react to it the way some of y'all respond to Timbaland productions. I like that it's both his most high-tech recording and one of his most Dylanesque performances vocally. The sharp electronic percussion, the tear-through-everything guitar solo, the layers upon layers of wordless backing vocals at the end, which just keep on building and building - they all turn a good song into a fantastic one. Plus those melodies have a quality that I can't quite put my finger on - it feels like I've heard them before, and that's probably all in my head, but it's a great feeling. Especially that "ooo-oo-oo-yeah-oo" melody towards the end, right before the "sha-na-na-na-na-yeah-heh" bit (I probably sound like Ally's mom now) - it instantly felt like I'd known that one all my life.

The rest of the album isn't quite as eventful to me as many of Springsteen's other records are - "Tougher Than The Rest" (which I recommend to guys putting together a mix tape for their sweeties), "Brilliant Disguise" and "One Step Up" are all top-notch, and touching, but some of the more low-key songs are just sort of there, pleasant and honest, but that's it.

BTW, I'm a bit baffled by the assertion that Tunnel Of Love is a better album because it's more pop. To me, Born In The USA has always felt more like the every-song-a-radio-smash album, and most of Tunnel Of Love is more in the introspective-singer-songwriter ballpark compared to his previous records.

Patrick, Wednesday, 30 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Patrick, the reason you probably feel like the melody at the end of "Tunnel of Love" is so familiar is because it's almost identical to Belinda Carlisle's "Heaven is a Place on Earth". If we're thinking of the same bit.

Sean Carruthers, Wednesday, 30 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

According to allmusic.com, Tunnel of Love came out in 1987 and Heaven on Earth came out in 1988, but I seem to recall at the time I heard the "Tunnel of Love" single that it sounded like the Carlisle single. Maybe the Carlisle single was out earlier? Maybe I was just drinking too much Jolt at the time, and my timeline is scrambled?

Sean Carruthers, Wednesday, 30 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

"Heaven Is A Place On Earth" = Bon Jovi's "You Give Love A Bad Name" = Laura Branigan's "The Lucky One". I'm not sure where "Tunnel Of Love" enters that picture, but I'm pretty sure I don't want it to ;). Nah, if it really is something I've heard before, it would probably be some french song on my mom's easy-listening station when I was a toddler - it feels like it would come from *way* back.

Patrick, Wednesday, 30 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Worth trading in if you can get Nils Lofgren's 'Back it Up' for it

tarden, Thursday, 31 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Patrick Calimero is spot-on re. the song 'Tunnel Of Love'. Allow me to endorse his really eloquent account of what's so tremendous about that track, which takes me by surprise and excites me every time I go back to it.

In fact that's true of the LP as a whole. It always amazes me how good it is. Come to think of it, it probably has to be my favourite Boss LP of all, Nebraska or no Nebraska. On ToL the Boss manages to be so utterly Boss-like, so much himself, and so darned endlessly entertaining with it.

the pinefox, Thursday, 31 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

wasnt it recorded when his marriage to julianne was breaking up, though, done in character narrative, you are right, it's really bruce and bruce only shining through each of the songs.

still somehow, he makes me feel like he really is working class fellow.

I really love that album.

ty@hotmail.com, Thursday, 31 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

one year passes...
Excellent, marvelously beautiful, brilliantly understated record. "Classic" might be a bit strong, but this is a great one. The kitchy Buddy-Holly-covers-Yardbirds romp of "Ain't Got You" is a highlight for me. Tougher Than the Rest is superb, but eclipsed by the marvelous live b-side on the Chimes of Freedom EP. Great record. Stands the test of time far better than the crassly & calculatedly commercial Born In the USA. That said, I suspect Bruce will never top the Born To Run, Darkness On the Edge of Town, The River trifecta - and I assert that the only people who don't think so are trying to out-hip everybody by picking something more obscure (Like Tunnel or E-Street Shuffle) to appear cool. Stop it.

John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Sunday, 9 March 2003 18:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

Nein! Synth-pop Bruce was the finest. The earlier stuff always reminds me of Meat Loaf.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 9 March 2003 18:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

Apart from "Nebraska" and "....Tom Joad", "Tunnel Of Love" is the closest Bruce Springsteen ever came to a true dud.

From "Tunnel Of Love" onwards, he has sounded a bit old and tired, seemingly not any more willing to rock like he did on "Born In The USA".

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 9 March 2003 19:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

eight months pass...
fuck i don't want to post after geir

amateur!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 23:54 (twenty years ago) link

I thought being melodic was more important than willingness to rock out.

man, Wednesday, 3 December 2003 00:21 (twenty years ago) link

one year passes...
Classic. His best album.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 22 August 2005 15:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Apart from "Nebraska" and "....Tom Joad", "Tunnel Of Love" is the closest Bruce Springsteen ever came to a true dud.

roffles

It's hard for me to imagine a best Bruce album that doesn't include the line "well they blew up the chicken man in philly last night, and they blew up his house too," but this is the one I return to most consistently.

Ty is correct - one side is definitely better than the other, and it ain't Side One, though "Tougher Than The Rest" is all-time.

rogermexico (rogermexico), Monday, 22 August 2005 16:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Classic. When it came out, I was in high school and dismissed it. It's certainly not meant for the kids, but it's a great album. The definition of maturity.

But my favorite is still Born In The USA. The songs on that album have spent way too many hours lodged in my head to pick anything else.

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Monday, 22 August 2005 17:39 (eighteen years ago) link

We recently talked about

Bruce Springsteen, "One Step Up," C or D

The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Monday, 22 August 2005 17:47 (eighteen years ago) link

The sequence from the title track to "Valentine's Day" is so beautiful it hurts.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 22 August 2005 18:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Alfred OTM there. When yer alone yer alone...

rogermexico (rogermexico), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 02:06 (eighteen years ago) link

two years pass...

Let us discuss the greatness of "Two Faces."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 21 September 2007 01:40 (sixteen years ago) link

six months pass...

Whoa, I pulled this thread up to write about how the guitar solo on "Two Faces" sounds like it was lifted from a Ween song, and here I am, commanded to discuss that very song. So anyway, the solo sounds like it was lifted from a Ween song.

Davey D, Friday, 28 March 2008 02:23 (sixteen years ago) link

Side two of this record, wow.

Mark Rich@rdson, Friday, 28 March 2008 04:46 (sixteen years ago) link

ten months pass...

I know people talk about the musical influence of Lou Christie on Bruce, just occured to me that Two Faces and Brilliant Disguise both feature lyrical nods to Lou.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 06:12 (fifteen years ago) link

I have actually changed my mind somewhat about this album. I still prefer Bruce Springsteen when he rocks, but at least some of the songs on this album are quite good. There are 2-3 exaggaratedly bluesy ones that I don't like at all, but tracks like "One Step Up" and "Where You're Alone" are really beautiful.

Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 22:36 (fifteen years ago) link

My favorite Springsteen album.

The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 22:37 (fifteen years ago) link

I played this album on the night before my wedding, much to the consternation of my groomsmen.

Euler, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 22:44 (fifteen years ago) link

i'm with alfred.

'brilliant disguise': the best song elvis never recorded. if only.

whatever, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 22:47 (fifteen years ago) link

The second side = oof.

The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 22:51 (fifteen years ago) link

The second side is devastatingly good, I assume you (correctly) mean. "Tougher Than The Rest" and "All That Heaven Will Allow" are incredible too (though it took me years of listening to the Mavericks' cover of the latter to come to love Bruce's version).

Euler, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 22:53 (fifteen years ago) link

oof?

whatever, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 23:02 (fifteen years ago) link

jesus do I really have to agree with Alfred on everything? really?

butt-rock miyagi (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 23:29 (fifteen years ago) link

Probably my favourite Boss LP, which is saying something.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 23:32 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...

could listen to last minute of "tunnel of love" on loop forever

double dutch bus schedule (donna rouge), Monday, 16 March 2009 04:45 (fifteen years ago) link

na na na na na na na na o-oh

butt-rock miyagi (rogermexico.), Monday, 16 March 2009 05:11 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

"walk like a man" is so pretty

this is the best album ever to be marred by two sucky songs. i just skip those. you know which ones they are.

by another name (amateurist), Saturday, 16 October 2010 08:11 (thirteen years ago) link

One's the first track, correct? At least I always start on "tougher than the rest" when I play this album. iirc, i love the other tracks, though.

musicfanatic, Saturday, 16 October 2010 13:06 (thirteen years ago) link

could listen to last minute of "tunnel of love" on loop forever

raging hetero lifechill (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 16 October 2010 13:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah I only count one sucky song and I don't really mind that one even.

Mark, Saturday, 16 October 2010 16:02 (thirteen years ago) link

not sure what're the sucky two: "Ain't Got You" and "Spare Parts"? The latter's awesome for the "pulled out" line, cos Bruce is rarely so frank.

Euler, Saturday, 16 October 2010 16:32 (thirteen years ago) link

In sequence "Spare Parts" is loud and squally. I would have loved hearing it on Tracks though.

raging hetero lifechill (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 16 October 2010 16:41 (thirteen years ago) link

It certainly doesn't "fit in".

Euler, Saturday, 16 October 2010 16:42 (thirteen years ago) link

spare parts and cautious man duh

by another name (amateurist), Saturday, 16 October 2010 18:46 (thirteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...

GAH SIDE TWO

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 7 October 2011 10:50 (twelve years ago) link

Side Two indeed.

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 October 2011 10:57 (twelve years ago) link

Still his most successful (that is, not boring) "mature" work. A stark line of catalog demarcation, at the least.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 October 2011 13:00 (twelve years ago) link

This has slowly turned into my favorite of his. It's either ToL or BitUSA.

musicfanatic, Friday, 7 October 2011 13:02 (twelve years ago) link

Even "Shoot Out the Lights" is subtle compared to this album's heavy themes.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 October 2011 13:05 (twelve years ago) link

I don't follow you...?

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 October 2011 13:09 (twelve years ago) link

When I saw Springsteen do a solo concert in October 2005, he redeemed "When You're Alone" (def the low point of Tunnel of Love).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0Ta56aW8zI

per metal injection (Eazy), Friday, 7 October 2011 13:15 (twelve years ago) link

The only song I skip are "Cautious Man" and "Spare Parts."

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 October 2011 13:20 (twelve years ago) link

*songs

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 October 2011 13:20 (twelve years ago) link

(Just realized I told that same story in the other ToL thread. Felt deja vu while typing it.)

per metal injection (Eazy), Friday, 7 October 2011 14:21 (twelve years ago) link

xpost What I meant to say (before I was dragged away from the computer) is that "Shoot Out the Lights," despite being one of the most famous marriage-in-crisis albums, is very much of a piece of just about any other Richard Thompson album, and had he and Linda not imploded right after its making I don't think anyone would have interpreted the album as unique in Thompson's catalog. Whereas "Tunnel of Love" is rife with an emotional fear and distress unlike anything else in Springsteen's catalog. It's no shock that his marriage fell apart soon after, and also no shock that he rarely plays these songs live, despite the fact that it sold millions, had several hits, etc. It's an intensely clear, lonely snapshot of a marriage - not just a relationship, but a marriage - falling apart that was also a massive hit. Kind of ironic.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 October 2011 14:52 (twelve years ago) link

The only song I skip are "Cautious Man" and "Spare Parts."

― lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, October 7, 2011 8:20 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

*songs

― lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, October 7, 2011 8:20 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark

me too.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 8 October 2011 00:11 (twelve years ago) link

I always like when an artist or band follows up a blockbuster album with one that's entirely different, yet still great. This is one of those albums...

Lee626, Saturday, 8 October 2011 00:45 (twelve years ago) link

i like spare parts a lot; how good an opening line is BOBBY SAID HE'D PULL OUT / BOBBY STAYED IN

the-dream in the witch house (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 8 October 2011 00:57 (twelve years ago) link

favorites here are "brilliant disguise" and "tougher than the rest" though.

the-dream in the witch house (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 8 October 2011 00:58 (twelve years ago) link

The title track, after all these years, still kills me.

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 8 October 2011 01:15 (twelve years ago) link

and "two faces" and "one step up" and

the-dream in the witch house (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 8 October 2011 01:16 (twelve years ago) link

This album has some of my favorite synth parts ever.

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 8 October 2011 01:33 (twelve years ago) link

And, on "Two Faces," a good example of a guitar that sounds like a synth. Or maybe it's a guitar and a synth doing the solo together?

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 8 October 2011 01:43 (twelve years ago) link

"Brilliant Disguise" video is classic:

http://www.vevo.com/watch/bruce-springsteen/brilliant-disguise/USSM20100485

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 8 October 2011 01:46 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, it's great and so is the song. Love it so much.

Juggy Brottleteen (ENBB), Saturday, 8 October 2011 01:49 (twelve years ago) link

I want him to come play in my kitchen. He's been busking in weird places lately so I figure I could probably make this happen.

Juggy Brottleteen (ENBB), Saturday, 8 October 2011 01:50 (twelve years ago) link

His best album for guitar solos, if that says anything

Master of Treacle, Saturday, 8 October 2011 02:01 (twelve years ago) link

i like spare parts a lot; how good an opening line is BOBBY SAID HE'D PULL OUT / BOBBY STAYED IN

underrated and great song on springsteen's best album.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 8 October 2011 02:03 (twelve years ago) link

this album is great. tougher than the rest 4 all time.

horseshoe, Saturday, 8 October 2011 03:30 (twelve years ago) link

It really is. Great, I mean.

Juggy Brottleteen (ENBB), Saturday, 8 October 2011 03:32 (twelve years ago) link

some girls they want a handsome Dan
or some good-lookin’ Joe,
on their arm some girls like a sweet-talkin’ Romeo

horseshoe, Saturday, 8 October 2011 10:56 (twelve years ago) link

tougher than the rest is my favorite springsteen song of all time rn

max, Saturday, 8 October 2011 12:08 (twelve years ago) link

I'm such a fan of Lou Christie, I'll have to give "Tunnel of Love" another go!!

some girls they want a handsome Dan
or some good-lookin’ Joe,
on their arm some girls like a sweet-talkin’ Romeo

― horseshoe, Saturday, October 8, 2011 3:56 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

WELL ROUND HERE BABY
I'VE LEARNED YOU GET WHAT YOU CAN GET

the-dream in the witch house (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 8 October 2011 14:41 (twelve years ago) link

i like that "round here" is a state of mind/stage of life rather than, like, a blue-collar town

the-dream in the witch house (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 8 October 2011 14:41 (twelve years ago) link

or at least can be

the-dream in the witch house (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 8 October 2011 14:46 (twelve years ago) link

i like that "round here" is a state of mind/stage of life rather than, like, a blue-collar town

so is "good-looking joe"

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 8 October 2011 14:49 (twelve years ago) link

Would've been great if that was the lip-synced song in The Crying Game.

per metal injection (Eazy), Saturday, 8 October 2011 14:55 (twelve years ago) link

I've listened the hell outta that remix of "Tougher Than The Rest" that got posted here a few months ago.

Euler, Saturday, 8 October 2011 15:47 (twelve years ago) link

one year passes...

once again, SIDE TWO

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Sunday, 22 September 2013 05:22 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

Then Play Long on Tunnel of Love, Tom Waits, Blackpool and much else: http://nobilliards.blogspot.co.uk/2014/11/bruce-springsteen-tunnel-of-love.html

agincourtgirl, Sunday, 23 November 2014 17:23 (nine years ago) link

Very intriguing parallels to Joy Division I'd never considered.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 23 November 2014 17:51 (nine years ago) link

Probably because they're way off beam.

rising tones cross (anagram), Sunday, 23 November 2014 18:22 (nine years ago) link

I heard Bruce was listening to nothing but Joy Division and New Order when he recorded this. I know he covered "BLT" pretty much every night of the tour in the middle of the Roy Orbison medley.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 23 November 2014 19:45 (nine years ago) link

seven years pass...

there are at least five reasons why Brilliant Disguise is a fun karaoke selection, ranging from musical reasons at the beginning to jokey-but-still-real reasons at the end of the list:

1) narrative, vocals and lyrics driven song, few instrumental breaks
2) it's got all the classic springsteen stuff you've come to expect from the boss - it's got the edge of town, it's got a cold night, it's got betrayal, and it's got 7 different mentions of "baby"
3) the musical accompaniment, even on the Tunnel of Love recording, sounds like karaoke, so no matter what kind of machine/youtube you're using, it sounds authentically thin
4) opportunity to explore some of the turmoil of your relationships in a safe setting with supportive friends
5) you can draw something awful on your sweaty palm using a sharpie beforehand, and then reveal it during "But just don't look too close / Into the palm of my hand"

6) check out this acoustic version from 1990. i love this version, especially the different spin he puts on the melody in various parts. also love how he politely asks people in the audience to NOT clap along, haha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdiVSrcjm1M

Karl Malone, Monday, 4 April 2022 16:06 (two years ago) link

also some of the best closing lines in the history of music

Tonight our bed is cold
Lost in the darkness of our love
God have mercy on the man
Who doubts what he's sure of

Karl Malone, Monday, 4 April 2022 16:10 (two years ago) link


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