was also pleasantly surprised by Africa Speaks, almost bailed at the corny spoken word at the beginning, glad I didn't
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 21 July 2019 00:52 (four years ago) link
SHIT GODDAMN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKprh6mejgg
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 6 August 2020 03:18 (three years ago) link
Also want to report that through the Emitt rhodes thread of all places I discovered that Jose "Chepito" Areas put out a solo album in '74 that's on Spotify and is quite dope. A lot like early Santana, but with less guitar and more horns, plus the keyboard player utilizes an Arp from time to time.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 6 August 2020 03:21 (three years ago) link
“Yours Is the Light” from Welcome sounds like Carlos enlisted The Free Design to front the band.
― Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 6 July 2021 12:26 (two years ago) link
Count me in the Lotus brigade. There's this great moment on it where he busts out momentarily with the melody from "My Favorite Things", ending it with a climb up to a high-pitched wail. If you need only one moment to grasp the man's essential greatness (and I pretty much did)...
FWIW, I believe the moment in question happens during "Incident At Neshabur." Count me in too - as good as those first three albums are, I think Lotus is THE Santana masterpiece, easily Carlos's greatest album, not to mention the greatest configuration of the band.
― birdistheword, Thursday, 25 May 2023 19:50 (eleven months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiYBWwE0EvI
― Stevo, Thursday, 25 May 2023 20:22 (eleven months ago) link
Somebody points out in the comments on that video that Carlos Santana was only 26 in 1973.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 25 May 2023 21:44 (eleven months ago) link
In my high school art class, one of my fellow students seemed to paint nothing but portraits of Miles Davis and Carlos Santana. On our outing to the art gallery, he kept encouraging us and the teacher to take turns listening to Lotus on his Walkman. I still haven't heard it, though, partly because I found Welcome pretty dull and so wasn't that interested in exploring his jazz phase any further.
― Halfway there but for you, Friday, 26 May 2023 01:41 (eleven months ago) link
Lotus is closer to Agharta than any kind of jazz. It'll take your head off.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 26 May 2023 01:58 (eleven months ago) link
Goddammit:
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/carlos-santana-anti-trans-comments-concert-1234811691/
― read-only (unperson), Thursday, 24 August 2023 19:38 (eight months ago) link
he old. the crowd seems to be fine with it...
― scott seward, Thursday, 24 August 2023 19:41 (eight months ago) link
i tell you what, sometimes it seems like i ain't got nobody that i can depend on.
it's actually pretty fucking wild, carlos santana feels the need to get up and stage and announce his beliefs about my gender identity. carlos, i put half a sliced up chicken sausage in my leftover gluten-free spaghetti for lunch. what are your feelings about that? is it right? wrong? please, carlos, the world is waiting to hear your opinion about this pressing issue!
― Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 24 August 2023 21:59 (eight months ago) link
shutting up is so utterly free and these dudes still gotta say "I'm weighing in!" fuckin', awful.
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 24 August 2023 22:03 (eight months ago) link
I've noticed this thing with many boomers who are generally/generically progressive is do not get them started on Trans issues or pronouns.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 24 August 2023 22:32 (eight months ago) link
The free love generation
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 24 August 2023 22:35 (eight months ago) link
this guy has always been a pseudo spiritual nitwit
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 24 August 2023 22:40 (eight months ago) link
like what is this horseshit supposed to mean?“Here is my personal goal that I strive to achieve every day. I want to honor and respect all person’s ideals and beliefs whether they are LGBTQ or not,” he wrote. “This is the planet of free will and we have all been given this gift. I will now pursue this goal to be happy and have fun, and for everyone to believe what they want and follow in your hearts without fear. It takes courage to grow and glow in the light that you are and to be true, genuine, and authentic. We grow and learn to shine our light with Love and compliments. Have a glorious existence. Peace.”
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 24 August 2023 22:57 (eight months ago) link
"please remember me for how much my triple live album _lotus_ shreds and not for the colossally dumb shit i said towards the end of my life. thank you."
― Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 24 August 2023 23:13 (eight months ago) link
Devadipshit Carlos Santana
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 24 August 2023 23:26 (eight months ago) link
okay lol
― budo jeru, Thursday, 24 August 2023 23:27 (eight months ago) link
On the big 1999 album he wrote shit like "Dave Matthews! My soul brother! May our souls dance through the cosmos!" or some shit -- the sort of thing that Woody Allen would make fun of in 1977. These hippies are more dangerous than the GOP because they support a kind of inclusion that looks and talks like them
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 August 2023 23:27 (eight months ago) link
I'm trying very hard to do exactly this.
― read-only (unperson), Thursday, 24 August 2023 23:31 (eight months ago) link
I actually did like Santana and Lotus is a great live album, but I'm not sure he ever made a truly great studio album - I have reservations about even the best of them, and after 1975, I'm not sure he ever put out another track that I'd want to listen to again, let alone a whole album. He could still be a great guitarist - in late 1980, on three consecutive nights, Bob Dylan had three different guitarists sit in on "The Groom’s Still Waiting at the Altar" and Santana came out on top - but it also means he's no longer anything more than a good show on the nostalgia circuit. And now that's been ruined by his transphobia.
― birdistheword, Thursday, 24 August 2023 23:59 (eight months ago) link
I'm not sure he ever made a truly great studio album - I have reservations about even the best of them, and after 1975, I'm not sure he ever put out another track that I'd want to listen to again, let alone a whole album.
I don't want to have the conversation in any more depth than this, I really don't, but I'll rep for everything from the debut through Borboletta, which was 1974, and then it was pretty much 45 years of pandering swill until Africa Speaks, which came out in 2019. (That was when I interviewed him.)
― read-only (unperson), Friday, 25 August 2023 00:05 (eight months ago) link
So I guess he’s not great anymore.
― Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 25 August 2023 18:28 (eight months ago) link
people live too long now.
― scott seward, Friday, 25 August 2023 18:32 (eight months ago) link
if he had choked on his own vomit and died when he was 30 we would all have santana tattoos. well, i wouldn't but more people would. you gotta think of these things when you are young. remembering to die that is.
― scott seward, Friday, 25 August 2023 18:33 (eight months ago) link
(i will always love pretty much everything he did in the 70s - like, ALL of it - but that plane crash in january of 1981 - so soon after brother lennon - i'll never forget where i was. hardees. waterbury, connecticut.)
― scott seward, Friday, 25 August 2023 18:34 (eight months ago) link
― deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 25 August 2023 18:46 (eight months ago) link
This is really going to interfere with my enjoyment of The Grammy-Award Winning 1999 Hit Smooth By Santana Feat. Rob Thomas of Matchbox Twenty Off The Multi-Platinum Album Supernatural
― chr1sb3singer, Friday, 25 August 2023 18:58 (eight months ago) link
I've noticed this thing with many boomers who are generally/generically progressive is do not get them started on Trans issues or pronouns.― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 24 August 2023 22:32 (yesterday) link
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 24 August 2023 22:32 (yesterday) link
makes me glad Jerry Garcia isn't around because i always have this fear he would've said some stupid shit like this as well.
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Friday, 25 August 2023 19:15 (eight months ago) link
otm
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Friday, 25 August 2023 19:15 (eight months ago) link
ALL of them will say stupid shit if you ask them!
― scott seward, Friday, 25 August 2023 19:24 (eight months ago) link
i dunno, i say stupid shit too. not in front of a packed concert crowd though. if i were rich i would shut up so hard!
― scott seward, Friday, 25 August 2023 19:25 (eight months ago) link
yah idk. Garcia didn't really volunteer a lot of opinions. Weir does interviews all the time, I think he's like 80, he doesn't pull this shit.
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 25 August 2023 19:27 (eight months ago) link
true, neither does Fogerty, Neil, etc
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Friday, 25 August 2023 19:28 (eight months ago) link
or Dylan, Joni, Mick or Keith (afaik...)
― ROSE, W. AXL UNITED STATES INDIVIDUAL (morrisp), Friday, 25 August 2023 19:31 (eight months ago) link
#notallboomers
― budo jeru, Friday, 25 August 2023 19:32 (eight months ago) link
Also possible to be progressive on these issues and still a Boomer, for ex Deborah Harry and Chris Stein of Blondie (Harry being older than Santana or Alice Cooper).
― Josefa, Friday, 25 August 2023 19:34 (eight months ago) link
I think Neil Young learned his lesson after coming out for Reagan in the early 80s.
― read-only (unperson), Friday, 25 August 2023 19:35 (eight months ago) link
xp or vocally hostile to trans folks and not a Boomer (like several prominent names that immediately come to mind)
― ROSE, W. AXL UNITED STATES INDIVIDUAL (morrisp), Friday, 25 August 2023 19:36 (eight months ago) link
santana's a boomer but none of the others are
― mark s, Friday, 25 August 2023 19:41 (eight months ago) link
I know but the term Boomer is regularly used as a catchall when generalizing about older ppl (including on here) and without slicing & dicing exactly when they were born in relation to 1946 (so I take the term in that spirit).
― ROSE, W. AXL UNITED STATES INDIVIDUAL (morrisp), Friday, 25 August 2023 19:43 (eight months ago) link
i am also a boomer and i appreciate a more meticulous precision (including on here)
― mark s, Friday, 25 August 2023 19:45 (eight months ago) link
Well that's certainly fair (I'd prefer fewer age-based generalizations at all...)
― ROSE, W. AXL UNITED STATES INDIVIDUAL (morrisp), Friday, 25 August 2023 19:47 (eight months ago) link
yoo no boomah yoo a sinkah
― scott seward, Friday, 25 August 2023 19:48 (eight months ago) link
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-8pRL2ot2J58/UmjlfwfGFFI/AAAAAAAAOd8/do0NRAr-hmY/s1600/both.gif
― mark s, Friday, 25 August 2023 19:51 (eight months ago) link
okay sorry i don't want to be anti-boomer in honor of my good friend sang froid he doesn't like it when i boomerbait. i think lots of people say dumb stuff about sex and gender all the time. no age is immune really. its a hard subject for a lot of people to wrap their heads around. especially if they grew up with religion. it can be hard for me! but i keep reading and learning and i talk to my kids about it all the time because they are experts. and i read the ilx.
and jesus yeah i just can't imagine saying the shit that carlos said. in public. to people! so damaging. just let people enjoy the show, stupido!
― scott seward, Friday, 25 August 2023 19:53 (eight months ago) link
The one time I saw Santana in concert, in 1988, I feel like they only played two or three songs that even had vocals. The rest of the time they shut the fuck up and jammed. He should go back to that.
― read-only (unperson), Friday, 25 August 2023 19:58 (eight months ago) link
Yeah it's (not)funny this week at least three big terfy bs bombs from music icons (iswis) but all offered up in v different ways (Roisin on social media somewhat uncoaxed, Alice Cooper in an interview response where he just started digging a hole out of practically nothing and Santana on stage).
― nashwan, Friday, 25 August 2023 20:11 (eight months ago) link