Chris Isaak: Classic or Dud?

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The Handsome Retro Crooner shtick is a bit old, but damn he has some great songs. A near-classic for me, I suppose, based on Heart Shaped World, Forever Blue, and Baja Sessions.

Thoughts?

Aaron, Monday, 10 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Aaron, I think you need your medication. ;-)

nathalie, Monday, 10 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I can see how people might be turned off by the 50's schtick, but Forever Blue is so fucking great, Baja Sessions was a little ho-hum after that.

fritz, Monday, 10 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I actually liked Baja Sessions a bit more, but that's me. Classic, sure. A friend once asked me after I expressed my liking, "You mean you like that one song of his he's rewritten about 100 different times?" To which I responded, "Yes, because it's a GREAT SONG."

Ned Raggett, Monday, 10 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

"You mean you like that one song of his he's rewritten about 100 different times?" To which I responded, "Yes, because it's a GREAT SONG.""

I have always wanted to like Chris Isaak's other stuff because of Wicked Game' and I feel like I've given him a fair chance. My problem is that his other attempts to write this song over again (which, I agree, would be just fine)are not nearly as good. I wouldn't say outright dud though, cause that song is still great.

hans, Monday, 10 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Auto fellatio = classic!

Arthur, Monday, 10 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I really really like Isaak. At first i thought it was because i masterbated to his image (cf. Jason McCoy,Ben Folds ) but then i saw Eyes Wide Shut and realized how well his schtik worked.

anthony, Monday, 10 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

three years pass...
Revive!

I'm listening to 'Somebody's Crying' right now and it is a supremely sublime pop song. The only bad thing about it is that it's only 2 minutes and 47 seconds long.

righteousmaelstrom (righteousmaelstrom), Thursday, 30 June 2005 18:38 (eighteen years ago) link

i like his "acting"

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 30 June 2005 18:52 (eighteen years ago) link

i used to own all his records btw, somewhere along the line i gave them up. i think maybe i still have his first two on cassette though?

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 30 June 2005 18:54 (eighteen years ago) link

I had the one album that had Somebody's Crying on it. Sold it but recently obtained the song. I think that's pretty much all I need.

He's at least classic for all of his cameos in Jonathan Demme's movies.

righteousmaelstrom (righteousmaelstrom), Thursday, 30 June 2005 19:30 (eighteen years ago) link

then i saw Eyes Wide Shut and realized how well his schtik worked.

someone explain this

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 30 June 2005 19:53 (eighteen years ago) link

I did "Wicked Game" last weekend at karaoke, to much success, I think.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 30 June 2005 19:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Chris Isaak is a hottie!

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 30 June 2005 19:59 (eighteen years ago) link

that album (Forever Blue?) starts out great - Somebody's Crying, Graduation Day and Baby Did A Bad Thing all in a row. Kind of peters off from there, though.

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 30 June 2005 20:01 (eighteen years ago) link

got me a soft spot for some of his stuff. pretty much like _san francisco days_ straight through and bits off others but kind of lost interest in keeping up after _forever blue_, which as stated above starts of great then meh. he's great for singing along too real loud in the car by oneself!

andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Thursday, 30 June 2005 20:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, Heart-Shaped World, San Francisco Days, and Forever Blue are minor classics. My picks: "Go Walking Down There," "Two Hearts," "Blue Spanish Eyes."

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 30 June 2005 21:32 (eighteen years ago) link

does he have a best-of? because an appropriately done compilation would be fucking great.

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 30 June 2005 21:34 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah, it's the chin: the best of chris isaak

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 30 June 2005 21:45 (eighteen years ago) link

aw, how cute, his last record was a christmas album!

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 30 June 2005 21:59 (eighteen years ago) link

ten months pass...
Best of out today!

Pretty good track list, if a bit odd.

dan. (dan.), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 17:16 (seventeen years ago) link

It doesn't have Funeral In The Rain, so I say it's dud.

StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 17:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I prefered Black at the time. What happened to him/them?

Rakkas, Tuesday, 9 May 2006 21:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Silvertone's still my favorite album.

VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 01:03 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

I'm disappointed there's not more love for Chris Isaak on ILM.

I only got the self title dalbum, which I played to death while in college. What should I get next? Maybe just the best of?

baaderonixx, Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:12 (sixteen years ago) link

san francisco days!

andrew m., Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:14 (sixteen years ago) link

I only really know Wicked Game, but I like it. It's cleverly produced in that it gets a hell of a lot of atmosphere out of quite a minimal arrangement.

chap, Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:15 (sixteen years ago) link

Heart-Shaped World is a very fine minor record I always think I should play more often (and then forget). The one with "Somebody's Cryin'" isn't bad either.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:25 (sixteen years ago) link

he's pretty fucking pedestrian

and i don't actually mind certain songs. it's just that he doesn't vary it up at all, and probably doesn't have the compotency to do so.

Charlie Howard, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 07:39 (sixteen years ago) link

he was 51 yesterday.

jed_, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 10:51 (sixteen years ago) link

he's hott.

jed_, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 10:51 (sixteen years ago) link

it's just that he doesn't vary it up at all, and probably doesn't have the compotency to do so.

word is he's working on a single with fabolous. timbo back at the helm. now who's incompetent?!

pedestrian, fair enough at times. but he's a niche kinda artist. what do you expect?

andrew m., Wednesday, 27 June 2007 14:34 (sixteen years ago) link

i do love the Eyes Wide Shut usage of that song - great scene, graet mood

Surmounter, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 16:31 (sixteen years ago) link

I have to say I've always loved "Things Go Wrong."

Jazzbo, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 16:33 (sixteen years ago) link

david lynch directed the video for Wicked Game.

Steve Shasta, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 16:36 (sixteen years ago) link

No he didn't.

baaderonixx, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 16:43 (sixteen years ago) link

That was Herb Ritts (in that very 90's fashion stylee)

baaderonixx, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 16:44 (sixteen years ago) link

It was used in Lynch's "Wild at Heart" during the fatal crash scene.

Jazzbo, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 16:46 (sixteen years ago) link

About 15 years ago i was talking to record-store owner (and complete failure) who recommended Isaak saying that "tastes change as you get older". I still find his whitebread version of pablum undigestable and probably won't until i reach my shuffleboard years.

I can see why lots of folks like him, i'm just not one of them. For that mellow, "adult" sound, I'll take Nicolai Dunger or Thomas Dybdahl.

christoff, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 17:29 (sixteen years ago) link

Lynch directed a video for Wicked Game, just not the helena christensen beach romp one.

jed_, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 17:51 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iXAlSDq34A

milo z, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 19:30 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

C0L1N B..., Monday, 26 January 2009 05:30 (fifteen years ago) link

butt-rock miyagi (rogermexico.), Monday, 26 January 2009 07:43 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

"Two Hearts." What a lovely trifle. That's all.

sandra lee, gimme your alcohol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 November 2010 03:15 (thirteen years ago) link

he's good in Fire Walk With Me. there should have been a show about his character and Kiefer's sidekick guy. maybe in the long-promised extended version there'll be more of him.

piscesx, Monday, 8 November 2010 03:56 (thirteen years ago) link

The Baja Sessions version of "Two Hearts" is really nice (as is the rest of that album).

no place running the schools (Eazy), Monday, 8 November 2010 22:24 (thirteen years ago) link

six months pass...

Sometimes 'Wicked Game' is just the best song in the whole world. And one would wish the whole world is tuned into it, simultaneously, 6 billion people rejoicing in the hazy, sultry gorgeousness of this beauty. Fuck.

Whiney G makes me wanna smoke crack (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 12 May 2011 00:54 (twelve years ago) link

that album is a minor classic: I dig it out every year or so and play it, able to hum every song. "Blue Spanish Sky" and "Wrong To Love You" are favorites.

ginny thomas and tonic (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 May 2011 01:04 (twelve years ago) link

Oh man yeah, 'Blue Spanish Sky' is so so awesome.

Whiney G makes me wanna smoke crack (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 12 May 2011 01:08 (twelve years ago) link

haha alfred that's the second time you've used the phrase "minor classic" in this thread and it's still otm.

and yeah, "wrong to love you" is killer. i used to know how to play that. it's dead simple so i should go figure it out again.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Thursday, 12 May 2011 05:16 (twelve years ago) link

I don't like Heart Shaped World as much as the s/t debut, but it's good and, yeah, "Wicked Game" is transcendental.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 12 May 2011 05:53 (twelve years ago) link

There was a time when I owned most of the other albums (at least though the end of the 90s), but I keep going back to the first one. "Blue Hotel" is absolutely killer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zanYf6c-DpA

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 12 May 2011 05:55 (twelve years ago) link

and

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiuuptHvl7o&feature=related

"blue hotel" is off his second album tho, right? silvertone was the debut.

always have time for the crystalline entity (contenderizer), Thursday, 12 May 2011 06:33 (twelve years ago) link

Oh yeah, you're right. I'd forgotten about Silvertone.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 12 May 2011 06:35 (twelve years ago) link

I should listen to it again, because "The Lonely Ones" sounds REALLY good right now.

Something about Silvertone and the s/t just sound a little looser and meaner than what came afterwards.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 12 May 2011 06:36 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, i mean i haven't listened to those records lately, but there's an authentic (ha) tuffness & vulnerability to the 1st two that i like a lot. you have to think that they influenced david lynch in some sense, whether or not he'd admit it. so otherworldly...

and "the lonely ones" is AMAZING, a forgotten classic. was kinda shocked how good it sounded in the here and now. can't say i followed his career too closely in the wake of wicked game.

always have time for the crystalline entity (contenderizer), Thursday, 12 May 2011 06:48 (twelve years ago) link

can't say i followed his career too closely in the wake of wicked game.

What came after was really hit and miss. His series on Showtime was pretty funny, though. I always thought he had a keen comedy muscle that went unflexed outside of the occasional talk show appearance and his short-lived series.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 12 May 2011 06:54 (twelve years ago) link

oh yeah, forgot about that

always have time for the crystalline entity (contenderizer), Thursday, 12 May 2011 07:10 (twelve years ago) link

Weird. Trentemøller just recorded a cover of "Blue Hotel" that's both a wildly variant interpretation of Isaak's original and still nothing like what I think of when I think Trentemøller.

http://soundcloud.com/finger-magazine/trentemoller-blue-hotel

Johnny Fever, Monday, 16 May 2011 14:06 (twelve years ago) link

first three albums are ace, and actually, the next two weren't too bad either.

akm, Monday, 16 May 2011 19:54 (twelve years ago) link

i was just going to say "he should make a new album and tour" and I guess he's done both of these things and is touring now. although he's playing like, vineyards and crap.

akm, Monday, 16 May 2011 19:57 (twelve years ago) link

five months pass...

Listening to his new album of Sun Records covers and Great Cthulhu, this is the best musical comfort food ever!

Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Saturday, 22 October 2011 04:38 (twelve years ago) link

I wasn't especially tempted by this, but then got a freebie and it is surprisingly enjoyable. There doesn't seem to be a comment on his christmas album above. Since CI always reminds me of sunny US days, an xmas album seems like a bad idea, but it's actually OK...

Canfan, Saturday, 22 October 2011 15:14 (twelve years ago) link

this guy never ages.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 22 October 2011 22:55 (twelve years ago) link

does anyone remember his short-lived cable TV series??

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 22 October 2011 22:55 (twelve years ago) link

one year passes...

"Look at all you happy people; wish I could be like you. . ."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcnSZwkwUMs

Total classic.

Forever Blue is just about as good as they get. I just didn't know it at the time. . .

Rest of his catalogue is good, too.

Austin, Saturday, 13 April 2013 08:43 (eleven years ago) link

"Go Walking Down There" got lots of airplay here. Cool song.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 13 April 2013 11:30 (eleven years ago) link

"Forever Blue" and "San Francisco Days" were both great.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 13 April 2013 13:35 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9SXTfSxXUQ

cougars and sneezers (Eazy), Saturday, 13 April 2013 15:31 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDhzMPvkoys

cougars and sneezers (Eazy), Saturday, 13 April 2013 15:32 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G-5quGyj1g

cougars and sneezers (Eazy), Saturday, 13 April 2013 15:42 (eleven years ago) link

five months pass...

I love the fact he has more of a singing cowboy style voice then a "rock voice". Either he was born into that or he really understands guys like Roy Orbison to a T. Either way hats off to him.

Forever Blue is my record of the moment and I have Baja Sessions on the way. I'll also probably pick up the Christmas Record before the holidays come around.

DavidLeeRoth, Thursday, 19 September 2013 13:04 (ten years ago) link

Big fan of San Francisco Days. That and Forever Blue are as good as it gets for this kind if thing, quality songs included along with the presentation.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 19 September 2013 13:57 (ten years ago) link

"Forever Blue" and "San Francisco Days" were both great.

― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, April 13, 2013 8:35 AM (5 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i still think of these as his "recent albums" since they came at the tail end of my chris isaak fandom

guy seems to be in a writing drought--only one album of new material in 11 years

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 19 September 2013 14:49 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

Yeah, what's up with Chris Isaak? He had a really solid winning streak, and then just sort of ... stopped? Or at least, stopped getting any traction? He had the rare (a la UB40) hit with a song off an earlier album, had cool cachet, had some memorable acting roles in hip films. He's really funny, good looking. Is it just a matter of pop culture moving on? Is he an act like Los Lobos, with a hugely solid and popular catalog that just became instantly unfashionable?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 20 July 2015 21:23 (eight years ago) link

He's retired and living off residuals from The Chris Isaak Show.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 03:55 (eight years ago) link

He's one of the hosts for X Factor Australia:
http://www.examiner.com/article/guy-sebastian-chris-isaak-james-blunt-join-x-factor-australia-judging-panel

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 04:03 (eight years ago) link

ten months pass...

CLASSIC

niels, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 10:14 (seven years ago) link

yup

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 25 May 2016 15:08 (seven years ago) link

in more ways than one

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 25 May 2016 15:08 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4K35PUYZJSw

still my fave despite its use in that dumb and occasionally creepy movie about how men are afraid of commitment (which i realize describes like hundreds of movies).

dc, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 15:19 (seven years ago) link

two years pass...

Depressing, sad story about James Wilsey's final days
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/king-of-slow-guitarist-james-calvin-wilsey-784335/

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 02:39 (five years ago) link

Wow. Thanks for posting, I guess.

Only a Factory URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 02:56 (five years ago) link

“Jimmy Wilsey of the Avengers was a young musician doing really interesting stuff that was really supportive of the song,” Klaus Flouride, bassist for the Dead Kennedys said in an interview with the online site MusicRadar"

Avengers were so great, their music still sounds amazing

Dan S, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 03:12 (five years ago) link

Anyway.... Wilsey used to post quite a bit on the Telecaster Discussion forums. Some great info there - recommend this thread for anyone interested in the 70s punk scene in SF.

Intense vivid memory of seeing Chris Isaak covering "Heart Full Of Soul" on Johnny Carson in 1987 and thinking to myself "that's exactly how I want my guitar to sound"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=304DVYd9SXc

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 20:26 (five years ago) link

Whatever you think of Chris Isaak or the song's overexposure, "Wicked Game" is an all-timer, if only for the guitar sound.

Sam Weller, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 08:04 (five years ago) link

It's definitely worth owning his Best Of compilation.

Dude's songs are helped by always immaculate production.

triggercut, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 08:24 (five years ago) link

The male Lana Del Rey

Siegbran, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 09:19 (five years ago) link

spot on

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 12:02 (five years ago) link

I love all his stuff, but especially Forever Blue and San Francisco Days. Totally classy, great songs and playing. He did OK for himself, but I was just thinking yesterday about a different timeline where he covered "Girl You'll Be A Woman Soon" and it was used in "Pulp Fiction." Isaak's "Solitary Man" is super:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBV3topsAVg

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 14:03 (five years ago) link

lol Siegbrain totally!

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 January 2019 14:26 (five years ago) link

three years pass...

Lots of guitarist biographies released this year, but this is the one I'm looking forward to the most.

https://www.seattlestar.net/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/cover.jpg

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 2 September 2022 05:58 (one year ago) link

"Wicked Game" alone is sufficient to ensure his place in the pantheon.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 2 September 2022 18:53 (one year ago) link

Love that guy’s music and the fact that he played both bass and guitar at such a high level. Apparently he had the classic super-addicted musician personality so I believe there will be a lot of S, D and R&R leading to agonizing inevitable slow and steady decay and organ failure.

I’d Rather Gorblimey (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 2 September 2022 19:11 (one year ago) link

He was quite a bit older than Isaak, right?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 2 September 2022 19:11 (one year ago) link

seven months pass...

Isaak thoughts for the day:

San Francisco Days is the shit. I considered getting the red vinyl from RSD last year but apparently it's *not* the shit. The CD sounds pretty incredible anyway.

I haven't heard anything of his since The Baja Sessions, but everything up to and including that is pretty terrific.

He was always a musician following his own path, and he'd exclusively be a cult figure if "Wicked Game" didn't happen. As it is, he's both a minor legend and a cult figure. I think the LDR comparison is pretty apt, and he's also a bit like Richard Hawley. They're all retro-styled artists who manage to carve out a singular voice in a style which doesn't hide its influences and in fact displays them proudly, and never at all feels like a crummy watered-down version of the supposed real deal imo.

"can't do a thing to stop me" is the one that gets in my head the most, when "Wicked Game" doesn't.

omar little, Friday, 21 April 2023 16:24 (one year ago) link

I love the esprit du corps of "Two Hearts."

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 21 April 2023 16:42 (one year ago) link

timeless + classic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HLGHF-K75Y

StanM, Friday, 21 April 2023 23:22 (one year ago) link

He's so good. Funny, too.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 21 April 2023 23:25 (one year ago) link


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