i've only listened to half of it, and it's pretty good, IMO...i luv minimal stuff but i find it lacking in funk, and this cd fills that gap rather nicely...
― manuel (manuel), Thursday, 14 August 2003 06:21 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 14 August 2003 12:20 (twenty years ago) link
Ricardo's best known for his solo projects, singles only as far as I know (Perlon, Playhouse and a few other joints), but he's also half (alongside Dandy Jack, AKA Martin Schopf) of Ric y Martin, and I believe he's working up something with Luciano, and then he's collaborated with Dandy Jack and Atom Heart as a trio, plus of course his role in Narod Niki (Hawtin, Schopf, Villalobos, Luciano, Dan Bell, Cabanne, Dimbiman, and Akufen) at this year's MUTEK.
― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Thursday, 14 August 2003 19:30 (twenty years ago) link
― stirmonster, Thursday, 14 August 2003 20:07 (twenty years ago) link
― Steve Kiviat (Steve K), Thursday, 14 August 2003 20:42 (twenty years ago) link
― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Thursday, 14 August 2003 21:21 (twenty years ago) link
I love Luciano! His productions have always got this irresistible urgency, mischief, and bounce. He's bringing the fun to microhouse!
― Philippe, Thursday, 14 August 2003 22:33 (twenty years ago) link
― todd l. burns, Thursday, 14 August 2003 23:12 (twenty years ago) link
― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Friday, 15 August 2003 23:35 (twenty years ago) link
My favorite Luciano 12" (of the ones I've heard, at least) is the one on Bruchstuecke or Birchstick or Brushstroke or whatever you call that label.
― Andy K (Andy K), Friday, 15 August 2003 23:49 (twenty years ago) link
Right now I'm fuming at my housemate; last night was my first gig in Barcelona and he ran off to Germany with my copy of Alcachofa. Can anyone suggest a fitting punishment upon his return?
― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Saturday, 16 August 2003 11:00 (twenty years ago) link
― tylero, Saturday, 16 August 2003 14:09 (twenty years ago) link
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Friday, 5 March 2004 05:06 (twenty years ago) link
― Andy K (Andy K), Friday, 5 March 2004 05:21 (twenty years ago) link
(I could never keep Primus' songs straight.)
― Andy K (Andy K), Friday, 5 March 2004 05:31 (twenty years ago) link
Sigh
― hector (hector), Friday, 5 March 2004 05:53 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 5 March 2004 06:09 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 5 March 2004 06:13 (twenty years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 5 March 2004 06:26 (twenty years ago) link
I think they price things up down here more than they do up in SF. Everytime I go to the Height store there is a ton of stuff available and some of the guys actually know what I am looking for.
― hector (hector), Friday, 5 March 2004 06:27 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 5 March 2004 06:36 (twenty years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 5 March 2004 06:38 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 5 March 2004 06:39 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 5 March 2004 06:40 (twenty years ago) link
― vahid (vahid), Friday, 5 March 2004 07:00 (twenty years ago) link
Damn Royal Mail.
― ___ (___), Friday, 5 March 2004 10:04 (twenty years ago) link
― ambrose (ambrose), Friday, 5 March 2004 16:48 (twenty years ago) link
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Friday, 5 March 2004 18:53 (twenty years ago) link
― Philippe (Philippe), Friday, 5 March 2004 18:59 (twenty years ago) link
Alex is right though, there seems to be little demand for Kompakt/Perlon/Playhouse in SF. Aquarius gets a few Kompakt bits but they have an admitted aversion to "dance music." I've never seen Playhouse or Perlon there. Amoeba gets a few Kompakt bits, the occasional Perlon, the occasional Playhouse, but only as new releases, I think. They never restock that. ('cept maybe for the Total series.) Tweekin' is yr best bet, though again it's mostly as new releases ('cept for Playhouse).
To bring this back to Villalobos, I'm a little disappointed w/ his mix for Luciano's "Alain Brito" on Peacefrog. Very deep and ripply but somehow missing the internal drive that his deep'n'ripply mixes of Heiko Laux, Auch, etc. have had. He seems to be going further and further from the dance floor. Perhaps that's not true - he's just shown he has no interest in peak moments, is much more interested in the long, drawn-out perpetual now. A very good thing, normally, but that track's not doing it for me.
― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Friday, 5 March 2004 19:17 (twenty years ago) link
Has anyone heard his Rob Hood remix on Logistic yet?
― Philippe (Philippe), Friday, 5 March 2004 19:38 (twenty years ago) link
― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Friday, 5 March 2004 19:42 (twenty years ago) link
As far as the demand for microhouse in SF the same goes for LA if not worse. At amoeba they refused to order the stuff until the Mayer Fabric Mix came out, now they stock a few titles mostly Mayer related. Can we all be so far off the boat that no one in California is listening to this stuff?
I mean its even kinda poppy and fairly easy to digest, its not like its Merzbow. Which I can find plenty of at Amoeba.
With the passing of EFA, Muzik, ect. is dance music going back underground?
― hector (hector), Friday, 5 March 2004 19:52 (twenty years ago) link
― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 02:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― hector (hector), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 03:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 03:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jacob (Jacob), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 04:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 04:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 06:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 14:58 (nineteen years ago) link
I suppose the "problem" with such a slot is that you've got to take a no-bullshit, let-it-all-hang-out approach. It's got to be a sequence of peaks, with no time to build up, cool down, and stretch out. In that way, I think he's better if he plays for four hours rather than an hour and a half. For instance, Villalobos and Dandy Jack played for a million hours on the last night of MUTEK 2002 and I was never bored.
― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 15:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 00:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 02:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 02:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 02:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 02:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 03:14 (nineteen years ago) link
RICARDO VILLALOBOS: thé au harem d'archimède
Details of a new mini album from RICARDO VILLALOBOS, due October 11th on Perlon.
RICARDO VILLALOBOS
Here are the details on the new Ricardo Villalobos mini LP on Perlon. Out October 11th, 2004 in Europe. Which is roundabout October 12th over here. When promos arrive I will let you know.
Ricardo Villalobosthé au harem d'archimède(Perlon)
3x12" / CD
perlon43/perlon43cd
tracklisting:3x12"
A1. hireklonB1. serpentinB2. forallseasonsC1. théorème d'archimèdeC2. hello haloD1. temenarc 1D2. temenarc 2E1. miamiE2. stereoboxF1. true to myself
tracklisting: CD
1. hireklon2. serpentin3. forallseasons4. théorème d'archimède5. hello halo6. temenarc 27. temenarc 18. miami9. true to myself
Archimedes' theorem defines the buoyant lift: Diving an object into a vessel full of water causes an increase of pressure inside the vessel. The displaced amount of water, i.e. the lifting force is equivalent to the object's body volume, i.e. its weight-force.
Transfering this theorem to the music of the overwhelming parallel universe of Ricardo Villalobos' new triple EP/album length CD, one will realize the following: Diving all of its notes into reality results in the displacement of the same to a high degree, since the music has an enormous volume by expanding airily. Which means nothing but the musical principle of psychedelics taking effect here. This time by using the method of reduction, Ricardo is closer to the tradition of the cultured jam sessions by the legendary German 70es musicians' collective Ash Ra Tempel around Manuel Goettsching (known from his Prototech solo production "E2-E4") than to the simply structured march through occasionally rather uninspired club metrics.
While experiencing this uniquely fascinating work the amazed listener is witnessing a musical terraforming, at the same time the colonization of the new planet: every single track creates a mystic space in which sound elements are able to spread out in all directions. Teeming, often melancholically coloured sound organisms awake on the field of free flows - among them Flamenco patterns ("Hireklon") or warming bass lines ("Miami"). Just as one is used to it concerning the tracks within Ricardo's DJ sets, which hardly can be marked by a simple definition of beginning and end any more. A confining grid is dissolved almost completely, physical laws are replaced by emotional ones - by the mathematics of intuition.
Ricardo's percussive talent is undisputed: the sophisticatedly elastic rhythm meanders of Latin American/Caribbean origin sound as if they have been introduced to the wild from the base of a cool, impeccably clean laboratory which is located somewhere in the Science Fiction vastness of the Chilean Atacama desert. The loss of sense of time appears in favour of the event of intensity. Frequently the tracks appear surprisingly volatile, despite the considerable playing times of several titles which are absolutely required for exhausting the free, rhythmic modulatons. One wishes them to last forever, like the whole production.
In the staggers of these animating blurrings of perception Archimedes' theorem transforms into the romantic image of "Tea in the harem of Archimedes". This synthetical mind expansion of bizarre beauty is highly addictive!
Source: Forced Exposure/FE Publicity e-mail
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Saturday, 28 August 2004 13:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― adam. (nordicskilla), Saturday, 28 August 2004 14:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― m. (mitchlnw), Saturday, 28 August 2004 14:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― I'm bad and dirty and going to hell (nordicskilla), Monday, 27 June 2005 21:36 (eighteen years ago) link
Do any of you have the vinyl version of Alcachofa? Is it just me or is it intentional for the 4 sides to switch rpm when you flip sides? It's very annoying.
― Moka, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 06:45 (nine years ago) link
It's also disorienting I swear dexter and easy lee sound slower than my mp3 versions but it might just be my ears.
Side A and C are definitely 33rpm and side B and D 45rpm but it doesn't have any info on why would they do this.
― Moka, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 06:49 (nine years ago) link
Yeah it is (annoying and intentional). The sides w one track're 45, those w two 33. Took me a few weeks to notice/look into this myself
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 06:50 (nine years ago) link
Ok I've had it for a few years now and noticed immediatly but assumed it was intentional. No idea why. I guess he just thought it would be fun for trolling vinyl djs or something like that.
― Moka, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 06:54 (nine years ago) link
It's cos it means he gets 45 quality sound where he can, I guess
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 06:55 (nine years ago) link
Oh yeah it's 3 vinyls. Didn't realize that the speed changed depending on the number of tracks per side... That's interesting. It might help me next time I play it but it is still annoying.
― Moka, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 06:56 (nine years ago) link
Frm memory that rule applies to everything of his, I got p anal abt checking all my Villalobos LPs/12s out after that (also once had sex to the incorrectly slow Easy Lee, which ws kinda creepy)
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 06:58 (nine years ago) link
He also tends to have different tracks between cd and vinyl and it's somewhere between cool and annoying. In this particular album it annoys me because he left out YGH out of the vinyl version and it's nowhere else to be found in vinyl format. Also some of my favorite tracks were only released on the cd version (waiworinao, fools garden and what you say) and the exclusive tracks on vinyl aren't as good as those.
― Moka, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 07:08 (nine years ago) link
I would have loved to have waiworinao or what you say instead of "i try to live" which is the only track in the album which I don't care for at all.
Specially mad about the exclusion of waiworinao as it's one of the highlights in here besides dexter and easy lee.
― Moka, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 07:15 (nine years ago) link
Not to be a dick, but:
http://www.discogs.com/Villalobos-Alcachofa-Tools/release/194548
http://www.discogs.com/Villalobos-Halma/master/124107
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 07:23 (nine years ago) link
Oh wait that's not what you meant, sorry. No sign of YGH as you obv know
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 07:26 (nine years ago) link
Yeah I know they are in there I would just prefer to have the same album and the extra tracks on an ep.
YGH is not in there btw!
― Moka, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 07:28 (nine years ago) link
in my world of young dance music vinyl, having one side 45 with one track and one side 33 with two tracks is a pretty standard move and hardly some unique trolling exercise by mr villalobos
― Tim F, Thursday, 31 July 2014 00:13 (nine years ago) link
it's certainly not unusual and as mentioned upthread is to do with maximising volume on each side depending on the length. unless you have an incredibly high end turntable, it's not really that much hassle to change the speed as you change sides, is it?
― stirmonster, Thursday, 31 July 2014 01:11 (nine years ago) link
Are the 45 sides the ones more likely to be played out? That'd also make sense.
― mh, Thursday, 31 July 2014 01:58 (nine years ago) link
My turntable cost about £150 15 years ago - ie it's entry-level - and to change speed you have to take the platter off and manually adjust the belt drive. So that is a hell of hassle for flipping speeds as you change sides, actually.
But I own Alcachofa on CD, so...
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 31 July 2014 09:43 (nine years ago) link
All mine it's only ever taken flicking a switch, only trolly move is never mentioning it on the sleeves bt he prob likes the idea of ppl listening to it at the "wrong" speed anyway
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Thursday, 31 July 2014 09:50 (nine years ago) link
i have a lot of admiration for this record and villalobos overall, but i find it hard to love. sometimes i feel like he is the autechre of dance music
― marcos, Thursday, 31 July 2014 13:31 (nine years ago) link
A+ zing
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Thursday, 31 July 2014 13:37 (nine years ago) link
I thought autechre were the autechre of dance music
― mh, Thursday, 31 July 2014 13:53 (nine years ago) link
lo i don't know in what universe autechre makes dance music
― marcos, Thursday, 31 July 2014 14:21 (nine years ago) link
less so these days
― mh, Thursday, 31 July 2014 14:24 (nine years ago) link
Damnit I thought that ws the joke
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Thursday, 31 July 2014 14:29 (nine years ago) link
sometimes i feel like he is the autechre of dance music
You mean that he's very good at it?
― ed.b, Thursday, 31 July 2014 14:49 (nine years ago) link
Gotta agree with Marcos. I admire the guys skills at putting together groovrs, but his music is often kinda alienating and gray. Very much like Autechre, yeah.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 31 July 2014 15:20 (nine years ago) link
plenty of autechre tracks could bang in a set.
― mattresslessness, Thursday, 31 July 2014 15:26 (nine years ago) link
haha like what?!
― the late great, Thursday, 31 July 2014 15:27 (nine years ago) link
"eutow" maybe
― the late great, Thursday, 31 July 2014 15:29 (nine years ago) link
idm always was a bit of a contradiction in terms
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 31 July 2014 15:39 (nine years ago) link
"montreal"?
― mattresslessness, Thursday, 31 July 2014 15:39 (nine years ago) link
not bang i guess, but work as an offset for a harder track or vocal. in a context where no one knows or cares that it's idm.
― mattresslessness, Thursday, 31 July 2014 15:42 (nine years ago) link
idk
― mattresslessness, Thursday, 31 July 2014 15:43 (nine years ago) link
yeah I can see early early autechre working in some sets, lots of incunabula i bet would work too
― the late great, Thursday, 31 July 2014 15:46 (nine years ago) link
flutter! maybe.
― festival culture (Jordan), Thursday, 31 July 2014 15:48 (nine years ago) link
i sort of take it back though, not a lot of banging autechre. i mean it's mostly chilltime for sure.
― mattresslessness, Thursday, 31 July 2014 15:49 (nine years ago) link
anyway lots of dahnce vinyl switches between 33 and 45. i thought it was about maximizing levels / sound quality esp. bass?
― mattresslessness, Thursday, 31 July 2014 15:51 (nine years ago) link
I've heard their work used well in a few mixes but it's usually a remix they did, or a short segment dropped in by Surgeon or other djs of his ilk
― mh, Thursday, 31 July 2014 16:02 (nine years ago) link
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― the late great, Thursday, July 31, 2014 11:27 AM (37 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
"oh yea, you know, like 'q3ztuuu,' '0102303-394,' 'XIDIDIII"' loads others!"
― marcos, Thursday, 31 July 2014 16:14 (nine years ago) link
lol
― mattresslessness, Thursday, 31 July 2014 16:15 (nine years ago) link
"I admire the guys skills at putting together groovrs, but his music is often kinda alienating and gray"
You know how people say that when you're about to freeze to death you start feeling all warm? A lot of Villalobos tracks have that effect on me.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 31 July 2014 17:07 (nine years ago) link
to be fair you can really fall into those grooves after the first eight hours of dancing
― mh, Thursday, 31 July 2014 17:21 (nine years ago) link
it doesn't bang necessarilly but
LOWRIDE
― brimstead, Thursday, 31 July 2014 18:02 (nine years ago) link
Dancing to Autechre is easy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiLK7S2fXqQ
― Moka, Thursday, 31 July 2014 18:18 (nine years ago) link
Surgeon could probably pull off "second bad vibel" in a set
― brimstead, Thursday, 31 July 2014 18:23 (nine years ago) link
^would listen so hard
― mattresslessness, Thursday, 31 July 2014 18:31 (nine years ago) link
dance too, lol
― mattresslessness, Thursday, 31 July 2014 18:33 (nine years ago) link
yeah iirc he (surgeon) actually has used autechre in several online mixes
― the late great, Thursday, 31 July 2014 18:40 (nine years ago) link
you could say autechre has been a "tool" of the "surgeon"
― mattresslessness, Thursday, 31 July 2014 18:42 (nine years ago) link
― brimstead, Thursday, July 31, 2014 1:23 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Totally.
Clipper is a total banger, too.
― ed.b, Thursday, 31 July 2014 23:31 (nine years ago) link