Lenny Kravitz - Classic or Dud?

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The wife loves'im, but I'm inclined to think he's a fatuous clown. Still, the man clearly knows his way around a hook. Whether it's pale mimicry fueled by hapless, idealistic naivitee and hipppy dippy bluster or some vague semblance of the definite article of "RAWK", people seem to either love him or hate him. I find him too silly to take seriously, but since his greatest hits have been getting a worrying amount of airplay `round the house, I've come to at least appreciate his knack for riffs (most notably on "Are You Gonna Go My Way?").

Seems he's a bit washed-up these days too, being that his last album, LENNY, seemed to sink without a trace.

What say you? Are you going to go his way or do you wish he'd make good on his threat and fly away?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 2 January 2003 19:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

a fatuous clown

Couldn't have put it any better myself. So I won't.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 2 January 2003 19:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

First couple albums, pretty good. Not necessarily classic, but not duds either.

Nowadays, blech, as dudly as they get. A male model with a guitar. "I want to get away...I want to flyyyyy awaaaay...yeah, yeah". Ugh.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 2 January 2003 19:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

Some critic in Spin when discussing Circus noted that his songs are like theses. "Are You Gonna Go My Way? (The Power of Jimi Hendrix)", "It Ain't Over Till It's Over (The Smooth Sensuality of Curtis Mayfield). At his best they do have the effect of streamlining some quality of another artist you enjoy. But "Again" was a thesis about Bryan Adams, definitely a step down. And "Dig In", to me, almost sounded like the Pixies. But he's got no personality himself, so songs like "Fly Away" (ones where I can't catch the reference point) do nothing for me.

Not to mention his Guess Who thesis was his least imaginative yet.

And he's got the most uninspired "yeahs" ever. In almost every song.

I do like the line "we've got to love/and rub a dub."

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 2 January 2003 19:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

dud is as dud does

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Thursday, 2 January 2003 20:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

LK should change his name to Dudley Do-Dud

Horace Mann, Thursday, 2 January 2003 20:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

"And "Dig In", to me, almost sounded like the Pixies."

What are you smonking, Anthony? It must be some powerful stuff.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 2 January 2003 21:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

right now? A hamster that was force-fed cocaine and then wrapped in a fruit roll-up.

Mainly the guitars, drums and the structure. Not the yeah yeah yeeeahhhs or the vocals is what made me think of the Pixies.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 2 January 2003 21:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

While tracks like Let Love Rule show honest merit, i doubt the guy will ever be known as much more than a fashion footnote. ¥

christoff (christoff), Thursday, 2 January 2003 22:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

can't stand him...

robin (robin), Friday, 3 January 2003 01:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

dud is one hell of an understatement. this man's music is positively atrocious. absolutely ZERO redeeming qualities.

juice, Friday, 3 January 2003 01:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

I liked "Mr Cab Driver" when I was 15 cos it had a rude word in it. But ever since I grew the fuck up a bit, I've hated him with a passion bordering on obsession: he's a one-man Toploader and that just ain't right.

Charlie (Charlie), Friday, 3 January 2003 02:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drf100/f198/f19830wskvi.jpg

Album covers don't get much more punchable. Dud.

original bgm, Friday, 3 January 2003 03:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

dud

Savin All My Love 4 u (Savin 4ll my (heart) 4u), Friday, 3 January 2003 06:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

I revelled in the fact that there was a prominent booger in his right nostril when he was on SNL with Jay-Z.

Leee (Leee), Friday, 3 January 2003 06:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

He's not a dud, he's a nobhead.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Friday, 3 January 2003 14:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

I revelled in the fact that there was a prominent booger in his right nostril when he was on SNL with Jay-Z.
Note to self: never wear the emerald nosering with the jewel on INSIDE of the nose.

He's not a dud, he's a nobhead.
Yeah but I still resent that he got a knobshine from Lisa Bonet.

Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Friday, 3 January 2003 14:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

"He's not a dud, he's a nobhead."
"Yeah but I still resent that he got a knobshine from Lisa Bonet."

That is, indeed, a massive bone(r) of contention.

Do we hate him 'cos we're jealous?

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Friday, 3 January 2003 14:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'd love to be able to write a song as slick and melodic as IAOTIO however 'derivative' it might be. I can take or leave the rest.

Marc Bolan was a male model with a guitar!

chris sallis, Friday, 3 January 2003 23:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

one year passes...
"It Ain't Over Til It's Over" is one of my favourite songs of all time. The rest of it is shit.

adam. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 05:15 (nineteen years ago) link

"It Ain't Over Til It's Over" is a good song. The rest of it is caca.

tremendoid, Tuesday, 31 August 2004 05:28 (nineteen years ago) link

I quite like "It Ain't Over Til It's Over". The rest can die a horrible death.

Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 05:36 (nineteen years ago) link

CLASSIC for his 1973-state-of-the-art recording techniques (analog mixing board and all), a couple of his album covers, and a handful of pretty good tunes.

Otherwise, DUD

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 07:54 (nineteen years ago) link

FUCKING DUDUDUDUDUDUDUDUDUDUDUDUDUUDUDUDUDUDUDUDUDUDUDUDUDUD
I'm not even gonna give him credit for IAOTIO

AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 08:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Black Velveteen is awesome

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 08:23 (nineteen years ago) link

lots of men seem to hate him cos they know their partners/prospective partners would do anything to jump his bones.

anyway, lenny is an unashamed rock xerox machine, but that aside, when his lyrics arent shit or full of endless stupid questions (where are we running? etc etc), i find him to be a really great if retro minded producer (the led zep-style sounds he got on circus and other albums was fantastic), and his beatles/70s lennon fetish can be quite fun too. i also think he is a good songwriter when he wants to be (are you gonna go my way, it aint over...., half a dozen others) and has great hooks and riffs. i mean, if the strokes can ape the sound of late 70s/early 80s new york for two albums in a row, im not sure why its so bad if leonard wants to pretend hes locked into a 70s vortex.

dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 08:30 (nineteen years ago) link

four years pass...

this song is the shit imo

joe 40oz (deej), Monday, 6 October 2008 02:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Even if I have no real use for him, I've never understood the hatred he inspires.

© 2008 (The Reverend), Monday, 6 October 2008 02:42 (fifteen years ago) link

He's LOUD, he's BORING, and he clearly thinks he's some sort of genre-savior. His excursions outside of mummy-rock are actually not bad ("Black Velveteen" and "Believe" are both nice), and frankly I don't think anybody would really care if "Fly Away" and "American Woman" hadn't been played at least once per hour on every radio station for like six months each. Given how painfully repetitious "Fly Away" is on even one listen, hearing it seriously hundreds of times just kills you.

Doctor Casino, Monday, 6 October 2008 02:55 (fifteen years ago) link

OK, I just tried to look up "Believe" on YouTube, and apparently, just to be an asshole (or to Google-proof his good songs), he's put out a single called "Believe In Me."

Doctor Casino, Monday, 6 October 2008 03:05 (fifteen years ago) link

Coming soon: "Are You Gonna Go Away" and "Let Love (Rule)."

Doctor Casino, Monday, 6 October 2008 03:05 (fifteen years ago) link

Even if I have no real use for him, I've never understood the hatred he inspires.

oh i understand it very well -- his whole "the 70s is where it was AT" schtick is just about all he has going for him. then there's his prissy insistence on "authenticity" to said schtick -- which may be forgivable if his talent wasn't so mediocre.

Eisbaer, Monday, 6 October 2008 03:20 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

i would have said RESOUNDING DUD until i saw this video and now i gotta say that i have felt a positive feeling for lenny kravitz. sure, he's showboating, but so is that awesome nerd guitar kid.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/peggy/lenny-kravitz-crashes-church-choir

an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 15:37 (thirteen years ago) link

On the one hand, his music is airbrushed soft rock. On the other hand (as that video proves) at least he's not a dick like Axl Rose.

ninjas and lasers and gold and (snoball), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 15:48 (thirteen years ago) link

I suppose that from Kravitz's point of view, that it's a shame that the Larkin Law doesn't work in reverse.

ninjas and lasers and gold and (snoball), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 15:50 (thirteen years ago) link

He should be locked in a room and forced to listen to his version of "American Woman" until he screams for mercy and avows to give up rock. Gibby Haynes and Paul Leary should preside.

grandavis, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 16:00 (thirteen years ago) link

his music is abysmal! i agree, and i never thought i could feel one single positive feeling for lenny kravitz, but...i watched that video and i did. i caught a small positive feeling. by no means do i want to listen to his music, but he seems alright as a human being.

an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 16:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Well he only has two decent riffs: 'Fly Away', which is a Curtis Mayfield grab, and 'Are You Gonna Go My Way', which is sort of Hendrix by way of Stones/Zep.

ninjas and lasers and gold and (snoball), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 16:22 (thirteen years ago) link

The fact that 'Fly Away' was used for a car commercial while it was still near the top of the UK singles makes me dislike him a tiny bit more.

ninjas and lasers and gold and (snoball), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 16:23 (thirteen years ago) link

Also I just remembered some old MTV advert from years ago:

(Interior: a guitar store. LENNY KRAVITZ walks in the door and goes over to the counter, behind which is the STORE CLERK)

KRAVITZ: "I want a <insert long list of guitars related stuff here>."

CLERK (incredulously): "That's a lot of stuff!"

KRAVITZ: "Well I'm gonna need it!"

CLERK (still incredulously): "Why?"

KRAVITZ (looking directly at the camera): "I'm going on tour!"

ninjas and lasers and gold and (snoball), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 16:32 (thirteen years ago) link

he is so embarrassing

an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 16:40 (thirteen years ago) link

As he played in the background at Trader Joe's last night, I thought to myself that his music seems to exist primarily to be licensed.

bendy, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 16:59 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Massive, massive lols @ how awful "Boongie Drop" is. Why Hov, why? Now I want to hear how awful the one with Drake is.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 20:27 (twelve years ago) link

feel like lenny has been lying awake at night lately, wondering why jagger didn't invite him to join superheavy.

tylerw, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 20:30 (twelve years ago) link

lol

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 20:31 (twelve years ago) link

Ok, yeah, "Sunflower" with Drake is awful too.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 20:57 (twelve years ago) link

one year passes...

"Again" is underrated. You can appreciate his music, if you want, with the same distance that allowed people to finally appreciate Journey et al. ten years ago.

Cunga, Saturday, 23 February 2013 20:48 (eleven years ago) link

I liked his debut and "It Ain't Over Til It's Over."

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 23 February 2013 20:50 (eleven years ago) link

Agreed about "Again," that one worms itself into the brain quickly (though I think it wears out its welcome - dude REALLY loved to repeat a chorus ad infinitum). Heard "It Ain't Over Til It's Over" in the drug store the other day and was totally tapping my foot and getting into it, sort of not believing it was a Lenny Kravitz song even though the voice was unmistakable. Good song.

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 23 February 2013 22:27 (eleven years ago) link

I think all artists, should they happen across street performances of their music, should handle it like Lenny did:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBgZNINN6MU

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Saturday, 23 February 2013 22:42 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

lenny does a mean elvis costello voice!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAHlQ77lm10
(might want to skip to 1:30 to hear it)

niels, Sunday, 28 September 2014 14:13 (nine years ago) link

three years pass...

When Lenny Kravitz asks "Are you gonna go my way?" it's a dilemma to respond: yes, in the long term - the grave - but not via the same path

— Robyn Hitchcock (@RobynHitchcock) October 24, 2017

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 24 October 2017 21:54 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

YEAAAHHHH YEAHHHHHHHH

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 November 2017 03:59 (six years ago) link

I don't know where I saw this, and I might have concocted it from something different in which case sorry -- but it's my favorite thing to do with Lenny Kravitz. Apparently Nirvana were recording Nevermind in the same studio as Kravitz. One night the three of them were drinking and commandeered the studio intercom, and Krist broadcast throughout the studio, "Will Lenny Kravitz please report to the principal's office, I repeat: Lenny Kravitz to the principal's office."

That has always cracked me up.

Sam Weller, Thursday, 30 November 2017 16:47 (six years ago) link

I don't like the song much but I'm endlessly amused by this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8t-iFr9q1I8

frogbs, Thursday, 30 November 2017 17:20 (six years ago) link

oh I missed this comment

Someone recently confirmed for me that Lenny Kravitz heard this and his reply was "What the hell"

frogbs, Thursday, 30 November 2017 17:21 (six years ago) link

seven months pass...

total shit

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Thursday, 26 July 2018 03:35 (five years ago) link

I agree. One of my most hated artists (and I don’t hate many).

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Thursday, 26 July 2018 03:39 (five years ago) link

five years pass...

Interesting that he inspires so much hate on here. The first three albums are good to great IMO. Just heard 'Sister' for the first time in ages and dang.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ktc4oc5eDxU

I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Friday, 13 October 2023 20:44 (six months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--rBP8_QuwI
'American Woman' vs 'Fly Away'

you gotta roll with the pączki to get to what's real (snoball), Friday, 13 October 2023 21:05 (six months ago) link

His 2014 album Strut had a really good guitar sound. I liked this song a lot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5_pstB8pGM

read-only (unperson), Friday, 13 October 2023 21:20 (six months ago) link

xpost The dedication to the bit has restored some of my faith in ... (sigh) I dunno, youtube?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 13 October 2023 22:08 (six months ago) link


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