All About Liz Fraser: Search & Destroy non-Cocteau stuff, RFI, etc.

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Can do without C/D because the answer is obvious.

The RFI because I've wondered for a long time how she developed her inimitable (save for Faye Wong) style, especially who her influences are.

And search: This Mortal Coil - "Another Day"; "Song to the Siren"
Destroy: that one from the Crow sdtk "Medicine Baby III"

Leee (Leee), Friday, 3 January 2003 07:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

Search "primitive painters" by Felt.

Captain Sleep (Captain Sleep), Friday, 3 January 2003 08:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

search mezzanine.

toby (tsg20), Friday, 3 January 2003 09:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

TOTALLY search _Mezzanine_!!!

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 3 January 2003 14:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

Here's a link from the Cocteau Twins web page, listing all of Liz's collaborations:

http://www.cocteautwins.com/html/theband/liz_fraser.html#collaborations

Ernest P. (ernestp), Friday, 3 January 2003 19:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

Sadly, I fear this will be a rather short thread.

Get a move on Liz!

chris sallis, Friday, 3 January 2003 22:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

Search "The Moon and the Melodies".

chris sallis, Friday, 3 January 2003 22:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

search the single of FSOL's 'Lifeforms' she sang on - i think there are two versions in fact

stevem (blueski), Saturday, 4 January 2003 16:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

search Craig Armstrong's 'This Love' too

stevem (blueski), Saturday, 4 January 2003 16:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

Actually seven versions of "Lifeforms", eight if you count the album version on which she doesn't appear.

Leee (Leee), Sunday, 5 January 2003 04:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

destroy the 7" by Bom that she supposedly sings on. I can't tell, and the single is rub.

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Sunday, 5 January 2003 06:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

Aww, don't harsh too much on "Time Baby III" -- the Medicine / Cocteaus connection wasn't exactly the most workable thing in the world, but the track wasn't too bad, and and and ... I dunno, I think Medicine are one of those bands that I always want to cut a lot of slack for, largely because Shot Forth Self Living was fantastic and no one ever paid much attention to them beyond the Crow soundtrack.

nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 6 January 2003 06:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

search Craig Armstrong's 'This Love' too

Seconded. And search that one that goes "whooooeooooobloooooopeeeedooooowehheeeeee".

Charlie (Charlie), Monday, 6 January 2003 06:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

I said destroy Time Baby for much the same reason as the Bom song, because she was barely present in the song. I can't remember how the rest of it went though.

Destroy: her solo "Underwater." Uhh, trance? If it were not for her singing on it, it'd be downright dreadful, but as it stands, it's only mediocre.

Leee (Leee), Monday, 6 January 2003 06:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

four years pass...
Word is the solo album is *finally* coming out on Blanco y Negro in spring.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 02:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Search: Moose - "Play God," The Bathers - "The Angel on Ruskin," Spooky - "Hypo-Allergenic"
Destroy: The Wolfgang Press - "RESPECT," Fuel - "Butterfly Knife"

Ghost Bear Junior High Attendance Party (Ghost Bear Junior High Attenda), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 04:45 (seventeen years ago) link

This has also been mentioned on the "hey 2007... what's happening?" thread, but now this thread has been revived:

http://www.side-line.com/news_comments.php?id=19872_0_2_0_C

(it's also mentioned on her official home page)

StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 08:14 (seventeen years ago) link

she's also composing music for a Shakespeare sonnet to be featured in a one-off event for the RSC in Stratford-upon-Avon, together with Gavin Friday (!), Antony, and Natalie Merchant...

http://www.rsc.org.uk/newsandevents/events/3568.aspx

I hear Mr. Friday is definitely appearing at the event, not sure whether Liz Fraser will be as well

thomas g (thomas), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 16:21 (seventeen years ago) link

search: Chemical (nee Dust) Brothers...

hank (hank s), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 16:26 (seventeen years ago) link

That Bathers song is great, a performance of it is available on youtube.

I dont read ILM so forgive me if I'm redundant here but who has heard LucyBelle Guthrie's stuff? Her track singing with Mahogany is really nice, though I'm inclined to wonder how much Dad's production made her just sound like her mother, because the other stuff of hers on her Myspace sounds ... well, it didn't grab me so.

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 01:28 (seventeen years ago) link

I dont read ILM so forgive me if I'm redundant here but who has heard LucyBelle Guthrie's stuff?

Good god, and I remember when she was born.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 01:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I saw her sometime in the 90s at a David Sylvian concert at Town Hall in NYC, wearing a long white flowing dress and paying rapt attention...did they ever work together?

douglas eklund (skolle), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 01:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Good god, and I remember when she was born.

Yes! I thought this was a joke at first but, no - she must be 17, 18? I remember reading about her birth in Melody Maker!

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 17:59 (seventeen years ago) link

oh wow GROUP FOUR, one of the most awesomely original songs I've ever heard.

You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 18:14 (seventeen years ago) link

xxposts

hey, that kid on the cover of Nevermind is practically old enough to vote...

hank (hank s), Thursday, 11 January 2007 15:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Did he ever catch that dollar?

StanM (StanM), Thursday, 11 January 2007 16:21 (seventeen years ago) link

he did, Stan...he spent it on a comic book...

hank (hank s), Thursday, 11 January 2007 16:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Lucy Belle:

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewPicture&friendID=69909271

She looks just like her mum!


Her myspace is: http://myspace.com/lucybelleguthrie

blood bitch (blood bitch), Thursday, 11 January 2007 20:23 (seventeen years ago) link

rrraaaaaaaaahhh.

http://myspace-978.vo.llnwd.net/00742/87/95/742165978_m.jpg

blood bitch (blood bitch), Thursday, 11 January 2007 20:24 (seventeen years ago) link

DIF JUZ collab!

Cameron Octigan (Cameron Octigan), Thursday, 11 January 2007 21:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Please don't send me on a Dif Juz trip. You don't understand they're one of my top 3 fave bands ever. Don't get me started. I almost pulled out the Lonely Is An Eyesore video a few weeks ago. I still know where it is. Don't get me started. I'm warning you I love that reggae dub vibe on their early EP don't get me started...

Good Warlock of the West (Bimble...), Thursday, 11 January 2007 21:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Please start. Give me some super fan inside info. I love them.

Cameron Octigan (Cameron Octigan), Thursday, 11 January 2007 21:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Well a few years ago I just happened to find three live gigs of them circa 85 on s**k, I mean sXXXk. That's right, triple X like the porn films.

Also I do have their first rare cassette release "Time Clock Turns Back" (with a picture of a monkey on the cover) but it's really not very good compared to the rest of their entire career.

Good Warlock of the West (Bimble...), Thursday, 11 January 2007 21:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Okay forget you all, I'm going to play the Lonely is An Eyesore video now. Don't forget it has Cocteaus too so nah nah nah I'm still not off topic!

Good Warlock of the West (Bimble...), Thursday, 11 January 2007 21:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Hoorah, though I never thought Liz's solo would be released before Portishead's third studio album.

c('°c) (Leee), Thursday, 11 January 2007 22:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah that's weird about Portishead isn't it? When their first album came out everyone really flipped over it and yet they disappeared...and then I did hear they had a second one...but their momentum really fizzled, I'd say. It's like they missed some window of opportunity or something.

White Dopes on Punk (Bimble...), Saturday, 13 January 2007 09:15 (seventeen years ago) link

The second one is almost as good as (many would say better than) the debut. It contains their best song (Half Day Closing), which might just be the most bloodlettingly operatic sub-four-minute wrist-slitter you'll ever hear.

You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Saturday, 13 January 2007 12:48 (seventeen years ago) link

there's a fairly recent Chic/Wyatt cover (At Last I Am Free) on a Rough Trade 25-year-celebration album which is goosepimples-inducing.

Max Blazevic (kitaj), Saturday, 13 January 2007 22:25 (seventeen years ago) link

(just buy the track from iTunes in blind faith.)

Max Blazevic (kitaj), Saturday, 13 January 2007 22:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Bimble I love Dif Juz to bits. When I was in high school we went on a camp the year LIAE came out or thereabouts, and I remember driving around through dense forsts listening to "No Motion" on repeat... ahhh lovely stuff.

Good god, and I remember when she was born.

Exact WAAAHT reaction I had, as well! I mean, it seems like Heaven or Las Vegas came out a few years ago, which I think was the one with all the clucky baby-themed songs on (like "suckling the mender" and "pur" with its "I'm glad you are a girl/I'm pleased to know you" etc etc.

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 15 January 2007 02:43 (seventeen years ago) link

which might just be the most bloodlettingly operatic sub-four-minute wrist-slitter you'll ever hear.

Considering there's people like Diamanda Galas out there, this somehow feels a wee teeny bit hyperbolic.

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 15 January 2007 02:45 (seventeen years ago) link

seven months pass...

No mention of the sublime "Candleland" she did with Ian McCulloch? I think it's only on the single version though. Someone should put together a playlist with just her collaborations.

Mr. Odd, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 00:05 (sixteen years ago) link

So whatever did happen to this solo album?

Trayce, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 03:30 (sixteen years ago) link

her website now has a bit for a mailing list, & i was reading something earlier about the album being nearly finished, working with ex spiritualized people etc etc. but now i cant find it!

zappi, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 03:35 (sixteen years ago) link

I think I remember hearing that very tidbit 5 years ago. :\

Leee, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 16:28 (sixteen years ago) link

four months pass...

Well?
A blue rinsed warble emits and it kills us

Fer Ark, Saturday, 2 February 2008 02:01 (sixteen years ago) link

two months pass...

I'm having a hard time justifying, as an atheist, why Jeff Buckley & Liz Fraser should ever have been in the same room together recording a song. "All Flowers In Time", etc. It absolutely defies the existence of a god, you understand that? That those two individuals should have sung on the same track ever in their lives is absolutely insane. That's better than any flavor of ice cream you might find in your town.

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Sunday, 13 April 2008 18:42 (sixteen years ago) link

last two posts VMIC

banriquit, Sunday, 13 April 2008 18:45 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Elizabeth Fraser back (with silver hair)!

interview

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/nov/26/cocteau-twins-elizabeth-fraser-interview

For 18 years, she was the 'voice of God' in the Cocteau Twins. Now Elizabeth Fraser finds it too difficult even to think about her old bandmates

Moses is out on 7in and download on Rough Trade on 30 November.

djmartian, Thursday, 26 November 2009 22:57 (fourteen years ago) link

Fantastic interview, very frank! She's aged so much so recently it seems! Maybe Ive just not seen pics of her in about 5-6 years.

hulk would smash (Trayce), Thursday, 26 November 2009 23:43 (fourteen years ago) link

oooh looking forward to Moses

sonderangerbot, Friday, 27 November 2009 00:02 (fourteen years ago) link

two months pass...

Good interview. I am so glad she never did anything with linkin park. I don't even want to imagine how awkward that would sound like.

van smack, Monday, 15 February 2010 02:51 (fourteen years ago) link

six years pass...

Oh heeeeeeey

http://www.clashmusic.com/news/elizabeth-fraser-contributes-to-bbc-score

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07g6tmn

(Skip ahead to 1 hour, 44 minutes.)

Ned Raggett, Monday, 27 June 2016 23:34 (seven years ago) link

five years pass...

wow! i have no idea where her music is at these days (does anyone? other than some appearances with massive attack recently?) but will definitely check out.

also, i just read through that guardian interview posted upthread (https://www.theguardian.com/music/2009/nov/26/cocteau-twins-elizabeth-fraser-interview) and she mentions the unreleased/unfinished duet with jeff buckley that bimble was raving about upthread. i had never heard the song! it's really, really lovely, instantly one of my favorites of either of their careers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnPvnIKCJYA

dig your way out of the shit with a gold magic shovel! (Karl Malone), Monday, 21 February 2022 16:44 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN1fTs15jD4

Piedie Gimbel, Wednesday, 6 April 2022 17:28 (two years ago) link

Sounds like Topographic Oceans era Yes.

Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 18:53 (two years ago) link

(Not meant as a compliment or insult. Just my gut reaction. But of all the things I thought it might sound like, that was surely towards the bottom of the list.)

Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 18:55 (two years ago) link

Not an inapt comparison.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 18:59 (two years ago) link

Sounds nothing like "Topographic" YES to me but it's pretty nice.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 19:16 (two years ago) link

Yeah, as much as it kind of caught me off guard, I dig it on secind listen.

Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 19:35 (two years ago) link

this is pretty nice

kind of amazing that it's finally getting a release, she performed it in 2012 at one of her rare live appearances along with other unreleased solo material

ufo, Wednesday, 6 April 2022 21:31 (two years ago) link

I did have the "this sounds like 70s British pastoral prog folk" sort of reaction myself! Then it kind of Cocteau'ed out a bit in the later part. I gather this stuffs been percolating for a decade or more which.. cmon wee lass, get a move on.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 7 April 2022 06:12 (two years ago) link

her voice sounds great but this is a bit too florid and tasteful

boxedjoy, Thursday, 7 April 2022 16:00 (two years ago) link

"70s British pastoral prog folk" is one of my favorite sounds on earth but I'm not really hearing that per se here other than that it's a bit pastoral and not very Cocteaus-y guitarwise. I think it's great though.

"she performed it in 2012 at one of her rare live appearances" was this the show Steve Hackett played guitar for?

akm, Thursday, 7 April 2022 17:58 (two years ago) link

Hackett plays guitar on the released song.

bulb after bulb, Thursday, 7 April 2022 18:18 (two years ago) link

Correct - re Hackett in 2012.

Setlist website says this was the last song before the encore and my memory is that people went nuts for it...

Michael Jones, Thursday, 7 April 2022 18:19 (two years ago) link

That’s Hackett on gtr?! (heh heh). Noice!!

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 7 April 2022 18:53 (two years ago) link

five months pass...

The full EP has been out awhle now and it is great! Especially "Apples". The youtubes have lyrics posted. Crazy.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 04:46 (one year ago) link


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