David Bowie's roundly maligned, nazi cocainey live album, STAGE: Classic or Dud?

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The reissued version is on Spotify.

https://open.spotify.com/album/3WmFXvoEvGcV793mtaTeUc

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 18 January 2016 16:39 (eight years ago) link

Oh, this was plonked into the "Zeit" box set, yeah?

Along with "Heroes", "Low" and "Lodger"

Thought it was OK..

Mark G, Monday, 18 January 2016 16:48 (eight years ago) link

you would

the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Monday, 18 January 2016 16:53 (eight years ago) link

"What in the World" on here blows the studio version out of the water. Those Belew licks!

flappy bird, Monday, 18 January 2016 18:15 (eight years ago) link

the video is awesome too

Karl Malone, Monday, 18 January 2016 18:38 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wpg_7t7rpWE

Karl Malone, Monday, 18 January 2016 18:39 (eight years ago) link

love this little bit here:

http://i.imgur.com/5VdkxxS.gif

Karl Malone, Monday, 18 January 2016 18:49 (eight years ago) link

That looks like Robert Mitchum

banned on ixlor (Jon not Jon), Monday, 18 January 2016 20:05 (eight years ago) link

This is great, despite the entire band's appaling, dgaf dress sense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClDO1_dH0DU

MaresNest, Monday, 18 January 2016 20:41 (eight years ago) link

and my appalling spelling

MaresNest, Monday, 18 January 2016 20:43 (eight years ago) link

Man, Dennis Davis doesn't get enough credit. He navigated Bowie's twists and turns as deftly as any of his collaborators. Like Alomar, Davis embraced whatever Bowie threw at him.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 18 January 2016 21:13 (eight years ago) link

Was thinking the same thing yesterday about George Murray.

Blecchstar Linus Must Comp (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 January 2016 21:19 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, totally. I've read interviews/remembrances this week from Alomar, Eno, Visconti, Rodgers, Belew, Garson...but nothing from the rhythm section of Bowie's (arguably) peak years. I'd love to hear Davis' and Murray's recollections of working on those records.

(and holy crap, just realized that's Davis on "Master Blaster (Jammin')." 1980 was a pretty good year for Davie)

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 18 January 2016 21:30 (eight years ago) link

Totally forgot Roger Powell was in this band.

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 18 January 2016 22:01 (eight years ago) link

That's the violinist? From Hawkwind? The one who looks like Dylan and Scarlett Rivera had a child and he traveled back in time?

Blecchstar Linus Must Comp (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 January 2016 22:03 (eight years ago) link

Came across this video yesterday and was wondering who he was:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1Ch2LUzYfg

Blecchstar Linus Must Comp (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 January 2016 22:06 (eight years ago) link

That's the violinist? From Hawkwind? The one who looks like Dylan and Scarlett Rivera had a child and he traveled back in time?

No I think that's Simon House, who's also on Lodger. Powell is the keyboardist with the shades.

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 18 January 2016 23:08 (eight years ago) link

...who played with Utopia and on various other Rundgren-related things.

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 18 January 2016 23:09 (eight years ago) link

I haven't listened to this in years. A reissue with improved sequencing and no fadeouts sounds great... ten years after the fact, oh well.

a silly gif of awkward larping (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 18 January 2016 23:17 (eight years ago) link

the first disc of this is just stunning, one of the best live albums ever i think

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Monday, 18 January 2016 23:27 (eight years ago) link

yeah, listening this weekend it really struck me as an ambitious thing to do -- to try to bring those weird art rock records to the stadium setting.

tylerw, Monday, 18 January 2016 23:30 (eight years ago) link

I've never particularly liked live albums and the "david live" one was pretty bad but following this thread I have listened to this one and damn the first part (the low/heroes era) is fantastic.
almost all the tracks are better than the studio versions for me (except "heroes" which is good live but the studio version is perfect, so...).
actually, this first part might be my favourite berlin-era album !
the "Station to Station" tracks are good but not as good as the album. Including "Station to Station" itself which is good live but darker and heavier on the album.
I haven't listened to the Ziggy part yet.

anyway, thanks for making me discover this !

AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 19 January 2016 10:42 (eight years ago) link

The BBC Five Years doc has a lot of great contributions from Alomar and Davis.

Poor.Old.Tired.Horse. (Stew), Tuesday, 19 January 2016 11:43 (eight years ago) link

yes, it's great : I have just watched it yesterday !
many things I had never seen and indeed Alomar and Davis are very cool in it (that said the parts from the "Stage" tour are great but I prefer NOT seeing how badly dressed they all were !).
I also really liked the footage of DB with Luther Vandross and band circa YA. There's a moment when DB sings with them (very badly) and I can't help imagining they must have been thinking "who the hell is this guy who's supposed to be a star but who can't sing !?".

AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 19 January 2016 11:52 (eight years ago) link

Just hearing this for the first time. Quite good, although some of the performances are a little too close to the album versions to stand out.

The live version of 'Art Decade' sounds like it was cut from High Llamas' Hawaii!

Professor Bworlph (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 19 January 2016 14:39 (eight years ago) link

Kind of a bummer that he chose to include 'Alabama Song', which might be his only bad song from the '70s.

Professor Bworlph (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 19 January 2016 14:41 (eight years ago) link

Is not bad!

Mark G, Tuesday, 19 January 2016 14:42 (eight years ago) link

Kind of a weird choice, given its strong association with another rock act. But I never listened to, so...

Blecchstar Linus Must Comp (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 19 January 2016 14:42 (eight years ago) link

I never even knew that at the time, I just thought he'd covered an obscure Bertold Brecht tune, etc.

Mark G, Tuesday, 19 January 2016 14:54 (eight years ago) link

In a way, it makes more sense that Bowie covered it than the Doors.
that said, I have never really liked that song and haven't listened to the version on "stage" yet.

AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 19 January 2016 14:59 (eight years ago) link

Totally forgot about the Doors version. It's kind of a not good song regardless of who's performing it. Sorry, Brecht.

Professor Bworlph (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 19 January 2016 15:05 (eight years ago) link

Works much better in the show and/or when sung by Lotte Lenya.

Blecchstar Linus Must Comp (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 19 January 2016 15:12 (eight years ago) link

Art decade could almost be a track from the pet sounds sessions !

AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 19 January 2016 18:01 (eight years ago) link

It's the sleigh bells.

Meat Sheet (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 19 January 2016 18:06 (eight years ago) link

I thought that said 'Schittenfahrt' at first.

Meat Sheet (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 19 January 2016 18:10 (eight years ago) link

*momentary derail* The Young Gods version of Alabama Song is great

MaresNest, Tuesday, 19 January 2016 18:12 (eight years ago) link

Kind of a bummer that he chose to include 'Alabama Song', which might be his only bad song from the '70s.

"Across the Universe" begs to differ.

Just watched the BBC doc as well – it's very good and makes a compelling case for something that Bowie isn't always regarded for: his musicianship. For instance, I thought the same thing about Bowie's singing in the Young Americans sessions scene but the musicians were clearly blown away by Bowie's vision for all the different vocal parts to "Right" like he was Brian Wilson or something. The contributions to that end from Fripp and Eno are excellent as well and largely unique to this documentary.

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 19 January 2016 19:16 (eight years ago) link

just came across this Stage-era promo radio interview - http://ia600405.us.archive.org/7/items/DavidBowieSuperstarRadioNetworkInterview/DavidBowieSuperstarRadioNetworkInterview.mp3?cnt=0

tylerw, Tuesday, 19 January 2016 19:36 (eight years ago) link

It's more than the sleighbells. All the instruments and arrangements are very wilson/pet sounds!

AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 19 January 2016 19:43 (eight years ago) link

I finally listened to the Ziggy part. it's ok. "Soul Love" is quite fun although a bit silly.
Overall, a surprisingly good live album with a brilliant berlin era part (and one dud : "Alabama Song").
like many other tracks, "Beauty and the Beast" has a little something more than the studio version. more punch and fun.
It was never a favourite on the album but I really like that version.

AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 20 January 2016 10:06 (eight years ago) link

“Anyone who’s playing ‘Beauty And The Beast’... You know they get erections.”
- R. Fripp

niels, Wednesday, 20 January 2016 12:20 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, the studio"Beauty and the Beast" may we'll have been the track that started it all for me. The introduction of Fripp's Sky Saw guitar is just so unbelievably alien, followed by the pounding piano and rhythm section building to a crescendo before the verse comes crashing in is an all-time moment for me.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 20 January 2016 18:33 (eight years ago) link

In other words, what Fripp said.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 20 January 2016 18:33 (eight years ago) link

"Are you listening to "Beauty and the Beast" or are you just glad to see me?"

willem, Wednesday, 20 January 2016 18:42 (eight years ago) link

"Oh! Oh!"

banned on ixlor (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 20:10 (eight years ago) link

having had the ryko cd for so long, all those 'rock' tracks on heroes have always sounded kind of messy and tinny and weird to me.

akm, Thursday, 21 January 2016 20:04 (eight years ago) link

This was my 1st Bowie album.

WilliamC, Thursday, 21 January 2016 20:30 (eight years ago) link

xp really think the 2000s reissue/remix/rework is an improvement over all earlier versions

tylerw, Thursday, 21 January 2016 20:32 (eight years ago) link

Is this album called STAGE because of the Elvis album ON STAGE?

Starman Jones said it's 2 legit 2 quit (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 22 January 2016 00:24 (eight years ago) link


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