taking sides: Tim Hardin Vs. Tim Buckley vs. Tim Rose

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=UIDSUB040406032035292155&sql=R1998#SONGSAPPEAR

tim himself seems to have been a shit. there are all the stories, the strange fantastical self-aggrandizement ("ray charles told me i was the best singer in the world"), and not one but TWO songs about how his woman better put out: "don't make promises," "you upset the grace of living when you lie." (i guess he heard dylan's "first time around" and "if you gotta go, go now" and decided he could do, er, "better.")

tim hardin

i still am yet to "get" tim buckley. too much vibrato for my ear

don't know tim rose's material but i like l. hazlewood's morning dew. a lot

tim buckley, who i like in many ways, feels like a younger me. the me that bought dream letter when it came out and who had his mind blown. but tim hardin definitely feels like me now and probably the me in the future too. i can see growing old with his voice. buckley makes me reflect on my not-so-perfect past and the inevitable paths not taken (thank god).

This is the only Tim Hardin thread. Sigh.

That is shocking! Good thread tho, I like scott's last post.

Ahhh yes, the Tim Rose Circus. Remember those days? Everybody eating glass and drinking bile and dangling things from their things.

wow, funny that this got bumped - have listened to "Tim Hardin 1" something like 3-4 times in the past couple of days. gotta love the laid back vibe on this... not to mention the laid back vibes

Hardin's "Bird On A Wire", which I listened to for the first time recently during an L.C. spree, and *got* for the first time just now, is for sure a work of demented genius?

his "woman standing in a darkened door" is achingly beautiful

I just listened to the Judy Collins version, & it was in one ear/out the other ... God help me but I think Tim now owns that tune!
I'm less crazy about the lyrical changes, but most of the song still works, when I can manage to bracket the question of 'creative misreading' & just hear the words Tim sings at face value -- but this is exactly what the 4th verse of the original, which he doesn't sing, addresses! And by skipping that, even if he completely sells the first 3 verses, I feel like he loses some of the original's 'poetry'(?? balanced structure, measured payoff, just proportion, ultimate equilibrium)

... still, it's a helluva vocal! there's no way he's that dialed-in for the entire Bird on a Wire album... is there??

In conclusion: I would like to nominate Jim Croce for honorary inclusion in the Singer-Songwriter Hall of Tims, & possibly begin proceedings for to have Tim Hardin expelled therefrom

... once more unto ILM's lone Tim Hardin thread, this time to geek out about a cover that perfectly fits my current mood of... 'nostalgic sensuality'? 'romantic tumescence'?? 'summertime sadness'??? idk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOQ9e-1zctk

In late November 1975 Hardin performed as guest lead vocalist with the German experimental rock band Can, for two UK concerts at Hatfield Polytechnic in Hertfordshire and London's Drury Lane Theatre. According to author Rob Young, a huge argument between Hardin and Can occurred after the London concert, during which Hardin threw a television set through a car's windscreen.

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wiki source is the new can book ... really need to track down a copy of that

There's a bootleg of the Hatfield Poly gig, I'm sure I've got it somewhere.

is it the "canobits" 4xCD ?

https://www.discogs.com/Can-Canobits-Rare-Studio-Live-Material/release/13275136

some further info on hardin / can:

http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=1733

yeah tim hardin's stuff with can is... not good. it was this period where they were looking for a new vocalist... there's also that month where their vocalist was michael cousins, who was previously best known for being thrown off the stage at hawkwind concerts for sucking too hard. (against all odds he went on to do a pretty good single with members of the damned...)

And some guy from Thailand iirc.

Suite For Susan Moore is maybe the peak of the sad man in him room genre.

Some of that intimacy must be because it was recorded in Tim Hardin's house.
I did a guest show on a local college radio station where this was one of the vinyl records I located in their library. I played "Everything Good Became More True" but haven't heard the whole record.