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Not the song, the club (http://www.optimo.co.uk/). I spend an unhealthy amount of time daydreaming about this club and how much I want to go - see the playlists on the site, it looks awesome. I downloaded one of the Optimo mix cds (the one which opens with 'Some people live all their lives without knowing which path is right....') and it blew me away. Hopefully, I should be heading up to Glasgow in a couple of months to check it out so I just want anyone who's been to tell me what it's like, spill any anecdotes and prattle on about anything else Optimo'y.

It astounds me that a club playing no wave, girl group, classical, punk, soul, krautrock, etc etc etc etc etc can be a huge success but by all accounts it is. Could this happen in Manchester/Liverpool/Kent/Cardiff or is is a Scot thang? Mr Optimo should franchise out the Optimo brandname and become a 21st century Zilkha, or all clubnight-running guys should just rip him off wholesale (I know I intend to).

If Stirmonster is reading, how did you set the whole thing up? Was it a blazing success from the off or did you have to build it up?

Also, if anyone has the mix cd as teasingly described on http://www.optimo.co.uk/download.htm then please please let me get a copy of it somehow (soulseek? cd-r tradey stuff?)

Ian SPACK (Ian SPACK), Wednesday, 5 February 2003 17:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

do you mean the Frenchbloke & Sonof mix?
http://www.optimo.co.uk/images/we%20are%20back%20-%20tray%20inlay.jpg

it does sound great, i wonder if i can obtain a copy from the chaps - will investigate

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 5 February 2003 19:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

one of the bands i work played a night at optimo, and it was insanity. the place was rammed with kids dancing literally all night and drinking and doing god knows what else to excess. i was told that some employers make people sign waivers that they won't attend, and that as it's on a sunday the party is the city's leading cause of absenteeism. that sounds like an urban legend, but i'd be inclined to believe the latter as one of the afterparties was carrying on into the next afternoon. definitely make the trip up.

lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 5 February 2003 20:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

what a fantastic club! how is the new subby, stirry?

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 5 February 2003 20:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

Steve, yeah that's exactly the one. Do your damndest to grab a copy. You should get this other Optimo mix off me, I reckon you'll love it. I can send it over MSN while Ssk is down.

I can't believe that a club with *that* music policy is so popular, how on earth has it worked so well? Lauren, what's their secret? And why haven't clubs all over Britain followed suit?

The first I heard of it was in the business pages of The Sun (!) where they mentioned how the djs hung a mic over the crowd dancing, sampled them, made a song out of the noise and played it back out minutes later. Unreal.

Also, is it always on a Sunday? I thought it was a Friday night thing.

Ian SPACK (Ian SPACK), Wednesday, 5 February 2003 20:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

Those scots must be real crazy (and arty) party animals. Always thought scotland was just full of kids with Ocean Colour Scene/Cast/Oasis or Byrds/Big Star/Pavement/Sonic Youth/Neil Young/Pixies/Nirvana albums.

Had that impression the 2 years i spent in Glasgow. The rest of scotland was full of hardcore rave/gabber kids.

Billy, Wednesday, 5 February 2003 20:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

how on earth has it worked so well - i honestly have no idea. i had been playing straight(ish) 4/4 music for ten years and was chomping at the bit to do something a bit different. the oppurtunity to do a sunday night came up and it seemed the ideal night to plunge into the depths of my record collection. really, the intention was to do something for a lot of people i knew who were a bit older and wanted to hear music that doesn't normally get played in a club. for about the first 18 months, we were lucky to get 100 people in but as it was a sunday and we had no expectations, that was great.

then one week three hundred people turned up which we thought was a fluke, but the next week even more turned up and it continued to grow from there. our home, the sub club burned down and we were in temporary homes for three years but returned back 'home' a few months ago. since then it has gone even more ballistic. last sunday there was a blizzard going on outside and we expected it to be really quiet but we had the biggest crowd we have ever had and had to turn a couple of hundred away. it's insane, i tell ya!

the really strange thing for me is that we have a really young crowd who will freak to records they don't know from before they were born! i guess people are bored and want more from their night out. people in scotland also party like their lives depend on it!

we have been lumped in with electroc(l)a$h, post punk, bootlegs, too many djs etc but really, we are none of these things. i follow music, not what anyone else does and doing this in relative isolation up in scotland has been great for us. it means we don't belong to any scene and will always operate outside what is happening in the media. as fads come and go, we will still be here just playing music.

one of the reasons it might have worked is that after ten years of being techno djs, myself and my partner really know how to work a crowd so even though we play all types of music, we put it together in quite an energetic way and mix records that should never work together. i mean who'd have thought mo tucker kept such good time but it's possible to mix live the whole of 'waiting for my man' over some slamming techno track . likewise johnny cash's 'personal jesus' or a whole multitude of other songs. also, using a powerbook live lets me do things that leave people wondering 'how did he do that?'. but most importantly, it's fun - i might play reallly obscure records from the sun city girls, billy childish, the ze or 99 label or whatever but i always know when it is time to give the crowd a dose of fun.

i hope i don't come across all arrogant here. i'm not but i truly love what i do and it is the most enjoyable thing i have ever done in my whole life.

and finally, it CAN work elsewhere - we have taken optimo to new york, paris, helsinki, belfast, munich and stockholm and it worked every time.

if any ILM'ers ever come and don't enjoy themselves i will personally refund their costs for getting here.

stirmonster, Wednesday, 5 February 2003 21:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

My sister lives in Glasgow so I'm sure I'll make it sometime, I had planned to go anyway, though admittedly that was after I'd read the articles which said it was electroclash and post punk. I did look at the setlists linked to ages ago on that other thread and I would definitely go if I was around judging from those.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 5 February 2003 22:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

look for maybe possibly some stir dates in some clubs in the NYC roundabout time for the Liquid Liquid show on March 7th.

presumptuous? never

mosurock (mosurock), Wednesday, 5 February 2003 22:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

likewise johnny cash's 'personal jesus'

What is it about this song? Erol Alkan (of Trash) namechecks it in this month's Jockey Slut. I really must try to make it sometime. I missed thema at Auto too, despite being there. I was probably stuck in the murderous beer queue. Unfortunately whenever I'm up in Glasgow I'm usually travelling back down south on a Sunday. I will get there though.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 5 February 2003 22:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

"the really strange thing for me is that we have a really young crowd who will freak to records they don't know from before they were born!"

that's what really struck me about the night. the crowd went mad whether they knew a track or not. there is no way to manufacture that kind of enthusiasm, and it's really exciting to see.

lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 6 February 2003 15:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

i'd love to head over as well,i've been listening to that cd a lot recently...
any plans to put on a show in dublin?

robin (robin), Thursday, 6 February 2003 16:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ronan if you go, can I come with you?

Cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 6 February 2003 18:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

nine months pass...
what's new in the zoo?

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 01:47 (twenty years ago) link

same old same old - 'it's not as good as it used to be'™

stirmonster, Wednesday, 26 November 2003 01:53 (twenty years ago) link

some of the best nights of my life. Thats it. So when Cozen?

jed (jed_e_3), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 01:58 (twenty years ago) link

i met you once didn't i jed? at the opening of some bar where we were prostituting ourselves and playing to a disinterested audience. i am really bad at remembering faces so if yr ever at the 'mo, do come and say hello.

gygax, how's the old fmbb doing?

stirmonster, Wednesday, 26 November 2003 02:16 (twenty years ago) link

stirmo:
it died about 06/2002, or when jon left... take your pick.

i was in thinking today of crazy things: optimo global tastemaker early 2000s nostalgia. but in a very chris marker exotica way. crazy things.

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 02:27 (twenty years ago) link

yes i met you at a silly bar opening when i'd stood someone up, shameful! ive been down twice in the last month or so - its been nice to make friends with the other S****ers but im ususally too busy dancing. and yer busy!

jed (jed_e_3), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 02:34 (twenty years ago) link

are you and your lovely lady paying us a visit anytime soon, mr.stir?

lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 05:29 (twenty years ago) link

i am coming over to play APT on january 6th but i don't think the lovely lady can afford to join me. let's meet up!

stirmonster, Wednesday, 26 November 2003 11:11 (twenty years ago) link

yay!

lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 12:24 (twenty years ago) link

I nearly went again on Sunday but err.. didn't. Some leather-clad homo-electro act from San Francisco seemed quite a draw.

N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 12:47 (twenty years ago) link

i don't want to look up, bt ws this the thread i ws a dick abt optimo on w.out really knowing anything abt it on? oh dear. yeh, optimo! glasgow's lucky. still haven't been but i definitely shd. best club night in town?

raphael diligent (Cozen), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 12:58 (twenty years ago) link

...nah theres that really good microhouse night at jumpin jacks.

yes it is.

jed (jed_e_3), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 13:18 (twenty years ago) link

that would be zeigenbock kopf, n., and i don't think they actually made it up. one of them injured himself terribly in london the day before.

lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 22:28 (twenty years ago) link

from rolling about on stage on top of bottles of jd they had smashed, no less!

jed (jed_e_3), Wednesday, 26 November 2003 22:45 (twenty years ago) link

is optimo weekly then? i am in glasgow over the weekend and this sounds grinchy. any other heads up on what to do in glasgow would be grate too.

nebbesh (nebbesh), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 11:30 (twenty years ago) link

weekly, sundays, subclub, details: www.optimo.co.uk

jed (jed_e_3), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 12:53 (twenty years ago) link

what can anyone tell me abt lucy m4ckenzie's 'flourish', if anything?

(i thk i know wht she looks like, really pretty, bowl cut, i thk i saw her at the latest 'mars hotel' gig.)

raphael diligent (Cozen), Thursday, 4 December 2003 22:38 (twenty years ago) link

eleven months pass...
did Ronan ever make it to Optimo?

jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 04:13 (nineteen years ago) link

No. I keep telling him to come. Also, what happened to the brwh scheduled for the 5th? Did it get rescheduled?

Next Optimo for me: The Go! Team one, I think. Would like to do Clinic too but don't think I will.

New Year too.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 09:02 (nineteen years ago) link

I am stuck as to whether I can do new year this year. I love new year optimo, but I have a potential (as in nearly confirmed) start date on a new job, in London, on 4th Jan.

So, when they confirm I have to find somewhere to live and move. And do NYE Optimo. I am sure it is possible somehow...

3underscore (___), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 09:21 (nineteen years ago) link

It surely is. When I moved up here I sorted out a place to live in advance and moved my stuff a week before, because I had Glastonbury in the way.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 09:24 (nineteen years ago) link

But the week before is Christmas Alba! These christian festivals are going to ruin my hogmanay!

3underscore (___), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 09:39 (nineteen years ago) link

ronan should come to aberdeen optimo.

take the megabus, ronan.

cºzen (Cozen), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 10:58 (nineteen years ago) link

i would like to go to optimo

charltonlido (gareth), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 11:04 (nineteen years ago) link

wouldn't it be fun, if we could all be at optimo together?

lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 12:30 (nineteen years ago) link

shall we go in december. perhaps the 17th?

*@*.* (gareth), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 12:30 (nineteen years ago) link

i mean, that weekend. a christmassy thing

*@*.* (gareth), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 12:31 (nineteen years ago) link

can i come?

Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 12:33 (nineteen years ago) link

no.

lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 12:35 (nineteen years ago) link

lauren van pelt

Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 12:37 (nineteen years ago) link

I think there's a London crew heading up to Optimo for Hogmanay and renting rooms / crashing somewhere the day after, not too sure yet - and depends what the Bugged Out lineup is like, but personally I'd prefer Glasgow...

MattR (MattR), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 13:13 (nineteen years ago) link

YAY! come to Optimo!

jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 15:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Sort it out the week before Christmas, ___. You don't want to be desparately looking for a place in a few days once you arrive in London, surely? You often can't move in straight away anyway. London accommodation is crappy and it takes a while to find something good unless you hear about something ON THE GRAPEVINE.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 15:23 (nineteen years ago) link

:( knoxville is a long way away.

i attended the 1999/2000 hogmanay optimo at the art school..... i don't remember a single thing except a friend of mine stealing an entire case of mini tonic bottles.

You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 15:23 (nineteen years ago) link

That is unacceptable behaviour. It's people like your friend that make it cost £25.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 15:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Stevem, never mind those bullies!

jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 15:25 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm not going if he goes.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 15:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Haha, it’s not going to be long before drinks will be 11 pounds in a lot of places that‘s for sure.

Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 12 May 2022 04:35 (one year ago) link

I was listening to an interview with Surgeon the other day, and Optimo got a nice shout out

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Saturday, 14 May 2022 00:28 (one year ago) link

six months pass...

The new Pleasure Pool album on Optimo seems pretty good so far. Really interesting grooves and use of vocals.

https://pleasure-pool.bandcamp.com/album/love-without-illusion-lp

Treblekicker, Friday, 9 December 2022 10:10 (one year ago) link

looking forward to hearing this! Watching Trees was an amazing festival and I gotta say that Pleasure Pool were the most amazing thing I saw there. Whole set was incredible, can't wait to see them live again one day

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Friday, 9 December 2022 12:41 (one year ago) link

ooh thanks, this is nice

sleeve, Friday, 9 December 2022 14:57 (one year ago) link

sounding incredible so far, like can, jon hassell, the happy mondays and the shamen all trying to make a cosmic disco record together

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Friday, 9 December 2022 16:28 (one year ago) link

fucking hell, so good

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Friday, 9 December 2022 16:28 (one year ago) link

getting some Lissvek/Studio vibes as well

sleeve, Friday, 9 December 2022 16:29 (one year ago) link

yeah indeed, that was very much a flavour when I saw them live

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Friday, 9 December 2022 16:30 (one year ago) link

Really good album, my body chose a particularily bad time to demand a disco nap at Watching Trees and I missed the magic.

Chewshabadoo, Friday, 9 December 2022 16:56 (one year ago) link

four months pass...

whoa Cease & Resist vinyl sold out already?!? dang, good on y'all.

Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Sunday, 9 April 2023 22:01 (one year ago) link

de ambassade album is fantastic

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Sunday, 9 April 2023 22:39 (one year ago) link

Cease & Resist copies on Friday were just some very limited pre-release copies. There will be more at the start of May and then it will be in all good record shops from mid May.

:-)

stirmonster, Sunday, 9 April 2023 23:29 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

No SF date... :(((

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 31 May 2023 18:42 (ten months ago) link

they were in SF literally last month

serving bundt (sic), Wednesday, 31 May 2023 19:01 (ten months ago) link

well... i was in fukken' LA gah.

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 1 June 2023 04:37 (ten months ago) link

if i can stay awake i may attempt the LA gig on friday

donna rouge, Thursday, 1 June 2023 05:25 (ten months ago) link

three weeks pass...

This one's a really great recent release: https://optimomusic.bandcamp.com/album/inside-the-sphere

Shades of the more contemplative work of Mika Vainio and Plastikman's Consumed, but not limited to those references.

jvc, Monday, 26 June 2023 17:50 (nine months ago) link

yes great album

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Monday, 26 June 2023 18:01 (nine months ago) link

two months pass...

Gonna catch the show in Miami thurs B-)

xheugy eddy (D-40), Tuesday, 19 September 2023 04:26 (seven months ago) link

This is 100000000000% more interesting than Tycho's annual burning man dawn mix as posted around the internet.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 23:11 (six months ago) link

Caught the closing “Watching Trees” takeover at Field Manouvers a few weeks back and it was full of brilliant moments - perfect end to the festival.

Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 21 September 2023 20:50 (six months ago) link

one month passes...

posted mostly for humour content, someone's been monkeying around with your tune, stirm:

https://bleachingagent.bandcamp.com/track/limbtimo

blazin' squab (NickB), Monday, 23 October 2023 17:09 (five months ago) link

Some funny edits/mash-ups from that guy. New to me. Some pretty hip sources. Mass? A dance edit of Henry Badowski's Baby Sign Here With Me? Not sure how I feel about it all.

dan selzer, Monday, 23 October 2023 17:33 (five months ago) link

he's done some great stuff, that one just made me laugh because of the place that booker t tune has in british (or should that be english?) culture

blazin' squab (NickB), Monday, 23 October 2023 17:38 (five months ago) link

(would say more, but don't want to spoil the surprise)

blazin' squab (NickB), Monday, 23 October 2023 17:40 (five months ago) link

(probably have already though)

blazin' squab (NickB), Monday, 23 October 2023 17:41 (five months ago) link

ha ha! i'm surprised it took so long for anyone to do that. first few times i ever played the liquid liquid track several people asked "what was the track that sounded a bit like the cricket theme?". for non Brits, soul limbo is synonmyous with cricket here as it is / was the tv theme tune for a long time.

mr bleaching agent is a good pal of mine. he told me he had done a ton of edits but i hadn't got as far as hearing this one yet.

stirmonster, Monday, 23 October 2023 18:43 (five months ago) link

listened to it again and it actually bangs, would totally lose my mind if I heard that out at just the right moment.

just clocked the lifetones sample on the 4th track on that release, bloody lovely that!

blazin' squab (NickB), Monday, 23 October 2023 19:17 (five months ago) link

three months pass...

https://www.watchingtrees.com

^^ brighton crew are mobilising. anyone else?

blazin' squab (NickB), Thursday, 25 January 2024 13:00 (two months ago) link

Yes, but you knew that already.

Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 25 January 2024 17:44 (two months ago) link

:)

blazin' squab (NickB), Thursday, 25 January 2024 18:50 (two months ago) link

almost sold out.

stirmonster, Friday, 2 February 2024 21:31 (two months ago) link

Yeah you must be delighted! and very relieved. congrats!

blazin' squab (NickB), Friday, 2 February 2024 21:35 (two months ago) link

yes to both!! thanks.

stirmonster, Friday, 2 February 2024 21:52 (two months ago) link

it was the chips that did it

blazin' squab (NickB), Friday, 2 February 2024 22:02 (two months ago) link

Got my Optimo package from monorail today. And only a dozen emails from the royal mail tracking its progress along the way!

dan selzer, Friday, 2 February 2024 23:35 (two months ago) link

v. happy you picked that up. royal mail have gone email mad in recent times - i am bombarded by their updates.

stirmonster, Saturday, 3 February 2024 05:12 (two months ago) link

Also looking forward to the chips.

Chewshabadoo, Saturday, 3 February 2024 17:23 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

Thought this might be the right place to ask, but is the Naum Gabo LP getting widely distributed in UK?

Bandcamp are charging international shipping, and I can see Phonica has vinyl copies (Juno out of stock already), but I have a local store I like to order from if its possible.

Sounding great from what I have heard.

my opinionation (Hamildan), Tuesday, 12 March 2024 09:58 (one month ago) link

it deffo has UK distribution. i don't know who the distributor is though i'm afraid.

stirmonster, Tuesday, 12 March 2024 16:49 (one month ago) link

two weeks pass...

Enjoyed listening back to this newly uploaded set from Field Maneuvers last year: https://soundcloud.com/resident-advisor/ra-live-optimo-field-maneuvers-uk

Unless my memory is playing tricks on me there was even more after this recording ends though?

Chewshabadoo, Friday, 29 March 2024 12:15 (three weeks ago) link

i think that was right near the end no? i have to confess i don't recall how the set ended.

stirmonster, Saturday, 30 March 2024 00:20 (two weeks ago) link

Well it was the end of a rather heavy weekend so I could very well have a loose grip on the facts! I trust you :D

Chewshabadoo, Saturday, 30 March 2024 10:59 (two weeks ago) link

One thing I will say is that one of my friends still hasn’t forgiven you both for teasing “Boys” and then not playing it! You know what to do at Watching Trees…

Chewshabadoo, Saturday, 30 March 2024 11:01 (two weeks ago) link

ha! i don't recall, that either and was 100% sober.

stirmonster, Saturday, 30 March 2024 16:46 (two weeks ago) link

Very excited to see y'all are coming to Austin next week

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Saturday, 30 March 2024 23:00 (two weeks ago) link

it has been a long time. excited to be back and also to hopefully catch the eclipse.

stirmonster, Sunday, 31 March 2024 01:10 (two weeks ago) link

Everyone has eclipse mania!

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Sunday, 31 March 2024 04:41 (two weeks ago) link


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