Cristian Vogel : C or D

One of the things I loved about him is his minimalism; but then I love Mills, Hawtin, etc. His best stuff is minimal, but not banging or bleeping like those guys. He throws in enough human elements (vocal samples, etc), and ambient moves to differentiate himself. Beginning to Understand was the first of his I'd heard and I was just really into that sound at the time. I still think Specific Momentific is his best. I actually have not heard any Super_Collider. I bought the Jamie Lidell cd after really enjoying his 12" on Mosquito, but I wasn't too into it.

Are you kidding? That's some fantastic fucked up greasy machine techno. One of the best dance LP's of last year!

those first couple of releases on primate were incredible

Rescate 137 was the soundtrack of my life for about 2 weeks of very late nights

and the super_collider show I saw a few months ago, was the best live act of the year for me

vogel is a prime example of a "micro" artist working in a techno idiom.

Christian Vogel's hard, minimal stuff is supremely funky for the genre, and he has a terrific sense for rhythmic bounce. He can do the 'rough-industrial-textures-which -should-be-harsh-but-my-aren't they-warm-and-fuzzy' thing, too.

His solo stuff is underrated, Super_Collider is hugely overrrated. It's just journalists that overrate the latter. Give them a vocal and a tune and they think "At last! Techno that I can understand!"

Actually I don't think that Super_Collida are particularly more tuneful than, say, Rescate 137 (or whatever it is) - and anyone who's listening to Super_Collida is likely to be comfortable listening to music without a tune or a vocal anyway. I think that people find Super_Collida interesting because of the *tension* between song and fucked-up groove.

that said, i think buscas invisibles is the best one. and i think i was too harsh about landstrumm's album.

-- vahid

I think so too.

wish super_collider could be this strange, though I know they're going for something different with that project.

So, Scientific Momentific, eh. One of those albums Where I had a handful of mp3's on my computer for years and years, and then get the CD, and it makes sense perfectly, all the songs I've heard before sound better, and it's a fantastic piece of kind of fascinating, really interesting music. And hooray, I get to see him play in a week!

man, I love dungeon master. it just sounds huge. "tasty mission" is such an awesome track.

...but I haven't really dug much deeper. anyone care to suggest what I should hit up next?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1P4DlpZIbkA

love this guy, new one sounds amazing

new one is pretty good indeed

Christian Vogel wrote an Amazon review of Automatic Writing..

the bob ashley piece?

dammit i want to play with a kyma system, some of the strange morphing things he does sound so ridiculous and awesome.

yeah the Ashley thing, was surprised to see that. I went to buy The Inertials the other day but I couldn't find a copy. I thought Shitkatapult were dist by Kompakt so it would be easy to find. I bought the Tom Thiel (Sun Electric) on the same label. That is good too.

dud

https://cristianvogel.bandcamp.com/album/all-music-has-come-to-an-end-2015-remaster

nice to hear this again

tearing the groove one of my fav tracks

sounds much better than it did in the past