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markers, Friday, 27 January 2012 16:18 (twelve years ago) link

helpful post, tbh

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 27 January 2012 16:22 (twelve years ago) link

hmmm, i guess if i had the opportunity to write one of these, i could buy a zillion copies at cost and then sell them in my store forever. bound to make some money that way eventually. i could just make people buy them. guilt them into buying one.

i only have one album i'd really want to write about though and i don't know how popular it would be.

scott seward, Friday, 27 January 2012 16:29 (twelve years ago) link

I've had oneive been writing in my head for a while now, but now that the call is up and the due date is relatively soon (relative to the lst of requirements, that is; when I submitted one in '08 thy didn't want nearly this much) I'm wondering if I'll ever have time to get enough of it own on paper.

Who wants to see the great Pavarotti sit on a pie? (jer.fairall), Friday, 27 January 2012 16:31 (twelve years ago) link

i only have one album i'd really want to write about though and i don't know how popular it would be.

The world wants to know!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 27 January 2012 16:32 (twelve years ago) link

what bands haven't been covered by this series who would actually sell a bunch of books? looking over the list of already published volumes i'm drawing a blank. i guess sales could also depend on whether the writer is a "known" writer.

tylerw, Friday, 27 January 2012 16:33 (twelve years ago) link

ned i still need to read your whole disco inferno thing. it's really long! good going, obviously.

scott seward, Friday, 27 January 2012 16:34 (twelve years ago) link

Hey, thank ya. Still surprised it came together as well as it did.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 27 January 2012 16:35 (twelve years ago) link

oh but jungle brothers done by the forces of nature. its weirdly the only album i've ever wanted to write at length about. and, within that, also write about a bunch of other stuff.

scott seward, Friday, 27 January 2012 16:36 (twelve years ago) link

The. Clash feels like one of the few titans that hasn't been covered yet, though I know that a "London calling" book has been stuck in limbo for years.

Think outside the rockist pantheon, though, and there are tonnes of major records that haven't been covered.

Who wants to see the great Pavarotti sit on a pie? (jer.fairall), Friday, 27 January 2012 16:37 (twelve years ago) link

has anyone done an Orb/Orbital/Prodigy book?

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Friday, 27 January 2012 16:39 (twelve years ago) link

isn't this series pretty much about the "rockist pantheon," aside from a few exceptions like the Celine Dion one?
I guess the 00s are fair game now. Is This It, by David Fricke. Sung Tongs by Carles.

tylerw, Friday, 27 January 2012 16:40 (twelve years ago) link

Carles is clearly going to pitch the Lana Del Rey album.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 27 January 2012 16:43 (twelve years ago) link

isn't this series pretty much about the "rockist pantheon,"

all the more reason to think outside it

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Friday, 27 January 2012 16:43 (twelve years ago) link

i think my reaction to the list of requirements ("ehhhh whatever then") might be demonstrative of my lack of ambition/attention span

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Friday, 27 January 2012 16:44 (twelve years ago) link

xpost -- Rather.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 27 January 2012 16:44 (twelve years ago) link

There's a Sung Tongs one? Cool!

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Friday, 27 January 2012 16:44 (twelve years ago) link

all the more reason to think outside it

Well, yeah, but the problem here becomes reconciling this with the need for a demonstrable audience for the book. Not to say that doesn't exist for records/artists outside the canon, but surely its a huge consideration.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 27 January 2012 16:46 (twelve years ago) link

ha, i was just making the sung tongs one (and the strokes one) up...
and yeah, thinking outside the pantheon is a good idea, just don't know if that's what the publishers are looking for. still, would be interesting to know if in the wake of the Dion book there was a flurry of offbeat pitches.

tylerw, Friday, 27 January 2012 16:46 (twelve years ago) link

and this is how canons get ossified and reinforced :((((((((

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Friday, 27 January 2012 16:47 (twelve years ago) link

sick of people talking about "canons"

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Friday, 27 January 2012 16:48 (twelve years ago) link

I really would like to write one about Siamese Dream, but its been pitched to death so it seems like the publishers aren't interested for whatever reason.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 27 January 2012 16:48 (twelve years ago) link

with good reason.

scott seward, Friday, 27 January 2012 16:49 (twelve years ago) link

damn, my self-imposed "no pumpkins bashing" rule gets broken over and over on ilm. please forgive me. but i blame anyone who mentions them, really.

scott seward, Friday, 27 January 2012 16:50 (twelve years ago) link

love you, ned.

scott seward, Friday, 27 January 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link

I fantasize about doing Secret Treaties.

Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Friday, 27 January 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link

I expected that from someone, tbh.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 27 January 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link

*says five hail neds*

scott seward, Friday, 27 January 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link

I fantasize about doing Secret Treaties.

I would read the shit out of this!

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 27 January 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link

its like a nervous tic...

scott seward, Friday, 27 January 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link

Roffle.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 27 January 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link

i probably wouldn't be too interested in reading a siamese dream book (no offense jon) but it is surprising that there hasn't been a pumpkins one yet, considering that they had major commercial success, but still retain a die hard following. despite corgan's best efforts.

tylerw, Friday, 27 January 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link

Someone do Blur's 13 plz

tropical mall lady (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 27 January 2012 16:53 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, i mean, i can see maybe 2,000 people being excited about a feelies book. guess it would help that there's literally no competition.

tyler, why not just write a 'proper' feelies book, rather than just a 33 1/3? it might actually be easier.

dave cool it (stevie), Friday, 27 January 2012 16:54 (twelve years ago) link

despite corgan's best efforts.

The key here. But yeah, I know the band isn't cool to like anymore, but I had a really personal, intense relationship with that record and its one of the few I feel well equipped enough to write about. The Pumpkins have a really rabid following that would likely eat up a book like that, but I think the "hip" factor makes it a non-starter.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 27 January 2012 16:54 (twelve years ago) link

Are these for sale as eBooks at all yet? They'd be kind of perfect for the format.

Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Friday, 27 January 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago) link

I don't think so, I really keep hoping they will thugh.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 27 January 2012 16:57 (twelve years ago) link

why not just write a 'proper' feelies book
i dunno, wouldn't that sell even less copies? and be even more work? (see i'm clearly not the person to write this -- i need to think about the love, not the big bucks!)

tylerw, Friday, 27 January 2012 17:01 (twelve years ago) link

Tyler is the boy with perpetual second thoughts.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 27 January 2012 17:03 (twelve years ago) link

how much do people tend to make out of these? how ilxors have written one?

banterdict cumberswag (cozen), Friday, 27 January 2012 17:03 (twelve years ago) link

how many, that is

banterdict cumberswag (cozen), Friday, 27 January 2012 17:04 (twelve years ago) link

judging from aero and whiney's twitter exchange, they've made very little money, if any.

tylerw, Friday, 27 January 2012 17:05 (twelve years ago) link

more work, yes, but you might get enough of an advance to make it worthwhile as a part-time hobby/project for 18 months or so... i've always assumed that 333rd books are to be done more for the love than the cash tbh.

dave cool it (stevie), Friday, 27 January 2012 17:06 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, sounds like they've not really seen much of anything from them. Which seems weird, because those two wrote some of the more popular entries that got lots of good buzz.

(xpost)

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 27 January 2012 17:07 (twelve years ago) link

Maybe not "weird" as much as "sad" because aero's book was amazing and he deserves to get mad paid for writing it.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 27 January 2012 17:07 (twelve years ago) link

i've never actually seen one in a bookstore, but i don't go to a lot of bookstores. and i never go to barnes & noble. they would probably have them there.

scott seward, Friday, 27 January 2012 17:10 (twelve years ago) link

No, actually they don't. I've never seen them in any Barnes & Noble. The only places I know to buy them is record shops.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 27 January 2012 17:11 (twelve years ago) link

i've seen a shelf of them somewhere irl, either in b&n or borders (rip)

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Friday, 27 January 2012 17:13 (twelve years ago) link

they show up occasionally at the big indie bookstore in denver, but the record store is where i've seen 'em most often.

tylerw, Friday, 27 January 2012 17:15 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah they tend to show up at indie stores -- last time I saw a batch was at a bookstore on Valencia in SF last month.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 27 January 2012 17:16 (twelve years ago) link


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