new libertines album ?

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Does anybody know if this is the tracklisting to their coming album ?
If it is, is the version available on slsk the final one ?
because I find the production rather... thin (roughly, these are demos, to me)and the songs... I find they aren't very good...well, I've only listenned to it once, though..

― AleXTC (AleXTC), Thursday, 22 July 2004 11:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh, and sorry if this subject has been discussed before.. I've checked but couldn't find the thread.

― AleXTC (AleXTC), Thursday, 22 July 2004 11:44 (nineteen years ago) link

That's the tracklisting. The album is shite

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 22 July 2004 11:48 (nineteen years ago) link

hum... too bad then... what has mick jones done !
I guess Peter's shape hasn't helped much...

― AleXTC (AleXTC), Thursday, 22 July 2004 11:58 (nineteen years ago) link

i DLd the album but am holding off from hearing it til it comes out when i wil buy it like other 'normal' (or PC-phobic at least) punters.

― thesplooge (thesplooge), Thursday, 22 July 2004 13:05 (nineteen years ago) link

it's not THAT bad, but it pales in comparison to Up the Bracket, true.

― Josh Love (screamapillar), Thursday, 22 July 2004 13:36 (nineteen years ago) link

even my girlfriend, who is OBSESSED with the libertines, acknowledges this.

― Josh Love (screamapillar), Thursday, 22 July 2004 13:36 (nineteen years ago) link

this thread makes me sad. i was hoping the new album would be amazing.

― thesplooge (thesplooge), Thursday, 22 July 2004 13:43 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah, me too. that's why i was kinda disappointed when i listened to it yesterday... and yeah, my girlfriend too loves them and found it was pretty bad... we were kinda hoping it wasn't "it"...

― AleXTC (AleXTC), Thursday, 22 July 2004 13:45 (nineteen years ago) link

the general consensus from everyone is that this isnt what it should be which puts a damper on my fandom. never mind. the complaint ive heard the most is that the songs theyve been playing for a while before hitting the studio were better live.

im still gonna wait until the end of august to hear it. fingers crossed they get it right on the 3rd album. then again, suposedly, theve recorded enough material for ten albums before this album anyway (most of which is apparently better).

― thesplooge (thesplooge), Thursday, 22 July 2004 13:51 (nineteen years ago) link

Look, I'm about right at the other end of the spectrum to a "Libertines fan", but I'll cheerfully admit they had a few great tunes early on. Not here. Lazy complacent autopilot, no danger, nothing. Fuck 'em.

I gave my review copy to someone else who reviewed it and compared them to Sublime. This is possibly the oddest thing I have ever heardm and needless to say isn't true

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 22 July 2004 14:01 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...

The man who would be king is fantastic. I can see it as a album which gets slated at first then slwoly grows into an..um.. grower.

― shaun kinski, Sunday, 22 August 2004 13:20 (nineteen years ago) link

its grown on me. it does have more than a few unfinished demos and things like that, but theres a lot of really brilliant moments on it. and the songs are generally really good/hooky.

― dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Monday, 23 August 2004 09:46 (nineteen years ago) link

well, i've discussed the "grower" effect of it with a friend of mine who didn't think it was that bad and thought the album would get better after a while : after a few weeks i have to say i keep thinking it's roughly a demo more than a proper album. although a few songs could be good. it's ok to listen to every now and then but not the follow up to up the bracket one would have expected...
i mean, they couldn't even find one very good song for the first single (can't stand me now would have been a good b-side...).

― AleXTC (AleXTC), Monday, 23 August 2004 10:04 (nineteen years ago) link

it isnt a proper follow up, no. more a case of 'what could have been....'

― dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Monday, 23 August 2004 10:09 (nineteen years ago) link

it's like listening to the bootleg to the sessions of a lost second album never released (because not good enough !).

― AleXTC (AleXTC), Monday, 23 August 2004 10:10 (nineteen years ago) link

i dont know if its just me but several songs sounded like they had instruments and changes overdubbed at the end (phil spector/let it be style). like the schmaltzy bells and whatever at the end of what katie did which makes it into a showtune, or the far-eastern touches on another song. theres a lot of great stuff here though that could have done with some fleshing out, which is generally alright for me (so far), but who knows what it might have been if they completed it properly. im just surprised not ONE review ive read of the album has actually commented on the demo/unfinished status of the LP.

― dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Monday, 23 August 2004 10:19 (nineteen years ago) link

i haven't read any reviews of it yet : where has it been reviewed ?
what's the word,then ?

― AleXTC (AleXTC), Monday, 23 August 2004 10:23 (nineteen years ago) link

you must be in the states! it's reviewed everywhere in the UK. pete doherty has been interviewed in virtually all the papers over the last month or so, uncut magazine gave it 5/5, which is ridiculous to me, Q gave it 4/5, NME - 9/10, etc etc. metro newspaper gave it 4/5 today. its unanimous praise. i think only esquire gave it less, they rated it 2/5.

― dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Monday, 23 August 2004 10:27 (nineteen years ago) link

one thing i will say about the new album, the libertines have tried out a lot of different things across the songs. theres a lot of unexpected flourishes, touches, changes, etc, that took me by surprise.

― dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Monday, 23 August 2004 10:33 (nineteen years ago) link

really, that rave reviews ??
there must be some new desease in britain that affects only music journalists ! (by the way, i'm not in the US but in france... faraway, so close, or the other way !)

― AleXTC (AleXTC), Monday, 23 August 2004 10:39 (nineteen years ago) link

we do seem to have a lot of journalists that think theyre working in PR, that is true. if youre in france, youll probably be able to see the libertines live soon, i think theyre touring in europe....

― dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Monday, 23 August 2004 10:42 (nineteen years ago) link

well, i have seen them 3 times : first time around the time they released their 1st album, in paris. great gig full of energy. second time, again in paris, that was the first gig pete missed before all the fuss (prison etc). boring indie band. last time, in brixton, with pete (in march). ok gig but not particularly excited. the crowd was crazy though.
so i don't really look forwad to see them... pete hasn't been reintegrated yet, has he ?

― AleXTC (AleXTC), Monday, 23 August 2004 10:52 (nineteen years ago) link

drownedinsound.com reviewed the new record, and said it sounded like crap demos.

― bill stevens (bscrubbins), Monday, 23 August 2004 16:00 (nineteen years ago) link

just read both of DIS' reviews, both were better than the shite in most of the mags ive read. i find myself agreeing with the 2/5 review, although he could have been a little bit aware of the man who would be king as being great, and the fact that the band were genuinely trying out some new stuff (musically) on this album. but yeah, i find myself wondering what on earth mick jones does as a producer. i never thought his production on the 1st album was up to much either, it needs more power, the drums could do with some beefing up too. in a way, it gives the group some charm, but on the other hand, it just sounds amateur. bernard butler made them sound more 'finished', but with that, they tended to sound more like any other indie band sonically.

― dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Monday, 23 August 2004 20:18 (nineteen years ago) link

i dont even em that much but if anything (ta da!) what ive heard of this is way too polished, the more demo the better with this lot

― prima fassy (mwah), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 08:50 (nineteen years ago) link

in a way, it makes a change to hear a so-called major release sound like demos.

― dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 10:33 (nineteen years ago) link

as for butler's production, my fav libs track might be what a waster (but on the other way i don't understand why don't look back was such a hit in england...).
and as for the good thing about a major release sounding like demos, i would agree if the songwriting was better.

― AleXTC (AleXTC), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 10:43 (nineteen years ago) link

ILX are pretty nonplussed on the libertines as a whole...

― dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 10:51 (nineteen years ago) link

nonplussed ?(french here, remember !)

― AleXTC (AleXTC), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 11:10 (nineteen years ago) link

nonplussed=not impressed!

― dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 11:14 (nineteen years ago) link

i'd say ILX despise the libertines as an incarnation of the whole NME "best new band in britain" thing.
which i can understand but don't totally agree with. for me it's a bit like hating a band just because it's too trendy/famous or something.
that said, most of the "NME bands" are awful to me !
(the complexity of human beings...)

― AleXTC (AleXTC), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 11:31 (nineteen years ago) link

Pete en Carl are both lead vocalists, right? How does one tell one from the other? i.e. who sings what?

― JoB (JoB), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Pete is the one who sounds as if he is about to die. I am not being facetious here.

― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Monday, 30 August 2004 18:51 (nineteen years ago) link

is he the one with the short hair who looks like a vampire or the one who's creatively cultivating the Keith Richards look?

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:06 (nineteen years ago) link

yes, pete is the one who sounds like he might start wheezing any moment (especially on the new album) and doesnt seem to have the lung capacity to sing many of his lines at full volume.

carl sings lead on i get along, pete sings lead on time for heroes.

pete is the formerly boyish looking one who is now the more commonly pallid and dazed one, roger. carl has the long hair.

― dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:07 (nineteen years ago) link

pete is the one with only half a brain cell

― Krankenhaus, Monday, 30 August 2004 19:14 (nineteen years ago) link

but more than half a gram.

― dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:16 (nineteen years ago) link

right on.

i like the new album. I'm a sucker for self-destructive batshit belligerent Brit rock, i guess, from Mary Chain > Oasis and beyond

it's a total tourism trip for me. No matter what I do, I can't fathom a life of that kind of hedonism, and with the British press just adding to the spectacle by treating every good band like J-Lo and every music fan like a teenybopper who might actually care what Brett Anderson's favorite color M&M is, well, to me, it's total escapism / entertainment

good songs too

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:17 (nineteen years ago) link

I love the b-sides to the Can't Stand Me Now single... they have 'em at iTunes. Cyclops is all dubby and fun and Dilly Boys is a catchy nugget.

― Softly Weeping at the Oki Dog (Ben Boyer), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:38 (nineteen years ago) link

the lyrics to cant stand me now tell a story really well i think.

― dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:41 (nineteen years ago) link

ten years pass...

I'll never understand the appeal of this band, but for those that give a shit it would seem like The Libertines are working on a new album in Thailand.

― You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 17:55 (nine years ago) link

five months pass...

Full tracklisting for Anthem for Doomed Youth:
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1. Barbarians
2. Gunga Din
3. Fame and Fortune
4. Anthem for Doomed Youth
5. Heart of the Matter
6. Belly of the Beast
7. Iceman
8. You’re My Waterloo
9. Fury of Chonburi
10. The Milkman’s Horse
11. Glasgow Coma Scale Blues
12. Dead For Love

Deluxe edition bonus tracks
13. Love on the Dole
14. Bucket Shop
15. Lust of the Libertines
16. 7 Deadly Sins

― Mark G, Thursday, 2 July 2015 11:32 (eight years ago) link

The Milkman's Horse

― A swarm of antipathy (Re-Make/Re-Model), Thursday, 2 July 2015 11:47 (eight years ago) link

two months pass...

so slow. the midtempo mac demarco jangle doesn't cut it

― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 10 September 2015 03:07 (eight years ago) link

eight years pass...

Just heard a track from the new one. It's . . . not bad?

― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 21 November 2023 21:23 (four months ago) link

is it about being an accessory to murder?

― Tyler Perry's Cystitis (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 21 November 2023 23:29 (four months ago) link

Well, it is called "Run, Run, Run," so perhaps?

― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 21 November 2023 23:32 (four months ago) link

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