History has erased them

Check the reference books and the compilations and see how many of them omit The Vibrators but include such relative latecomers / nonetities as 999, Angelic Upstarts, Chelsea, Cockney Rejects, The Cortinas, The Depressions, The Drones, Eater, The Exploited, The Lurkers, The Members, Menace, Suburban Studs, UK Subs, etc. etc. etc.

The Hothouse Flowers
Northern Uproar
Oceanic
Gin Blossoms
Lolly

Transvision Vamp

Like the Eurythmics were literally in the History of British Pop segment of the London 2012 Olympics. That's about as far from the premise of this thread as you can get.

I guess Dog Latin meant that his solo music rarely gets played anymore, and most people probably don't even know it's the same guy who produced those Madonna hits?

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Eurythmics first lp In The Garden is pretty essential if you're not already aware.
Nice mix of Brit folky stuff , psych and New Wave. Band on it is half Blondie and half Can and it's produced by Conny Plank.

:-O that's pretty amazing, I had no idea. It's like the Police, the Pretenders, UB40 etc - huge, huge late 70s/ eighties bands who went down in history as AOR staples but turned out to be a lot spikier and more interesting than that in the early days.

xp I mean, he was never really that big as a solo artist, there was a minor amount of buzz around "Jacques Your Body" when it was used on that car advert, but I'd say that's if anything more well-remembered than similarly minor hits of the same era.

I guess Dog Latin meant that his solo music rarely gets played anymore, and most people probably don't even know it's the same guy who produced those Madonna hits?

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― Tuomas, Thursday, September 1, 2016 11:07 AM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Colour me stoopid, I was literally looking at a list of old CDs I used to have and forgot who LRD even was.

My answer for this would be some of the rubbish British faux disco hits of the late 70s and early 80s - I haven't heard them played or referred to anywhere at all since they were on Top of the Pops

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6loKnLryIsw

if a guy out of The Eccentronic Research Council hadn't mentioned the band Mum And Dad in an interview recently, I think they'd be forgotten by literally everyone on Earth, including everyone in the band itself

If no one's heard of them to begin with, I don't think they can be "erased" from history...

When you get namechecked by The Eccentronic Research Council you know you've made it.

if a guy out of The Eccentronic Research Council hadn't mentioned the band Mum And Dad in an interview recently, I think they'd be forgotten by literally everyone on Earth, including everyone in the band itself

― imago, Thursday, September 1, 2016 11:19 AM (thirty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

some of us have been keeping the Mum And Dad flame burning. shout out to the other 19 ppl who have apparently listened to them on spotify in the last month

oh i quite like them, having investigated as the result of that shout-out

not your shout-out, eccentronic guy's shout-out

yours is also appreciated

unjustly forgotten:

St. Christopher
Shelleyan Orphan
The Motorcycle Boy
The Sugargliders

I was blown away to discover that The Wombats have quietly been doing really well in America recently and still managing to get albums into the UK top 5

http://static.wixstatic.com/media/4a6592_9e168409fb0a49549f2e91868f0c177c.jpg

3rd Bass, Electribe 101, The Fatima Mansions, The Goats, Madder Rose and Gallon Drunk, none of whom afaik are listened to by anyone who wasn't there at the time or even referred to in 'lol early 90s' type articles.

― Matt DC, Thursday, September 1, 2016 10:23 AM (three hours ago)

Latter two still mentioned/liked a lot. Possibly both reformed as well?? The rest = yeah, forgotten.

Will also say it probably doesn't count as "being erased from history" if you were never part of history in the first place. Otherwise I could just list all my bands.

The Fatima Mansions seem like a good one. Microdisney as well, even though Microdisney feel more in tune with styles that people care about in 2016.I don't know if they are both better remembered in Ireland maybe?

Huge hits that you never hear anymore:
Robert Plant - "Tall Cool One"
EMF - "Unbelievable"

I feel sure I've heard Unbelievable recently.

I'm told that Martha and the Muffins - "Echo Beach" gets a lot of play in the UK but I've literally never heard it on Canadian radio, despite it going gold and winning a Juno.

(in recent times)

I mentioned "Echo Beach" on the "Obscure songs heard at CVS" thread. I've heard it twice recently.

In the UK you hear Echo Beach all over the place but never any other Martha & The Muffins songs, ever.

I should get points for this: A tune I really love and have listened to often/recently combines two artists on this thread. Madder Rose "Overflow (FC Kahuna Headstart Me Up Mix)"

Can movies be discussed in this thread? I was just reflecting on the fact that "American Pie" was a gigantic smash hit, people quoted from it all the time, it was seen as the "Animal House" of its moment, and now? Kind of gone, right?

other than the 300 straight to DVD sequels under the name American Pie? hell local art movie house just showed it as a 'cult classic'. it's ubiquitous, people still say "oh, Stiffler's mom", MILF, an existing term, became part of mainstream lexicon and is still there. history enhanced, not erased it!

OK re MILF very good point. "Stiffler's mom" is not something I've heard referred to in a decade but OK point taken.

local art movie house just showed it as a 'cult classic'

you need a local rich person to make them a big donation so they don't have to do this shit tho

I live in Canada and I've definitely heard "Echo Beach" on the radio. Don't think I've heard anything else by them.

American Pie or its sequels seem to be on tv quite a bit on various channels. So yeah seems to be more staple than forgotten.

I think that in that in the UK Martha + the Muffins are regarded as a memorable one-hit wonder with a funny name, which afaict is how they have always been regarded here since 1979, I don't think there has been any change in their profile as such

What about Can't Hardly Wait? I feel like that was big back in the day. Or maybe I just knew a lot of people with the soundtrack.

I live in Canada and I've definitely heard "Echo Beach" on the radio. Don't think I've heard anything else by them.

What about Ashley MacIsaac and the Rankin Family? Both were multiplatinum in the 90s.

Apparently they were M+M before Marshall Mathers.

Which should make them memorable really.

I thought I'd come across some member being known as part of another band but can't see anything other than Daniel Lanois's sister playing bass for a few years.

Martha Ladly (one of two Marthas in Martha and the Muffins) joined the Associates:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martha_Ladly

Coal Chamber looked as though they were going to be as big as Korn for a short while, then Limp Bizkit came along

the 3rd martha and the muffins album ('this is the ice age') is worth a listen - has an odd disconnected vibe to it, and is a bit eno-ish in places. one of the earlier daniel lanois productions fwiw (his sister was in the band at that point)

If you look through the NME albums-of-the-year list, which I think is a reasonable enough indication of stuff they thought was going to stand the test of time, the early 90s gives you albums by the 3rd Bass, Electribe 101, The Fatima Mansions, The Goats, Madder Rose and Gallon Drunk, none of whom afaik are listened to by anyone who wasn't there at the time or even referred to in 'lol early 90s' type articles.

― Matt DC, Thursday, September 1, 2016 5:23 AM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This was HUGE among, well, me and one other guy in 8th grade:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNfU_RMbUCA

The Viva Dead Ponies album became one of those "holy grail" used CDs for me. I used to check for it in every store I went into. By the time I finally tracked down a copy though, I didn't like it at all. I wonder if I'd enjoy it now?

Are High llamas any better remembered?
Sean O'Hagan the main guy was at least at one point the other major guy in Microdisney.

I see they have a new lp out this year that I don't remember hearing about. So must still have some recognition.

I first came across O'Hagan in Stereolab though. He toured Ireland with them in '92

the 3rd martha and the muffins album ('this is the ice age') is worth a listen

This is an understatement.

In my experience Sean O'Hagan is remembered, but his actual bands much less so.

Gallon Drunk are still going strong. Both live where they are very intense and on album. Their 2014 release "The Soul of the Hour" was great. Dark, hypnotic, aninmalistic grooves. Like "Exile on Main Street" but better.

Gallon Drunk at Phoenix 97 is still the best gig I've ever been to, don't seem to actually own any of their music though, used to have one CD but lost it somewhere.

Smithereens I think?

Fatima Mansions catalog is all really great, go back and revisit!

Suddenly, Tammy!

Does anyone remember Calla? They were a revelation at the time, haven't heard anything from them for a while.

the 3rd martha and the muffins album ('this is the ice age') is worth a listen

This is an understatement.

Good lord, yes. One of my all-time fave art rock records. I'm sure they're doing quite well with Echo Beach residuals but this is the work that should've defined Martha/Muffins/M+M.

Does anyone remember Calla? They were a revelation at the time, haven't heard anything from them for a while.

i absoutely love the 'televise' album ..
they really were on the verge of crossing over for a short time, but things fell apart both re band and record label.
seem to recall they tried to get things going again a few years ago (myspace era !), but their time was over.
such a shame.

Was watching Buffy and there was a Lotion poster on the dorm wall.