plus do you think they will be any good?
― nebbesh (nebbesh), Monday, 23 June 2003 10:19 (twenty years ago) link
She seems to have ditched "The New Crew" that she was playing with in NY last year (http://punkcast.com/) and has a new band - most of who still didn't appear to have worked out quite what the fuck to make of her!
She's still as extrovert and excitable and petulant and full of fun as a four year old: chattering interminably between songs, particularly about how proud she was of The Slits; taking off the shawl she had tied 'round her waist, and getting the backing singers to help her tie on a new one; dragging people up out of the audience to dance on stage; swinging her dreadlocks 'round her head like Tom Jones swinging a microphone....
They played a few old Slits songs (Love Und Romance, New Town, Shoplifting, Man Next Door and Grapevine for the encore) but most of it was new stuff (mainly reggae style but surprisingly 1 or 2 rather punky ones).
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 23 June 2003 10:44 (twenty years ago) link
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 23 June 2003 10:46 (twenty years ago) link
I bought a v. cheap CD of 'Cut' a cpl of months ago, but cldn't really get into it - I like that early biscuit-tin bootleg that Marcus bangs on abt, and the 'Peel Sessions' 12" is prob. their best semi-available recorded representation, for my needs right now
― Andrew L (Andrew L), Monday, 23 June 2003 10:50 (twenty years ago) link
They were good but nowhere even near that good!
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 23 June 2003 10:52 (twenty years ago) link
― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Monday, 23 June 2003 10:52 (twenty years ago) link
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 23 June 2003 10:54 (twenty years ago) link
― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Monday, 23 June 2003 10:57 (twenty years ago) link
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 23 June 2003 11:44 (twenty years ago) link
― mei (mei), Monday, 23 June 2003 11:51 (twenty years ago) link
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Monday, 23 June 2003 11:53 (twenty years ago) link
― mei (mei), Monday, 23 June 2003 11:54 (twenty years ago) link
Last I heard (last Friday), it had gone the way of the Erase Errata, Dirtbombs and Oneida Brighton dates... cancelled. I'm getting fucking fed up of people calling this "The Slits", also.
― Jerry (Jerry), Monday, 23 June 2003 12:23 (twenty years ago) link
― ssean, Monday, 23 June 2003 12:44 (twenty years ago) link
Fortunately it doesn't look as if Tessa minds Ari using the name and I can't imagine Viv would and at least the band are doing some new material not just regurgitating the "greatest hits"....
..... you're right 'though: The Slits, sadly, they ain't.
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 23 June 2003 12:50 (twenty years ago) link
I'd like to believe that Sean, I really would; but if that were the case why would she have ditched "The New Crew", got a new band who could play more than just a mangled version of Shoplifting and started using the name "Slits" again?
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 23 June 2003 12:53 (twenty years ago) link
it's just what i heard, i knew nothin' about it, hence the question. i mean, i'm sure you're also pretty fed up of people referring to you as 'That Cunt', but I'll always ask why.
― nebbesh (nebbesh), Monday, 23 June 2003 13:19 (twenty years ago) link
― j fail (cenotaph), Monday, 23 June 2003 13:38 (twenty years ago) link
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 23 June 2003 13:41 (twenty years ago) link
But when I saw the thread title it made me think of a newspaper headline, like "MP Calls For Slits Reform."
― s1utsky (slutsky), Monday, 23 June 2003 14:32 (twenty years ago) link
http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B0007Z0XO6.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 12:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 12:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 12:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 12:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 12:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 14:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 15:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 15:20 (eighteen years ago) link
I believe she and viv are not in touch...
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 17:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 19:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ian Riese-Moraine: a casualty of social estrangement. (Eastern Mantra), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 20:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 20:24 (eighteen years ago) link
Ari Up's stepfather, Johnny Rotten of The Sex Pistols, once referred to the singer as "a total individual as I've ever seen." As well he might - Up formed '70s punk band The Slits as a 14-year-old in London, released two albums and a Peel Session recording, toured with The Clash and was lauded as a ferociously original trailblazer for women in music.
But that doesn't mean record executives are clamoring outside of her Kingston, Jamaica and Brooklyn, New York homes, begging Up to make more music. Her reputation as a no-holds-barred punk rocker, coupled with the dreadlocks she hasn't cut since the '70s and her time spent in the '80s living naked in the jungles of Borneo and Belize have caused music execs to turn their backs on her. Though a superstar in Jamaica who goes by the name Madussa, Up's new record, Dread More Dan Dead, is her first ever full-length solo album.
"This is only my first album because I've been recording all my life, it's just that no one's releasing anything. Everyone is scared of me, you know, people are frightened. I don't know why, I've no clue," Up says, her voice a hybrid of German, British and Jamaican accents.
"They're never really saying, 'The music's not good' or, 'You can't do anything,' it's never really like that. It's always an awkward moment where people just don't know what to do with me. They're like, 'Are you an alien from a different planet?' 'Which planet do you come from?' or 'What do we label you as? What label are you?' What are you, punk, reggae, what are you? What are we gonna say? You're not R&B, you're not hip-hop, you're not rock.'"
Indeed, Up - real name Ariana Forster - has always made genre-crossing music. The Slits fused punk with dub reggae and she describes Dread as an "album of sort of mixed stuff," from instrumental songs, vocal-only numbers, hardcore reggae and songs she says The Slits could have written. Much like her time with the band, where the biographical lyrics ranged from Johnny Rotten arguing with Sid Vicious over drug intake, shoplifting to survive and criticizing the expectations placed on women, Up shopped for Dread's content from the people and events surrounding her.
"Babymother" was inspired by stories she'd heard of New York mothers going out and leaving their children uncared for at home. "Can't Share" was written after Up learned about the large percentage of women having affairs with already-involved men. She resurrected "True Warrior" from her Slits days.
"We've had even a song that would have been like that on the next album we were writing for. We had a dubby song, it was even more dubby, and it was about warriors as well," Up explains. "It even had the 'True Warrior' words in there, I think. It's just that this version has totally different words and different melodies and beats but it's the same type of atmosphere, it's the same thing that was left off with The Slits."
Now, instead of concentrating on old Slits material, Up is working on a new version of the group, with bandmate Tessa Pollitt returning on bass. She's speaking from London, in the middle of the "very hopeful, very redeeming" reunion. Up and Pollitt are looking for new Slits members, "because it's not going to be like a get-together of a vintage, old-time thing. It's the new Slits, totally."
The reunion is timely. Cut, The Slits' 1979 debut, was voted #58 on The Observer's list of the Top 100 British Albums Ever last year. The album has recently been issued in North America, having previously been available only as an import. Up can easily explain this resurgence of interest in her old band.
"Because we were born ahead of time, so people have to return back to The Slits," she explains. "We're just getting in time now, I think. Maybe we're still ahead of time. A little. But not as much as we were then, so people are catching up now because for it to come out now, it doesn't sound like vintage, I wouldn't say."
New Slits material is expected to be released later this year. Having had a few words to say about modern music, Up is hopeful the new music can shake things up.
"People in current times, I think, are ruled by too many rules. That's what was so refreshing with The Slits, is that we were just completely spontaneous. Organized chaos, so to speak. Just very honest and no preconceived notion of how it should be done, or what politics should be involved and what do we stand for and what are we labeled as and what clothes do we wear, it was more instinctive. What's great about The Slits is that it's such a totally instinctive group."
Up sadly acknowledges that the poor treatment of women in the music industry hasn't changed very much in her eyes, but she knows what kind of change she'd like to see.
"Well, I'm doing it, innit? I'm continuing The Slits to maybe start changing that."
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 19 August 2005 09:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― sleeve version 2.0 (sleeve testing), Friday, 22 September 2006 05:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Friday, 22 September 2006 06:40 (seventeen years ago) link
― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Friday, 22 September 2006 07:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― curmudgeon (DC Steve), Friday, 22 September 2006 10:47 (seventeen years ago) link
― señor citizen (eman), Saturday, 23 September 2006 22:19 (seventeen years ago) link
― mike powell (mike powell), Thursday, 9 November 2006 22:15 (seventeen years ago) link
i did an 8-minute interview with ari up afterwards, which has to rank among the strangest experiences of my professional life.
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 16 November 2006 23:56 (seventeen years ago) link
(Apologies in advance if you're a well known writer around here, and I should know etc..)
― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 17 November 2006 09:32 (seventeen years ago) link
"Slits Tradition" is the best new track and sounds pretty contemporary.
― everything (everything), Friday, 17 November 2006 17:01 (seventeen years ago) link
according to john lydon's website, ari up has just passed away.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 21 October 2010 01:38 (thirteen years ago) link
what????????????????????????????????
― scaruffi kaleidoscope (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 21 October 2010 01:55 (thirteen years ago) link
I just saw. R.I.P.
Apparently she had a prolonged illness of some sort.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 21 October 2010 01:55 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.johnlydon.com/jltalk.html
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 October 2010 01:56 (thirteen years ago) link
October 20th 2010 Arianna RIP John and Nora have asked us to let everyone know that Nora's daughter Arianna (aka Ari-Up) died today (Wednesday, October 20th) after a serious illness. She will be sadly missed.Everyone at JohnLydon.com and PiLofficial.Com would like to pass on their heartfelt condolences to John , Nora and family.Rest in Peace.
Everyone at JohnLydon.com and PiLofficial.Com would like to pass on their heartfelt condolences to John , Nora and family.
Rest in Peace.
i was just coming up to post that link...
;_;
― scaruffi kaleidoscope (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 21 October 2010 01:56 (thirteen years ago) link
no!!!
― stirmonster, Thursday, 21 October 2010 03:06 (thirteen years ago) link
oh jeez
― only ad hominem strawman can troll me (Edward III), Thursday, 21 October 2010 03:08 (thirteen years ago) link
This blows, the new Slits album was great fun, hoping to see what would happen next or see them play in the US. Gah...
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 21 October 2010 03:25 (thirteen years ago) link
i'm kinda freaked at how much this is fucking with me
― some droopy HOOS in makeup (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 21 October 2010 03:26 (thirteen years ago) link
seriously
― only ad hominem strawman can troll me (Edward III), Thursday, 21 October 2010 03:26 (thirteen years ago) link
like on the verge of real tears wtf
― only ad hominem strawman can troll me (Edward III), Thursday, 21 October 2010 03:28 (thirteen years ago) link
"typical girls" otm
― some droopy HOOS in makeup (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 21 October 2010 03:31 (thirteen years ago) link
God, no. Such an extraordinary person. Really, really sad.
― Arthur, Thursday, 21 October 2010 03:41 (thirteen years ago) link
Thoughts from Everett True -- I admit he was one of the first people I was wondering about after I took the news in:
http://www.collapseboard.com/ari-up-r-i-p
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 October 2010 03:43 (thirteen years ago) link
:(:(:( annoyed and sad that I never got a chance to see her - dodgy shows or not.
― Stockhausen's Helicopter Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Thursday, 21 October 2010 03:46 (thirteen years ago) link
saw her do a real wacky solo show maybe 7-8 years ago. An iconoclast.
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 21 October 2010 03:54 (thirteen years ago) link
Amoeba video here is cool: http://blogs.laweekly.com/westcoastsound/2010/03/the_slits_record_shopping_amoe.php
― Stockhausen's Helicopter Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Thursday, 21 October 2010 03:55 (thirteen years ago) link
"typical girls" blew 16-year-old me's mind and it (and nearly all of their stuff) still has a special place in my heart. RIP, and so young, too :(
― womack and bolio's (donna rouge), Thursday, 21 October 2010 03:55 (thirteen years ago) link
she once came to my club, stood around looking nonplussed and then took over the dance floor when the slits version of "i heard it through the grapevine" was played. a true one off. most sadly missed.
― stirmonster, Thursday, 21 October 2010 03:57 (thirteen years ago) link
so tough!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
― some droopy HOOS in makeup (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 21 October 2010 04:14 (thirteen years ago) link
:(
― george pimpton (s1ocki), Thursday, 21 October 2010 04:45 (thirteen years ago) link
iconoclast is right, I just happened to listen to a bunch of New Age Steppers today without knowing this.
sad and unexpected.
see you later alligatorin a while crocodile
― sleeve, Thursday, 21 October 2010 05:14 (thirteen years ago) link
I found about it on metafilter.com. I was reading along with the description and then it hit me: Her former stepfather John Lydon announced that Ari Up died today following a lengthy illness. The first thing I thought in my mind was "No!!!!" During college I fucking loved Cut, even though I haven't heard it in awhile. It is just so unexpected. I really liked her voice, her band, everything. :(
― lilsoulbrother, Thursday, 21 October 2010 05:19 (thirteen years ago) link
Man, awful, so young, RIP Arianna.
― Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 October 2010 09:15 (thirteen years ago) link
This is awful news.
RIP
― sonofstan, Thursday, 21 October 2010 09:25 (thirteen years ago) link
Too young. RIP
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 21 October 2010 11:39 (thirteen years ago) link
shocking news :(
RIP Ari
― underrated football teams I have owned (onimo), Thursday, 21 October 2010 12:01 (thirteen years ago) link
damn
― caol ila destroyer (nakhchivan), Thursday, 21 October 2010 12:07 (thirteen years ago) link
― Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Thursday, 21 October 2010 12:09 (thirteen years ago) link
Dammit! RIP.
― SoftDog (MaresNest), Thursday, 21 October 2010 12:15 (thirteen years ago) link
RIP Ari. one of a kind.
― a tenth level which features a single castle (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 21 October 2010 17:45 (thirteen years ago) link
listening to Cut & Return of the Giant Slits all day today...
― scaruffi kaleidoscope (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 21 October 2010 17:49 (thirteen years ago) link
Return of the Giant Slits!
― Remember the Dayne! (u s steel), Thursday, 21 October 2010 18:37 (thirteen years ago) link
The older I get, and the more musical phases I go through, the more I come to come to think that Cut is serious, top 10 or 20 of all time, desert island disc material for me. The way it plays with and rearranges musical convention (punk rock, reggae) and works within the band's instrumental and vocal limitations to create its art is, I think, absolutely inspirational and wonderful. RIP Ari.
― Santa's Choad (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 21 October 2010 19:23 (thirteen years ago) link
a very special talent, very special band
― S Beez Wit the Remedy (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 21 October 2010 19:45 (thirteen years ago) link
48 is so young. Just awful.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 21 October 2010 19:49 (thirteen years ago) link
Thread needs some music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOJs9oycX5E&p=7F9DDE3E43DCEA05&playnext=1&index=17
― Santa's Choad (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 21 October 2010 19:58 (thirteen years ago) link
― silence is a rhythm too (Turangalila), Thursday, 21 October 2010 19:59 (thirteen years ago) link
^^^pretty magical video -- RIP.
― tylerw, Thursday, 21 October 2010 20:00 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D8LmUHW48s
― stirmonster, Thursday, 21 October 2010 20:04 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCr8V5wAroA
― mr. mandelbrot flythrough vertigo, esq. (Edward III), Thursday, 21 October 2010 20:06 (thirteen years ago) link
menacing kittieshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnwyULT3Uks
― willem, Thursday, 21 October 2010 20:33 (thirteen years ago) link
WTF!! This is so sad and unexpected. I didn't know she was ill.
― leavethecapital, Thursday, 21 October 2010 21:39 (thirteen years ago) link
This is great!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRbvkh9ONzg
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 04:38 (eleven years ago) link
anyone read Viv's book?
― piscesx, Sunday, 21 December 2014 01:30 (nine years ago) link
Yes. Recommend.
― I Am The Cosmos Factory (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 21 December 2014 01:40 (nine years ago) link
Anybody heard her album? http://cadizmusic.com/2007/index.php?location=/web/Catalogue/CADIZCD117
― dow, Monday, 22 December 2014 04:29 (nine years ago) link
Album is great, full of wonderful turns of phrase, a different perspective on life and memorable tunes!
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 22 December 2014 05:13 (nine years ago) link