― Teen Challenge Drug Addict Choir (mjt), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 10:03 (twenty years ago) link
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― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Saturday, 22 May 2004 05:10 (nineteen years ago) link
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― jazz odysseus (jazz odysseus), Saturday, 22 May 2004 05:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― ken taylrr (ken taylrr), Saturday, 22 May 2004 07:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Saturday, 22 May 2004 14:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― Bimble (bimble), Saturday, 22 May 2004 14:50 (nineteen years ago) link
basically yes agreed, the first four. that fairlight was the end of him.
the less said about Neu! 4 the better... half finish jams from two days in the late 80's, rother was furious when dinger released it. it goes for insane prices: do not bother with it.
― (Jon L), Saturday, 22 May 2004 20:24 (nineteen years ago) link
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― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 27 May 2004 03:39 (nineteen years ago) link
yes, he was. One of the best producers ever. Someone should write something about the great German producers like Conny, Uwe Nettlebeck and Dieter Dierks pre-Scorpions and how they influenced lots of other people.
― Marco Damiani (Marco D.), Thursday, 27 May 2004 14:35 (nineteen years ago) link
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― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 27 May 2004 14:44 (nineteen years ago) link
More or less.
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 27 May 2004 14:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Marco Damiani (Marco D.), Thursday, 27 May 2004 14:52 (nineteen years ago) link
you bringing up the whole Autobahn thing?
― (Jon L), Thursday, 27 May 2004 18:15 (nineteen years ago) link
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― (Jon L), Saturday, 29 May 2004 20:58 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHu9QryT0Xw
― ☪, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 20:27 (sixteen years ago) link
einarehn (1 day ago) Gay!
― am0n, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 21:56 (sixteen years ago) link
That was terrific.
― willem, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 10:19 (sixteen years ago) link
Corny German hippie.
― Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 10:48 (sixteen years ago) link
There's a big batch of Rother reissues coming soon on Water- Sternthaler, Fernwarme, Flammende Herzen, and Katzenmusik.
― Telephone thing, Friday, 14 September 2007 13:03 (sixteen years ago) link
Yes!
― baaderonixx, Friday, 14 September 2007 13:28 (sixteen years ago) link
Again?
― Tom D., Friday, 14 September 2007 14:12 (sixteen years ago) link
AWESOME. got any more info on these?
― BATTAGS, Friday, 14 September 2007 16:51 (sixteen years ago) link
technically never been available in the US, and I bet you Water will be smart enough to leave off those horrible bonus tracks of 90's remixes that marred the SPV editions, which retailed for $25+ when they came out before dropping... probably english liner notes as well.
Water picked the first four, the ones with Jaki on drums & Conny producing. they know their music, those guys
― Milton Parker, Friday, 14 September 2007 16:51 (sixteen years ago) link
On 01 July 2007 Michael Rother joined the Red Hot Chili Peppers for the endjam at their concert in Hamburg. John Frusciante, Flea, Chad Smith, Josh Klinghoffer and Michael Rother played for about 25 minutes to an enthusiastic crowd of 35.000 people
― mizzell, Friday, 14 September 2007 16:55 (sixteen years ago) link
Amazon doesn't have tracklistings yet, but the solicitation text doesn't mention the bonus tracks, thank god. I'm happy it's Water putting these out, after they did such a good job with the Cluster/Eno material, and not, say, Cleopatra's "Purple Pyramid" Kraut/psych division.
― Telephone thing, Friday, 14 September 2007 17:43 (sixteen years ago) link
Rother has done a whole tour with John Frusciante, so makes sense.
― baaderonixx, Saturday, 15 September 2007 08:59 (sixteen years ago) link
That's one way of looking at it, the other is that the rest of his albums are so bad ("Lust" is esp. foul) that you'd mad to want to re-release them. Did Conny produce the 1st 4 albums? I thought Rother prod. them himself - in Forst.
― Tom D., Saturday, 15 September 2007 10:44 (sixteen years ago) link
Covers of my copies of Flammende Herzen (in Conny's studio), Sternthaler and Katzenmusik (in both Conny's studio & Forst) say "Produktion Rother/Plank" (FH's cover also says "Toning: C. Plank").
― willem, Sunday, 16 September 2007 07:57 (sixteen years ago) link
i saw those water reissues at a store today. didn't know they were out
― am0n, Sunday, 6 April 2008 01:46 (sixteen years ago) link
katzenmusik is epic
― r1o natsume, Sunday, 6 April 2008 13:23 (sixteen years ago) link
yes.
i mentioned it on another thread, but: michael rother is a good-looking man.
― figuratively, but in a very real way (amateurist), Monday, 16 November 2009 07:05 (fourteen years ago) link
It's true! He was wearing his 59 years lightly in the recent BBC4 Krautrock documentary. "I've always lived near rivers," he said, by way of explanation of the rhythmic flow of Neu!. He then listed a few places he'd lived, including WILMSLOW. Wilmslow!
― Michael Jones, Monday, 16 November 2009 09:18 (fourteen years ago) link
Having seen him live a couple of years ago, very much so! Could've passed for 20 years younger.
Plus whenever I find myself reading some internet gear review which suggests that you have to have an expensive top-of-the-range guitar to be worth a damn, I think about how for some customs reason he hadn't been able to bring his own guitar, and he'd been lent a cheap one by one of the local support acts, and he still had that unmistakeable Michael Rother tone.
― subtyll cauillacyons (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 16 November 2009 10:24 (fourteen years ago) link
sonnenrad from sterntaler, my fave by rother. great guitar sound which always makes me think of liquid gold. an addictive tune with a melancholic undertone and an incredible pull. when i saw him a two years ago with moebius that piece with rother on guitar alone saved the whole evening. which on the whole was rather crap as most of the time they made prefabricated computer music.
http://www.lastfm.de/music/Michael+Rother/_/Sonnenrad?autostart
― alex in mainhattan, Monday, 16 November 2009 13:21 (fourteen years ago) link
haw - I played Sonnenrad on my radio show last week!! !
― sackful of hollow (Curt1s Stephens), Monday, 16 November 2009 13:34 (fourteen years ago) link
Hmmm i need to get Sterntaler. I have Flammende Herzen and fucking love it.
― Durian Durian (Jon Lewis), Monday, 16 November 2009 16:23 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, sterntaler is my fave. I'd rate it close to top-tier harmonia/cluster.
― original bgm, Monday, 16 November 2009 16:50 (fourteen years ago) link
Perfect combination of personalities imo.
― (includes digression on farting) (Tom D.), Thursday, 6 February 2020 16:29 (four years ago) link
The sober ying to Klaus' raging yang
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 6 February 2020 16:37 (four years ago) link
Dude is supporting Einstürzende Neubauten in Denmark in a few months. I've been trying to persuade them to get Rother to join them onstage for a song, because wow, I think that could have a similar sober ying / raging yang dynamic. Blixa seems to like the idea, and he's actually thinking about it?
Like, the Düsseldorf school and the Berlin school colliding in such a pleasing and circle-completing way would make me so happy.
― Branwell with an N, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 07:22 (four years ago) link
Is he still hot af @ 69 yo?
― Good taste, bit Victorian but who isn't? (jed_), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 07:25 (four years ago) link
Blixa or Michael? They are both still hottttt.
― Branwell with an N, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 07:41 (four years ago) link
Michael looks really spry and healthy, like he plays tennis every day. :D
― Branwell with an N, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 07:42 (four years ago) link
Wopp-Wopp, new album Dreaming. Can't find anything about it apart from the pre-order page on Grönland's webshop https://www.groenland.com/product/michael-rother-dreaming-lp/
― willem, Friday, 19 June 2020 10:22 (three years ago) link
aw hell yeah
― scampo, foggy and clegg (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 19 June 2020 10:46 (three years ago) link
Seven disc boxset yall
― Scampidocio (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 15:25 (three years ago) link
That’s all great news!
― michaellambert, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 16:37 (three years ago) link
As if on cue this morning, Spotify Hipster Boyfriend let me know that Michael Rother has a new album out called Dreaming.
The first track starts with a tangle of Cluster-esque electronics and soft NEU!-esque recordings of flowing water, and I am here for this!
― Extractor Fan (Branwell with an N), Friday, 4 September 2020 09:27 (three years ago) link
If my recollection is correct, I believe there is a quote in that BBC documentary about Krautrock from Rother talking about living near a river his life being an influence upon their sound.
― earlnash, Friday, 4 September 2020 10:02 (three years ago) link
Yeah I can see that, music that both forges forward and shimmers when it's doing so.
― Matt DC, Friday, 4 September 2020 10:06 (three years ago) link
Yeah, I think he was talking about the river at Forst, where he records - which I think Roedelius later revealed was actually contaminated with nuclear power plant radiation? But also about the way that Düsseldorf was so centred around the Rhine.
I'm about 2/3 of the way through the album, and it is fantastic BTW. I remember reading an interview a while ago, about the new vocalist he was working with, but I cannot for the life of me remember her name. She does add a lovely intimacy to the record. I'm really digging it - Bitter Tang in particular is quite a good lockdown anthem.
― Extractor Fan (Branwell with an N), Friday, 4 September 2020 10:15 (three years ago) link
Found the clip.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9B8JF8CRoZc
― earlnash, Friday, 4 September 2020 10:15 (three years ago) link
Das ist kein Michael, das ist Ralfi! <3
― Extractor Fan (Branwell with an N), Friday, 4 September 2020 10:22 (three years ago) link
Oh wait, no, there he is, indeed, talking about the flow of rivers.
Also YouTube suggestions, up next:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDEaJgZI6ZQ
(So frustrated, because I had tickets for that show, but was not able to go due to being very ill. Now I've no idea when I'll see him again - the shows with Neubauten have been delayed, too, so ...)
― Extractor Fan (Branwell with an N), Friday, 4 September 2020 10:26 (three years ago) link
This is sounding perfect today: gently propulsive and soothing. Does anyone know who the female vocalist is?
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Friday, 4 September 2020 11:31 (three years ago) link
He did mention her in an interview he did fairly recently, but I can't find it on the thread, which means I'm going to have to dig through Tumblr to locate it... eeep.
― Extractor Fan (Branwell with an N), Friday, 4 September 2020 11:51 (three years ago) link
Ha the algo served this up to me today as well, I assumed it was just something old repackaged as a chunk of the “new music” Spotify recommends is like 60 year old jazz albums and such so it was a pleasant surprise - was very unprepared for the singer lol
― Gab C. Nebsit (wins), Friday, 4 September 2020 11:55 (three years ago) link
https://www.self-titledmag.com/michael-rother-interview/
― willem, Friday, 4 September 2020 12:10 (three years ago) link
Ugh, well the link is there :)
that is the one:
Actually, the story of Dreaming goes back to 1995, ’97, when I met this British singer and cello player…. Sophie Joiner is her name.
― Extractor Fan (Branwell with an N), Friday, 4 September 2020 12:17 (three years ago) link
I was gonna say Michael Rother only has one track - it's a great track of course - but all this talk of a singer has piqued my interest
― A Short Film About Scampoes (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 September 2020 12:25 (three years ago) link
New website:https://www.michaelrother.de/
― snakes & cookies (doo dah), Friday, 4 September 2020 13:43 (three years ago) link
wish he was on Bandcamp! this sounds cool.
― sleeve, Friday, 4 September 2020 14:11 (three years ago) link
man, i want to buy this, but with shipping it comes out to nearly $70. glad it's on spotify, but man that's disappointing.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 4 September 2020 15:23 (three years ago) link
Thanks for posting that recent interview! What a sweet, charming man he is. I didn't realize until late in life just how many things I love have his fingerprints on them.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 4 September 2020 15:57 (three years ago) link
but guys, get this: nothing matters and everyone else is crazy.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 4 September 2020 16:16 (three years ago) link
concerning rivers not sure if it has been mentioned. eno's "by this river" was written when he was with michael rother and cluster in forst in 1974 i guess. the river of the song is the weser which apparently left a deep impression on eno. a great river & hilly countryside (weserbergland) anyways.
― walking towards the sun since 2007 (alex in mainhattan), Saturday, 5 September 2020 20:39 (three years ago) link
This really isn't the album I was expecting, it's got that Rother melodic shimmer but it's also got a very strong Balearic beach vibe, some of the songs are like hearing a distinctive Michael Rother take on 'Flotation' or 'Barefoot In The Head'.
Also the use of space on the first few songs is amazing.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 5 September 2020 21:16 (three years ago) link
a lot of great artists just have "one track"!
― sleeve, Saturday, 5 September 2020 22:09 (three years ago) link
roedelius riffs on “by this river” here and there on at least one of the selbsportait things.. can’t remember specifically
― brimstead, Saturday, 5 September 2020 22:20 (three years ago) link
There are four versions of it – one 14 minutes long – on the Tape Archives release Bureau B put out a few years ago.
― with hidden noise, Saturday, 5 September 2020 23:57 (three years ago) link
Hey hey, now, Michael Rother has at least *three* tracks:
-there's the fast, driving motorik one that feels like flying-there's the soft, ambient, pretty one that feels like floating-there's the slow, stately, majestic but anthemic one with the awesome guitar riff
― Extractor Fan (Branwell with an N), Sunday, 6 September 2020 08:54 (three years ago) link
It was meant as an appreciation! But yeah that's probably fair
― A Short Film About Scampoes (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 September 2020 09:14 (three years ago) link
The new album is really lovely. But vaguely suspicious I'll binge a few more times and then - to pursue the rive metaphor - it'll float on by.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Sunday, 6 September 2020 09:41 (three years ago) link
This watery talk reminds me that there's a River Rother in Sussex (flows down from the Weald past Bodiam Castle and into the sea at Rye). Could do some nice walks along it just listening to Michael
― this is my clean tone (NickB), Sunday, 6 September 2020 10:13 (three years ago) link
Other suggestions for krautrock riverside walks:
Avon DuulAnnexus Cam
― this is my clean tone (NickB), Sunday, 6 September 2020 10:14 (three years ago) link
Don't forget Ash Ra Temepel and Tynegerine Dream.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 6 September 2020 10:23 (three years ago) link
Isi(s)Sowiesosouse
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Sunday, 6 September 2020 10:34 (three years ago) link
Hallogallouse is probably betterer but it's a tough call.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Sunday, 6 September 2020 10:36 (three years ago) link
can confirm Mr Rother was definitely amused when he was driven past the River Rother when he played ATP in camber sands... there may even be a photo of him next to a road sign.
― Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Monday, 7 September 2020 14:29 (three years ago) link
this is awfully pretty. I think I gave up around Fernwarme and now I'm wondering if I missed something.
― frogbs, Monday, 14 September 2020 14:26 (three years ago) link
― willem, Monday, 14 September 2020 16:32 (three years ago) link
I picked up the Solo ll box a week ago, and have listened to pretty much nothing else since. I try not to let reviews affect my personal engagement of music, but they frequently do. Not this time, though.
― henry s, Monday, 14 September 2020 18:30 (three years ago) link
This is very pretty and melodic and everything you expect but texturally it's an absolute marvel, both on speakers and on headphones there's an incredibly tactile element to the production, you can feel every sound.
― Matt DC, Monday, 14 September 2020 19:07 (three years ago) link
I keep coming back to this. There's something about its late 90s post-club comedown feel that's answering a need right now.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Thursday, 24 September 2020 16:53 (three years ago) link
'Hey-Hey' is pure Hebden/Beth Orton.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Thursday, 24 September 2020 16:54 (three years ago) link
_this is awfully pretty. I think I gave up around Fernwarme and now I'm wondering if I missed something._Same here. I made a playlist🕸 of the tracks from _Solo II_that were singled out in the Pitchfork review 🕸and have enjoyed it quite a bit!
― Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 1 December 2020 12:29 (three years ago) link