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what's hip in the psychedelic/ eastern influenced/ folk guitar stuff??

i love Sandy Bull. his interpretation of Carmina Burana on banjo rocks.

i've heard Fred Neil got into some of this kinda stuff, but the album i have of his (unless i forget) is mostly just song based

i have a Peter Walker album entitled "rainy day raga", but it's kinda ho hum. maybe it's the hiss on the record that keeps me from really enjoying it?

i just picked up a Robbie Basho record, but have yet to really listen to it. i NEVER in my right mind thought i'd buy something on Windam Hill, but...

JasonD (JasonD), Thursday, 16 January 2003 08:19 (11 years ago) Permalink

The Fred Neil album I have (Everbody's Talking) has a raga as the last track. It's the weakest thing on an otherwise fabulous record & doesn't fit in with the other more or less straight folk/pop songs.

This album was released by Rev-Ola in the UK a few years ago & is probably now unavailable, but it's 10 tracks are the first 10 tracks on the "Many Sides of Fred Neil" (availble at Barnes & Noble, I see)

bham, Thursday, 16 January 2003 09:23 (11 years ago) Permalink

robbie basho's collection CD ("guitar soli") is a damn good place to start; i don't know if that's the one you have, but by all means get it. i love the HELL out of that peter walker album. the seventh sons "4am at frank's" is pretty nice if more bouncy than those releases.

there are actually some proper ragas by indian musicians played on slide guitar out there, though artist names are eluding me right now.

your null fame (yournullfame), Thursday, 16 January 2003 10:49 (11 years ago) Permalink

5 months pass...
Jesus Christ, no mention of the Seventh Sons record on ESP on this thread?!

I mean, it only defines the genre.

And it's not acoustic - it's most emphatically electric - but anyone who cares about raga/rock mergers or modal improvisation in general must pick up the Paul Butterfield Blues Band East West Live cd on the Winner label. Like right fucking now!!!

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Sunday, 6 July 2003 01:40 (10 years ago) Permalink

Jesus Christ, no mention of the Seventh Sons record on ESP on this thread?!

does anyone ever fucking READ my posts?!

your null fame (yournullfame), Sunday, 6 July 2003 05:04 (10 years ago) Permalink

Ha - I'm sorry, Null. Props to you, no joke.


For whatever reason I missed your note about the Seventh Sons thing; m apologies.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Sunday, 6 July 2003 05:09 (10 years ago) Permalink

sir richard bishop's "salvador kali" disc on revenant worth checking fo r a couple of pieces he also does mancini & django & dick dale on there in his slightly askew way

bob snoom, Sunday, 6 July 2003 10:18 (10 years ago) Permalink

since i first posted to this thread, i've actually fallen in love with Basho. his singing is what really sets him apart for me from other folky pickers (fahey, kotke,etc). i've heard a lot of people complain about his voice, but i think it's amazing.

and YNF, when you were talking about Indian musicians playing slide guitar ragas, were you talking about Brig Bhushan Kabra? i've heard about him, but never heard any of the music.

JasonD (JasonD), Sunday, 6 July 2003 18:51 (10 years ago) Permalink

''And it's not acoustic - it's most emphatically electric - but anyone who cares about raga/rock mergers or modal improvisation in general must pick up the Paul Butterfield Blues Band East West Live cd on the Winner label. Like right fucking now!!!''

the shops are closed, so i can't do anything ;)

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 6 July 2003 19:35 (10 years ago) Permalink

10 months pass...
I was going through these correspondances and thought, might come to your help. Pl try to listen to any of my CDs of Indian Ragas on slide guitar.(1)Ragas on Hansa Veena( the Indian slide guitar)(2) Rags on slide guitar(3)Pranam. There are some more, but good to start with these. Good luck.
Barunkumar Pal

Pandit Barunkumar Pal, Saturday, 29 May 2004 02:28 (9 years ago) Permalink

John Fahey's "Fare Forward Voyagers" from his album of the same name is most excellent, as is the entire LP. Maybe not strictly a raga, but it's dedicated to his guru Swami Satchidananda and lasts a full 24 minutes, so I'm sure it counts. He also recorded something titled "A Raga Called Pat" but I've never heard that.

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Sunday, 30 May 2004 02:59 (9 years ago) Permalink

locust just re-released this gene estribou + john-paul pickens split _intensifications_ which has some passages that hover around ragas [the disc is all very good]. they're both bay area fixtures (estribou recorded grateful dead; pickens was in serpent power)

Nick Sylvester, Sunday, 30 May 2004 17:21 (9 years ago) Permalink

I'll start off by saying Fahey's FFV album does not count as raga, despite the a dedicado and length (girth?) of the music. Never understood the draw of this album, one of his lesser ones imo, but another topic altogether. Skip it, I'd say.

On the other hand, Pelt's "Pearls From the River" is all acoustic and very raga-influenced. And Jack Rose's (from Pelt) latest cd has many solo guitar pieces inna raga style, listen especially to "Yaman Blues."

Blind J.D., Monday, 31 May 2004 15:20 (9 years ago) Permalink

Saw Jack rose: he started playing an acoustic raga but then went off and played a acoustic feedback piece then some blues and some fahey like stuff. bah not enough faith in drone music.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 07:35 (9 years ago) Permalink

There are several tunes spread across various Six Organs of Admittance releases that would qualify as very raga-esque guitar improv.

John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:08 (9 years ago) Permalink

Seventh Sons' 4am at Frank's owns this thread. 'cept it's in a happy major key throughout.

andybeta, Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:16 (9 years ago) Permalink

also there's the Contemporary Guitar Sampler put out on Takoma Records in the late 60's, which has not only Fahey and Basho, but a piece by Max Ochs called 'Raga.' good luck finding it though, it's rare/out of print.

Pandit Barunkumar Pal - thanks for posting! I'm very interested in hearing your recordings of the Hansa Veena.

Blind J.D., Wednesday, 2 June 2004 05:25 (9 years ago) Permalink

i just got the fahey dvd on rounder:

http://www.rounder.com/index.php?id=album.php&catalog_id=5157

aquarius records of san francisco says:

FAHEY, JOHN In Concert and Interviews 1969 & 1996 (Vestapol / Rounder) dvd 22.00
About ten minutes into this I came to the conclusion that I had to buy one. This is awesome. Any Fahey fan will freak out watching this dvd. The 1996 material by itself is great -- a concert at Berkeley's Freight and Salvage that maybe some of you reading this were lucky enough to attend, plus backstage interview footage wherein ol' John Fahey reveals both some of his history, and his humor. But it was the 1969 portion of this I watched first, which consists of a much more youthful, clean-shaven John Fahey guesting on some sort of guitar-oriented TV talk show, hosted by a woman who is clearly both a big fan of Fahey's playing and also somewhat bemused/confused by his musical eccentricities. She even almost scolds him for doing something that she tells her own guitar students not to do, though they determine that he had a good reason for it... Fahey proves himself to be quite a charming character, smoking a cigarette as he answers the host's questions and demonstrates his techniques, playing quite a few lovely lovely songs. It's amazing viewing for anyone already under the spell of the man's music and persona. Fans, get this!

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 05:32 (9 years ago) Permalink

9 months pass...
george stavis "labyrinths." anyone else heard this? am i the only one who enjoys the whole 'acoustic raga' thing on a five string banjo?

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Monday, 7 March 2005 01:24 (9 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...
I just discovered The Moody Blues' Om, which has made my day.

The PappaWheelie Story: Half Brain, Half Soul, All Mouth (on sale now) (PappaWhe, Friday, 6 October 2006 21:31 (7 years ago) Permalink

george stavis "labyrinths." anyone else heard this? am i the only one who enjoys the whole 'acoustic raga' thing on a five string banjo?
-- el sabor de gene (yn...), March 6th, 2005 5:24 PM. (yournullfame)

does anyone ever fucking READ my posts?!: i love Sandy Bull. his interpretation of Carmina Burana on banjo rocks.

jaxon (jaxon), Friday, 6 October 2006 21:44 (7 years ago) Permalink

lol

Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 6 October 2006 22:17 (7 years ago) Permalink

no, jaxon, i do not read yr posts. plus also not good reader.

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Friday, 6 October 2006 23:32 (7 years ago) Permalink

4 years pass...

Can we revive this? I'm seeking more.

███★★★███ (PappaWheelie V), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 17:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

was just listening to jack rose's luck in the valley -- first track "blues for percy danforth" os more raga-y than bluesy.

tylerw, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 17:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

Steve Gunn! I thought I'd had enough of this kind of thing but he really brings it.

Trip Maker, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 17:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

can believe no one mentioned that seventh sons record on here

69, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 17:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

Seventh Sons' 4am at Frank's owns this thread. 'cept it's in a happy major key throughout.

― andybeta, Tuesday, 1 June 2004 15:16 (7 years ago) Bookmark

master musicians of jamiroquai (NickB), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 17:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

listening to steve gunn right now over here -- http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Steve_Gunn/
playing electric there, tho. still sounds amazing, thanks for the tip.

tylerw, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 17:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

i think that's the joke..

i quite like steve gunn's records!

one dis leads to another (ian), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 17:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm not that self (or ILX or whatever) aware.
wish it was a joke it's no joke.
sorry everyone.

Trip Maker, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 17:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

master musicians of jamiroquai (NickB), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 17:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

^ that's a savage clip btw

master musicians of jamiroquai (NickB), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 17:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

what steve gunn record should i get? i really like this.

tylerw, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 17:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

joke comment was not abt you, etripz, it was about how no one has mentioned the seventh sons LP yet!

tyler-- i like the Boerum Palace LP a lot.

one dis leads to another (ian), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 18:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

cool, thanks!
and thanks nickb for that SRB clip. killer!
THANKS EVERYBODY.
for real, the steve gunn free music archive set is fantastic. on my second listen now!

tylerw, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 18:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

His side on the three lobed box is great.
I second the Boerum Palace lp recc, too.
He's got a few albums on Spotify.

Trip Maker, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 18:23 (2 years ago) Permalink


this is the greatest

the tune is space, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 18:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

this bill plummer reissue is the bomb

it's a little less "acoustic raga" and a little more "far-out swinging sitar sounds" but WHATEVER

funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 18:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

Vishwa Mohan Bhatt plays mostly trad ragas on a slide guitar-like instrument, i think of his own design.

m0stlyClean, Wednesday, 21 September 2011 03:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

hmm, yeah he did that record w/ ry cooder right? that's a nice one. i should check more of his stuff out.

tylerw, Wednesday, 21 September 2011 03:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

Is anyone reissuing Basho's LPs?

Cal Poxy (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 08:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

i don't think so. there are a few on CD, though thoae may be out of print now.

one dis leads to another (ian), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 16:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

this bill plummer reissue is the bomb

it's a little less "acoustic raga" and a little more "far-out swinging sitar sounds" but WHATEVER

picked this up (along with other 'get on down' stuff), and its spot on.
loving the replica gatefold packaging with the inner sleeve for the cd.
as for the music, well its a mixed bag most of it excellent, however, this is the best track :

http://www.youtube.com/user/getondowntv#p/u/17/dM7xKey6V2k

just wish the whole album had spoken dialogue like this (it doesn't .. )

mark e, Friday, 7 October 2011 13:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

8 months pass...

You guys should listen to the new Central Living (Steve Gunn) album on Blackest Rainbow. Great colab with some other dude I've never heard of. Its pretty great. I should post this in the rolling drone thread as well

http://blackestrainbowrecords.bandcamp.com/album/dune-church

van smack, Thursday, 14 June 2012 00:04 (1 year ago) Permalink


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