Pitchfork's Chris Ott takes No Prisoners

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The concept of "growing" is so pathetic - and the best part is this laughable conflation with it as some badge of depth, of wooden, True music, maaaaaaaaaaan. A "grower" is an album you don't like but either A) repeatedly subject yourself to because you know it has social currency and if you want to partake of its social currency you must submit to it on some level, or B) you ensure people know you're aware of until its handlers find some way of selling it in the future, at which point you can say "Oh yeah I remember that album, it came out last October", broadcasting your stature as an Alpha Consumer.

I am hitting you in the face with a baseball bat right now.

I really dislike this guy.

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 16 May 2016 16:56 (seven years ago) link

"I guess someone's trying to start Who Pays Influencers (this is a completely bullshit scenario people are trying to pretend is commonplace - companies are not giving cash to people on Insta to wear their clothes, anyone who believes this and reports it needs to get checked. It's like six people and they're legit celebrities beyond social media)." lol what

― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Monday, May 16, 2016 10:44 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol completely wrong!!

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 16 May 2016 18:13 (seven years ago) link

wait which person is wrong in this scenario

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Monday, 16 May 2016 18:19 (seven years ago) link

TBF Reddit isn't happy with everything he's saying:

whatever9991230 9 points 2 days ago
ive been way more disillusioned with music, recently. Every album is either a "surprise" release or pushed by the same marketing cycle. Is it too much for me to want something real/ is that even really possible anymore?

shallowrewards 0 points 2 days ago
Patience is a virtue. Just ignore the noise and definitely filter anyone out of your life who uses music in a competitive way. If anyone asks you if you've heard of a band or heard a record, I mean, just delete that person from your life. When people ask me that, I invariably say no, whatever the case may be. And if they start to recommend it to me, I tell them it doesn't really sound like my kind of thing. Their discomfort and disappointment in not being able to use music in a way they should not be using it is a wonderful feeling.

VERY_LARGE_BENIS_XD 41 points 2 days ago
Who the fuck is upvoting this? This idea is bizarre and misanthropic. Sure some people will do this in the competitive sense but others just want to turn you on to good music. I have found some great stuff by listening to friends and I'm all the happier for it.

Evan, Monday, 16 May 2016 18:56 (seven years ago) link

I nearly c&p'd that exact conversation.

how's life, Monday, 16 May 2016 19:03 (seven years ago) link

what an odd comment to make from a rock critic who shouts at people for not having heard certain obscure shoegazer albums

Neptune Bingo (Michael B), Monday, 16 May 2016 19:14 (seven years ago) link

did you expect anything but wisdom from VERY_LARGE_BENIS_XD

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Monday, 16 May 2016 19:16 (seven years ago) link

(also, it is equally unsurprising that one of the top threads is "hi, do you agree with all this mental snot I'm going to smear about political correctness and SJWs?" "yes yes this is good I completely agree")

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Monday, 16 May 2016 19:17 (seven years ago) link

If anyone asks you if you've heard of a band or heard a record, I mean, just delete that person from your life. When people ask me that, I invariably say no, whatever the case may be. And if they start to recommend it to me, I tell them it doesn't really sound like my kind of thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vx6IzwOdnac

le Histoire du Edgy Miley (difficult listening hour), Monday, 16 May 2016 19:18 (seven years ago) link

VERY_LARGE_BENNIES_XD

le Histoire du Edgy Miley (difficult listening hour), Monday, 16 May 2016 19:19 (seven years ago) link

nice

Sufjan Grafton, Monday, 16 May 2016 19:28 (seven years ago) link

okay i got curious and went to check out this 'r/indieheads' and wow the formatting is bad it's really ugly and unpleasant to look at

global tetrahedron, Monday, 16 May 2016 19:32 (seven years ago) link

wait which person is wrong in this scenario

― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Monday, May 16, 2016 1:19 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Ott is obv factually completely wrong

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 16 May 2016 19:41 (seven years ago) link

ok, just checking. (it would be concerning if my sister was getting paid bennies for an imaginary job!)

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Monday, 16 May 2016 20:27 (seven years ago) link

It's a weird claim to make even.

maybe eveything u think u know is a lie

Tim F, Monday, 16 May 2016 20:42 (seven years ago) link

(it would be concerning if my sister was getting paid bennies for an imaginary job!)

it would be fucking awesome!

it's getting ott in here / so take off all your clothes (stevie), Monday, 16 May 2016 21:07 (seven years ago) link

"maybe eveything u think u know is a lie"

i've got a thread for that...

The Case Against Reality: If snakes aren’t snakes and trains aren’t trains, what are they?

scott seward, Monday, 16 May 2016 21:12 (seven years ago) link

these zoologists with their jobs pretending snakes are real

If we've evolved to tolerate jokers like Ott for our survival, Ott is, in reality, even more intolerable than we perceive.

Sufjan Grafton, Monday, 16 May 2016 23:19 (seven years ago) link

https://twitter.com/CraigSJ/status/735220549685805062

"He tried and failed?"

"He tried and died."

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 02:55 (seven years ago) link

https://twitter.com/CraigSJ/status/735286559965077504

how's life, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 10:10 (seven years ago) link

Ott's obsession with Conde Nast/major media conglomerates is so stupid.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 15:56 (seven years ago) link

Ott's obsession with Conde Nast/major media conglomerates is so stupid.

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 25 May 2016 15:59 (seven years ago) link

Well, yeah.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 16:42 (seven years ago) link

two months pass...

transcribing an interview with a child dev. researcher and she said:

"So, it may be that some of the biological bennies of the attachment relationship have a sensitive period to them. "

Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 10 August 2016 19:16 (seven years ago) link

Oh dear.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 August 2016 20:01 (seven years ago) link

I say bennies all the time now lol

Spottie, Wednesday, 10 August 2016 20:19 (seven years ago) link

it's to the point where if i were offered a job that paid, say, 97K and bennies I might talk them down to 94K just because after taxes and shit it wouldn't make that much difference, just so i could live the #ottlyfe

Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 10 August 2016 20:32 (seven years ago) link

yup same

Spottie, Wednesday, 10 August 2016 21:15 (seven years ago) link

five months pass...

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mookieproof, Monday, 6 February 2017 15:43 (seven years ago) link

Heard about some scrap he and Craig Jenkins got into?

Ned Raggett, Monday, 6 February 2017 16:10 (seven years ago) link

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― mookieproof, Monday, February 6, 2017 10:43 AM (forty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Would look good on a t-shirt or mug I think

Evan, Monday, 6 February 2017 16:25 (seven years ago) link

donald trump reminds me of chris ott

Poliopolice, Monday, 6 February 2017 16:41 (seven years ago) link

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/pXGxkIeF5JA/hqdefault.jpg

Evan, Monday, 6 February 2017 16:55 (seven years ago) link

apparently went after craig jenkins in the middle of the night on twitter and said some nasty shit (don't know what he said, jenkins is referring to it but not repeating it)

nomar, Monday, 6 February 2017 17:11 (seven years ago) link

fascinating

k3vin k., Monday, 6 February 2017 17:12 (seven years ago) link

I wonder if history books will littered with references to infamous early 21st century twitter beefs.

Poliopolice, Monday, 6 February 2017 17:21 (seven years ago) link

Chapter IV: Azealia Banks

ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Monday, 6 February 2017 17:28 (seven years ago) link

what different do you expect from someone who's aligned himself so publicly with the alt-right

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Monday, 6 February 2017 17:30 (seven years ago) link

(ott, I mean)

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Monday, 6 February 2017 17:30 (seven years ago) link

He seems to be on a deleting spree - his account currently lists only 69 tweets. He's directed more than that at Jenn Pelly alone, I bet.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 6 February 2017 17:40 (seven years ago) link

69 tweets

nice

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Monday, 6 February 2017 17:49 (seven years ago) link

lmao

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 6 February 2017 17:53 (seven years ago) link

all of his tweets are retweets of noz rn pretty much

husked, tonal wails (irrational), Monday, 6 February 2017 18:00 (seven years ago) link

suprised, he's seemed like he's in a really good place lately

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7-dlPD6WAY

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 6 February 2017 18:01 (seven years ago) link

69 Love Tweets

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Monday, 6 February 2017 18:01 (seven years ago) link

apparently went after craig jenkins in the middle of the night on twitter and said some nasty shit (don't know what he said, jenkins is referring to it but not repeating it)

― nomar, Monday, February 6, 2017 11:11 AM (six hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

he went after jenkins for having a job, said 'yo' and other condescending shit for a while. i shouldn't have been awake with my phone in my hand to see it, but it was that kind of night.

goole, Monday, 6 February 2017 23:56 (seven years ago) link

what different do you expect from someone who's aligned himself so publicly with the alt-right

― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Monday, February 6, 2017 11:30 AM (six hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

what's the deal w/ this? can see he threw a few likes to one of those trumpy fashwave dealios...

goole, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 00:04 (seven years ago) link

four months pass...

so did someone take over his account as parody?? or is this real.

i guess it says something that i can't tell.

though the followers are way down so maybe it was restarted.

https://twitter.com/shallowrewards

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 21:10 (six years ago) link

Thank you for providing that link, because for some reason the block I had placed on it apparently wasn't there anymore. I've now solved that problem anew.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 21:16 (six years ago) link


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