Anyone Know What Happened To Cindytalk?

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All this TMC / Cocteaus / 4AD love on ILM recently put me in mind of Gordon Sharpe and a record I've owned since around the mid 80s. It's Cindytalk's Camouflage Heart and it's never really gone away, for me. It's kind of industrial and goth, but Sharpe's distinctive voice whisks it away from the churningly predictable cartoon macho posturing that description might otherwise suggest. There's some Birthday Party / early Nick Cave comparisons lurking, too (no real surprise, given the era).


Anyway,

Who has heard this record? I have always loved it, but I'd be interested to hear other opinions.

And, perhaps more importantly, what ever happened to Cindytalk / Gordon Sharpe?

David A. (Davant), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 05:41 (twenty years ago) link

i can't find any references on the net to his whereabouts post '95, when the last Cindytalk album was released..

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 05:45 (twenty years ago) link

I heard it, I actually special ordered it after hearing the TMC thing. I didn't like it at all, but traded it away pretty quickly and don't have a clear memory of it. I"ve never seen it since then!

Sean (Sean), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 05:55 (twenty years ago) link

They've just released a new 7" single on the superbly eccentric viennese label Klanggalerie (limited to 150 copies!), there's also a short update about what Gordon Sharpe has been up to all these years!

www.klanggalerie.com

(catalog no gg62)

jack battery-pack (Jack Battery-Pack), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 08:25 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.klanggalerie.com

that's better.

jack batterypack (Jack Battery-Pack), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 08:29 (twenty years ago) link

Sorry, just caught up. Been away from a computer all day. Thanks for that, jack.

David A. (Davant), Thursday, 7 August 2003 04:42 (twenty years ago) link

three weeks pass...
The Cindytalk website is currently undergoing a makeover so you'll have to wait a bit more to read the interview .
However , you can listen to the excellent Transgender Warrior and also tracks by their more noize oriented project ,Bambule here :
http://touchedraw.com/catalogue/catalogue.html
Enjoy !

Phase Space, Monday, 1 September 2003 15:11 (twenty years ago) link

five months pass...
news from cindytalk on this site: cindytalk.org

gordon made a couple of rare recordings besides the great ch.
the double album: in this world, macbeth, a forgoten film track.

i have some of those release in my basement, the labels that appear on those recordings are: touched, midnight music.

talking about ch. this record reminds me a bottle of rare old j&b whiskey. you can't hear it everyday, and when you hear it, it moves you away.

i loved the tracks from ch:
memories of skin and snow
the ghost never smiles

i'm realy looking forward to explore some new recordings touch by the rare voice and style of gordon.


Ray/The Middle East, Wednesday, 25 February 2004 03:52 (twenty years ago) link

Good words -- I really need to explore all these links!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 03:56 (twenty years ago) link

I still have never seen another copy of the record since I traded away my copy almost 20 years ago.

Sean (Sean), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 04:25 (twenty years ago) link

I traded mine away, too, and, likewise, never seen it (though it was only 15 years ago). I'd bought it because it had Mick Harvey on it, and I've always liked him.

jazz odysseus, Wednesday, 25 February 2004 05:07 (twenty years ago) link

never seen it since .

jazz odysseus, Wednesday, 25 February 2004 05:08 (twenty years ago) link

I mean, I looked at it while I owned it, or I'd never have found the little hole in the center what fits it on the turntable.

jazz odysseus, Wednesday, 25 February 2004 05:09 (twenty years ago) link

two months pass...
As the other original and instruments behind CH its amazing to find people still interested in this piece or work after 20 years

Watch out for dark jazz

David Clancy, Thursday, 29 April 2004 21:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Well heya there, how very cool! Yep, fans are still here -- inspired by this revival I'm listening to Camoflauge Heart right now!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 29 April 2004 23:07 (nineteen years ago) link

four years pass...

hey, so, camouflage heart and in this world were reissued on LP. CD, too, i think. i need the first one. shit's so good, total art-goth.

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Sunday, 11 May 2008 13:21 (fifteen years ago) link

noise-goth? art-noise-goth-rock?

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Sunday, 11 May 2008 13:35 (fifteen years ago) link

"it's luxury" would be on my "crucial gothboy jams of the mid-eighties" mix

right in between a pre First & Last & Always b-side and "In this Glass House"

J0hn D., Sunday, 11 May 2008 14:35 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't like Cindytalk but I like talking about Cindytalk because it reminds me of teenagerhood. Also I can almost see that LP cover in my mind.

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Sunday, 11 May 2008 14:45 (fifteen years ago) link

the one thing I dislike about talking about this kinda music is that it makes me feel like I'm doing the young-in-the-eighties version of talking about how fucking great Clapton was

J0hn D., Sunday, 11 May 2008 14:51 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

no vocals on the new album!

scott seward, Thursday, 12 November 2009 17:58 (fourteen years ago) link

six months pass...

this album has really grown on me. its something that definitely benefits from repeated listenings. the crackle of my soul, that is.

scott seward, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 17:09 (thirteen years ago) link

three months pass...

from that Music For Your Ears website:

http://magiska.vlsweb.net.br/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/cindytalk-up-here-in-the-clouds1-400x354.jpg

(From Dusted)

What does it say about me, and the rest of the world, that the music of Cindytalk relaxes me? Whatever. It’s chilling me out. That’s what matters.

I’ve had the privilege of going absolutely batshit insane… what is it now? A couple of times in my life. The first time it happened, I was on a bus back to Atlanta after a week’s vacation, somewhere between Chicago and Indianapolis, massively hungover from a night of hard boozing with my little brother, with an angry kid kicking the back of my seat. My dub of my brother’s Ol’ Dirty Bastard CD was just pissing me off. So I put on God and Beast by Non, and drifted into a peaceful sleep.

This weekend, I went nuts again. And, as I live and breathe, I would not have survived it without this new shit from Cindytalk. When I’m healthy, I like music. When I go nuts, I dig noise.

Enough about me. Let’s talk about Gordon Sharp, a guy who may or may not be a dude, the guy who, basically, is Cindytalk, In preparation for writing this review, I downloaded his ’09 release, The Crackle of My Soul, and withstood it a few times. Not my thing. Gave me a headache. So what happened?

Gordon Sharp dug up a real winner. I am seriously chilled out right now. This clicking in the background of “Guts of London” is cheering me up. And I will be awake for work tomorrow. Or I’ve finally lost it. Which I forever refuse to admit.

Why does “We Are Without Words” remind me of my own mother’s heartbeat? Why does “The Eighth Sea” relax me like mediating by the Pacific Ocean? How is Up Here in the Clouds this asshole’s version of new age music? This is awkward. I’m going to bed.

Bee OK, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 03:26 (thirteen years ago) link

eMEGO 106
Cindytalk: Up Here In The Clouds CD

Release Date: 30.08.2010

9 tracks:

the eighth sea
we are without words
i walk until i fall
guts of london
switched to lunar
hollow stare
the anarchist window
multiple landings
up here in the clouds

recordings by gordon sharp 2003 - 2010 at the mid-levels (hk) but mainly at roi vert, okamoto japan.
mastered at piethopraxis, june 2010

Bee OK, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 03:30 (thirteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Hmm. I need that.

Listening to In This World for the first time as the rain falls...

Ned Raggett, Monday, 25 October 2010 04:38 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...

since nobody seemed interested in talking about it on the Mego thread, I might as well reiterate here just how amazing Up Here In The Clouds is. hypnotic ghost ambient

missingNO, Sunday, 9 January 2011 13:18 (thirteen years ago) link

did you ever get round to it, Ned?

what's the Bambule stuff like?

missingNO, Sunday, 9 January 2011 13:22 (thirteen years ago) link

did you ever get round to it, Ned?

Sadly no! I'd forgotten about it completely until this revive. :-/

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 9 January 2011 19:03 (thirteen years ago) link

there's a good live set from 2006 here

http://exoticpylon.com/sound/quietus%20mixes/A%20Distant%20Hand%20Lifted%202.mp3

missingNO, Wednesday, 12 January 2011 03:10 (thirteen years ago) link

The Ghost That Never Smiles is still so achingly perfect.

Marco Damiani, Wednesday, 12 January 2011 10:08 (thirteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Found reissues of In This World and Camouflage Heart for £2 a piece on Monday. Loving them both.

mmmm, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 21:13 (thirteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

New album kills. Wonderful listen.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 September 2011 17:14 (twelve years ago) link

four years pass...

picked up a used copy of the camaflage heard vinyl this weekend, what an amazing record it is. recommended if you like: xiu xiu, tmc, weird fucking noise

akm, Thursday, 23 June 2016 05:06 (seven years ago) link

heart, FFS

akm, Thursday, 23 June 2016 05:08 (seven years ago) link

four years pass...

Some reissues coming:

https://smarturl.it/cindytalkwappinschaw

https://smarturl.it/cindytalk-thewind

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 14:46 (two years ago) link


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