Should I spent $100 I don't have on the Goodbye Babylon box set?

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Please let me know. The packaging alone looks incredible...

mike a, Monday, 29 March 2004 16:17 (twenty years ago) link

YES YOU SHOULD.

(ahem)

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Monday, 29 March 2004 16:37 (twenty years ago) link

oh yes oh yes oh yes. besides you don't want God to get mad at you?

jack cole (jackcole), Monday, 29 March 2004 16:43 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, but I'm Jewish and most, if not all, of the CD content is Christian. Won't God therefore get madder at me if I do buy it?

mike a, Monday, 29 March 2004 17:26 (twenty years ago) link

You could buy it and then give it to me.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 29 March 2004 17:31 (twenty years ago) link

Are there any good single-disc comps of this type of stuff out there? I'd prefer to test the waters before diving in head-first.

o. nate (onate), Monday, 29 March 2004 17:34 (twenty years ago) link

Exactly...I am dying to hear this comp, but just can't spare the three digits at present.

mike a, Monday, 29 March 2004 17:48 (twenty years ago) link

o.nate, Rounder records has many EXCELLENT single disc comps as part of their Allan Lomax Collection. Try one of the Southern White Spiritual volumes, they are great.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 29 March 2004 17:48 (twenty years ago) link

If you've heard the Harry Smith Anthology it sounds pretty much like that. Except all the lyrics are about Jesus. And it is surely worth the money if you've got it.

Not That Chuck, Monday, 29 March 2004 17:54 (twenty years ago) link

Thanks for the recommend, Scott. That's just the sort of thing I had in mind.

o. nate (onate), Monday, 29 March 2004 18:04 (twenty years ago) link

Revenant's Raw Pre-War Gospel comp is the bellwether for the box--same idea, some of the same cuts, only the box is WAY more wide-ranging and great. seriously, there isn't a bad track on the box, and quite a lot of great ones.

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Monday, 29 March 2004 18:35 (twenty years ago) link

the one with the wood-chopping @ the prison in the background is chilling

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 29 March 2004 18:37 (twenty years ago) link

the sixth disc, all sermons, is really astonishing--some of the chanting (call-and-response) is every bit as musical as the melodies on the first five discs. and strongo OTM

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Monday, 29 March 2004 18:51 (twenty years ago) link

Yes, you absolutely should buy it.

the packaging IS lovely and a great deal of the music is astonishing & matos is OTM about the sermons disc too.

without this i would never have heard of washington phillips... an artist i am now desperate to hear everything by.

officer pupp, Tuesday, 30 March 2004 13:23 (twenty years ago) link

I hate you lot, this is the second time you've done it to me. I had to buy the Round The Town Music Hall collection after my attention got drawn to it, and I now need to order this when I get back from my holidays. Although if I order it this week it might be there when I get back...

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 14:36 (twenty years ago) link

one year passes...
Also of possible interest - JSP Records (the label that does those cheap 4 or 5-disc sets) has a box out last fall called "Spreading The Word". Four discs, 104 tracks, under $30.

It has some overlap with this box, but not entirely. It does have all 16 Washington Phillips tracks. However, there is just now a new remaster of his material from Yazoo entitled "The Key To The Kingdom". That's a nice disc, and the guy who did the liner notes for the previous release took the opportunity to correct all the facts that he got wrong last time ("I Am Born To Preach The Gospel").

Edward Bax (EdBax), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 18:54 (nineteen years ago) link

And I should also take the opportunity to jump on the "Goodbye Babylon" bandwagon. This set is well curated and very well packaged. Fantastic.

Edward Bax (EdBax), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 18:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Those who want a taste of WHY THEY SHOULD TOTALLY SPEND THE MONEY ON THIS might want to go to the URL of the label and append /mp3s/ to the end of it.

Douglas (Douglas), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 19:20 (nineteen years ago) link

i still think you can get much of the same music for much cheaper elsewhere.

jsp recently put out two box sets of prewar gospel and gospel-blues for about $25 each.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 19:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Sure, one of those is probably the one I mentioned a few posts above you.

As far as I know, neither JSP set contains the sermons, though.

And, of course, JSP doesn't package their discs with raw cotton.

Edward Bax (EdBax), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 19:33 (nineteen years ago) link

The sermons disc is the raison d'etre. Mesmerizing.

The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 19:34 (nineteen years ago) link

you guys need to cool out

David Allen (David Allen), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 19:44 (nineteen years ago) link

sorry hadn't seen your earlier post.

the sermons are compelling & fascinating.

a whole cd of gates sermons came out on columbia (!!) last year. though he was the most popular of the preachers-on-record, he wasn't the best or most interesting by any means.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 19:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Ooh, thanks for the tip on the Gates disc. Gotta track that down.

Edward Bax (EdBax), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 19:55 (nineteen years ago) link

THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I NEED A RESEARCH BUDGET--I actually require this for the book i am writing (plus an essay i am in the middle of comparing some of this material to qwalli), and i cannot afford it by any stretch of the imgination. (actually jes or matos, if you have it--can you burn it for me ?)

anthony, Wednesday, 30 March 2005 19:55 (nineteen years ago) link

i don't think you REQUIRE it; you can get a lot of this stuff more cheaply, even including some of the sermons if you check out the document records catalogue.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 20:38 (nineteen years ago) link

except Document's CDs sound like shit and GB doesn't

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 20:40 (nineteen years ago) link

is JSP, the same as http://www.propermusic.com/ ??

a few months ago i got the "Good News: 100 Gospel Greats" 4cd boxset for 20$. i was kinda bummed because almost all of it was acapella small groups Jubilee type shit (kinda like the Golden Gate Jubilee Quartet). i liked it, but 4cds was kinda much.

i also got the bluegrass box from them. pretty cool little lable.

The JaXoN 5 (JasonD), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 20:48 (nineteen years ago) link

JSP is not the same is Proper (that I know of), but the box sets of old out-of-copyright material are very similar.
JSP has the Jimmie Rodgers box, two Carter Family boxes, etc.

Edward Bax (EdBax), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 22:01 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah, JSP does five-disc boxes while Proper does four. very different artwork, too. I love Proper's art and haven't really dove into the JSP stuff yet, though some of it's mouthwatering.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 22:05 (nineteen years ago) link

not all the material is actually out of copyright, a lot of that stuff is essentially bootlegged. but i'm not complaining.

jsp has better sound quality than proper, all told. and jsp tends to release "complete" collections and proper releases more survey-style stuff. although that's changing in the former case. jsp just released a hawaiian music box set, i need to pick that up.

jsp does four-cd boxes too! in fact most of their boxes are 4 cds. but yeah some of them are 5.

the jsp bluegrass box is great. the proper one is ok but has the most atrocious graphic design ever. proper's design is hit and miss. jsp's is always kind of the same, which is to say tolerable enough.

not all of document sounds like that; it doesn't matter so much for a sermon, anyhow. (as long as you can make out the words!)

but yeah, i'm not stopping anyone from buying this, i just have a strong reaction against stuff that's so lavishly packaged and priced accordingly. i'd rather just have the music and not the wooden box that won't fit on my shelf and the cotton etc. seems rather silly. and yes, i hate fun.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 22:11 (nineteen years ago) link

it probably comes from the same part of me that vaguely objects to people loading dvds with "bonus material" (especially--ugh--commentaries). i like it when it's just the movie, or in t his case just the music. there's something appealing to me about that.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 22:13 (nineteen years ago) link

three years pass...

http://eldiablotuntun.blogspot.com/search?q=Goodbye+Babylon

Jazzbo, Thursday, 29 May 2008 15:46 (fifteen years ago) link

did anyone see the article in the nyer abt the dude who put this together?

t_g, Friday, 30 May 2008 10:34 (fifteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...

Is there a more general Dust-to-Digital thread? I can't see one...

New release, "Take Me To The Water: Immersion Baptism In Vintage Music", looks as unavoidably tempting as ever.

krakow, Friday, 15 May 2009 22:30 (fourteen years ago) link

oh really? sounds great.

Matos W.K., Saturday, 16 May 2009 00:16 (fourteen years ago) link

six months pass...

anyone heard any of these?

high-five machine (schlump), Monday, 14 December 2009 17:28 (fourteen years ago) link

actually may just be one single non-dtd release of the earliest recording of the human voice.

high-five machine (schlump), Monday, 14 December 2009 17:30 (fourteen years ago) link

five years pass...

disc 1 of this is really great. WOW at "Lift Him Up That's All" by Washington Phillips.

Poliopolice, Friday, 30 January 2015 05:41 (nine years ago) link


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