C/D--Nine Inch Nails

Trent is somewhat of a confused popist I think. For the Fragile, he seemed to try and apply some of his "industrial" ways to forms other then hard rock. The problem was, he took his persona and angst and gothitude instead of his phat synth beats.

A completely insightful comment. Trent is a frustrated popsmith trapped in a scowling industrial cyberpunk's bodyarmour. I, for one, would love it if he completely pulled the 180 he's been threatening and came out with an unapologetic pop record that completely dropped all the sci-fi/angst/bondage/goth shenanigans. Let his former protogee, Marilyn Manson, milk that particular cow dry while Trent could take on Timbaland and the Neptunes as THE inventive producer to be reckoned with.

I always get that feeling that he's still got this potential for a really incredible album, although I confess my hopes sorta wavered after the Fragile. It had the sound of someone falling out of touch with reality, which is always what brings down the Great Big Artists (unless they're out of touch to begin with, like Madonna).

And what the fuck is with the "halo #" thing? I never got that.

The halo thing is just numbering his releases. I think it's a savvy play to the hardcore among his fan base, like my freaky friends.

This particular drunk story mentioned up there some took place at Bethany College, like 20 miles north of Wheeling I think. I dunno, I'm from Steubenville OH, right across the river from Weirton WV, and Bethany was like a 30 minute drive south.

And while I'm not too excited over With Teeth, I am hyped up about the upcoming DFA remix. Woo!

Got out my copy of The Fragile the other day. Most of that album is really not good! And what drove me up the wall wasn't just lyrics, it was the way the songs were so calculated, structurally - so predictable - verse, chorus, verse, repeat, add sound layer, add sound layer, add sound layer, add singsong refrain, drop them all out, blast of everything at once, repeat.

Overall, I still like the Fragile a lot despite its flaws.

I find that this doesn't bother me on the really great tracks, however, notably throughout The Downward Spiral.

Dude, I've lived in the States for 3 years. [pats head]. Who knew?

that may have been a warning sign, I think.

I agree that Fixed was better than Broken but I large chunks of The Fragile were fantastic. Maybe I'm just very easy to entertain but "The Wretched", "The Fragile", "We're In This Together Now" and "Into The Void" rank up there among my favorite Trent songs.

Pretty Hate Machine is still amazingly innovative, even if its sound is dated at this point.

:::splutter:::;

WHAT? Ministry and Skinny Puppy might vociferously dispute that.

Beginning at 4:00. Has anyone noticed the similarity?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVU00zallHg

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay

http://www.vulture.com/2013/02/nine-inch-nails-will-tour-this-year.html

As promised, Trent Reznor is bringing Nine Inch Nails back, though with a brand-new lineup. "The band is reinventing itself from scratch and will be comprised of Eric Avery, Adrian Belew, Alessandro Cortini, Josh Eustis, Ilan Rubin, and me," according to Reznor's statement. The arena tour kicks off this fall in the U.S. and goes international in 2014. More details (presumably with an album announcement?) to come, he says.

!!!! Eric Avery

Josh Eustis of Telefon Tel Aviv!

although I guess Adrian Belew is really the most notable? pretty crazy addition, there

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yeah and Belew too! i'm v excited

although I guess Adrian Belew is really the most notable? pretty crazy addition, there

It isn't crazy at all! That's him on guitar on "Mr. Self Destruct," check the credits. Two of them have been buds for a long while now.

just me being ageist, I guess. Didn't expect anyone born before 1950 to get added to Reznor's tourist roster in 2013!

Josh Eustis of Telefon Tel Aviv!

that's the best part of this for me, happy for him.

I am fearful that Nine Inch Nails "reinventing itself from scratch" with a slew of new musicians involved will approximate Guns N' Roses with just Axl Rose and we'll get another "Chinese Democracy." But maybe not since unlike the Gunners, Nine Inch Nails always was about Trent Reznor and never really felt like a collaborative project.

well, also Trent has worked with most of these people at one point or another over the past 20 years

Trent's always played mix n'match with his touring band, so this isn't any kind of deathknell for NIN.

GNR/Chinese Democracy is a whole different kettle of rotten, indedible fish.

can't wait for the NIN version of "Big Electric Cat"

Two things:

1) Chinese Democracy is a really good album, fuckyoushutup.

2) Adrian Belew is one of the worst things to ever happen to a guitar.

NIN live has been all hired guns, doubly so in the 2000s

all the live shows I saw in the 2000s were killer so he could hire circus animals at this point and I wouldn't bat an eyelid.

i was all 'uh huh' about this until i saw that it happened because reznor was working with belew on musical ideas

now i won't sleep until i hear something

One way or another I will finally see NIN live on this tour

1) Chinese Democracy is a really good album, fuckyoushutup.

2) Adrian Belew is one of the worst things to ever happen to a guitar.

Double wrong.

Has NIN ever made it an entire tour with the same line-up? Dude is always changing things and replacing people. Also, they have always been awesome live.

Also, anyone who does not think Belew a good fit has not heard latter-day Crimson.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gQ1aAaV2H0

I am fearful that Nine Inch Nails "reinventing itself from scratch" with a slew of new musicians involved will approximate Guns N' Roses with just Axl Rose and we'll get another "Chinese Democracy." But maybe not since unlike the Gunners, Nine Inch Nails always was about Trent Reznor and never really felt like a collaborative project.

I don't really think anything compares with the shitshow that was Axl Rose in the last twenty years but suffice to say, give Trent a little more credit than this

Yeah, Trent - is it OK if I call him Trent? - has yet to disappoint or give less than 100%. Unlike Axl, who gives what Axl wants to give, and certainly does not give a shit.

yeah and even though Trent disbanded NIN he was *productive* in the time that NIN has been away. The same cannot be said for Axl's looong hiatus of indecision and paranoia. Until Trent holes up in a mansion with a piano and no output for 5+ years I think we're good

2) Adrian Belew is one of the worst things to ever happen to a guitar.

This has to be among the statements that I've disagreed with the most in ILM history.

Studio-wise, Trent Reznor *is* NIN. I don't believe that anyone's really had writing credits outside of him. He disbanded the group he had been touring with for a while and took a break from writing music under that moniker.

I was never really into GN'R but I don't think anyone has ever believed that the band was best defined as "Axl Rose and some other dudes" outside of Axl Rose.

NIN spent more time not touring or releasing anything between The Fragile and With Teeth than this little break, although i give Trent credit for never saying 'this is the end,' i guess he just felt the need to dial down fans' expectations and ask for breathing room to do these other projects.

i really dug Ghosts I-IV and The Slip and thought NIN was heading in an interesting direction at the time, also the only time i've seen them live was in '08 and it was amazing, so i'm def looking forward to this. still haven't checked out the How To Destroy Angels record yet.

Al we may wind up at the same show

is that your cryptic way of saying you may be moving back to maryland?!

Back to PA, but yeah

ahh still!

no, "still" was an ep post-The Fragile

yeah, fwiw, you can hear belew on a number of more recent NIN tunes if you look at the liner notes for ghosts. wouldn't be too crazy to think they might try fleshing some of those tunes out.

2) Adrian Belew is one of the worst things to ever happen to a guitar.

this comment entirely disgusts me

i really didn't know there were people who disliked Adrian Belew!

There aren't.

Um. I'll just leave this here.

Head Like a Hole mashed with Call Me Maybe

oh shit

t < 30s (-_-) t > 30s ＼(^o^)／

From the Nine Inch Nails Reddit AMA:

Q) Why did Trent announce a new NIN tour at the same time your new album is releasing if he is trying to not be a frontrunner of the band? Odd coincidence in my opinion.

As millionaires, why did you sign up with a record label to promote your new album? Especially when Trent has had a history of being screwed over by said labels and managers. If it's really about the music and getting it out to as many people as possible, why not release it all for free? I understand if you want to make money. It makes sense to want money for your work. However, I don't buy the "get it to as many people as possible" excuse for signing up with a label. Again, especially when Trent conveniently places a spotlight on his former cash cow a few days before your band releases this new album.

Good marketing, Gene Sim-, er, Trent Reznor.
When can I get my NIN toothpaste?

Rezor's reply:

Sorry, the wifi on our yacht is having issues, we can't get your full question to load. Try sending me an email at gofuckyours✧✧✧@youc✧✧✧.c✧✧

The person who asked the question just doubled down, which I suppose is noble to a degree...

http://www.reddit.com/user/no12345?sort=new

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhyyQZ67544&feature=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv5O145MC0Y

Hahahahaha! 'March Of The Pigs' translates very well!

Right, I'm going to listen to that whole thing next time I'm alone in the house for an hour.

Trent is somewhat of a confused popist I think

Really? :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJYBx5NJULY

New song: http://www.stereogum.com/1917494/nine-inch-nails-burning-bright-field-on-fire/music/?utm_source=sc-fb&utm_medium=ref&utm_campaign

Kind of cool as a noisy sludge-rock guitar jam, even if there's not that much of a song there.

it's literally a dandy warhols cover :D

Year Zero has been very satisfying to listen to this past week.

This EP is great! Been a while since I was pretty amped from a new NIN release.