Remove one song from an almost perfect album to make it a perfect album

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Yep, like that one.

It's mainly because I got the cassette box thing in Oxfam, and I played it in the car.

The original cassette I bought back in the day had "Blue Monday" and "The Beach" ending each side, and that's also good.

Mark G, Tuesday, 23 August 2016 15:41 (seven years ago) link

Lady Grinning Soul from Aladdin Sane

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 23 August 2016 16:10 (seven years ago) link

Youd have to leave out a lot more to make that a perfect record imo

niels, Tuesday, 23 August 2016 16:53 (seven years ago) link

nope

brimstead, Tuesday, 23 August 2016 18:54 (seven years ago) link

(to both posts)

brimstead, Tuesday, 23 August 2016 18:55 (seven years ago) link

has no one else here thought the same about "we all stand"? i have nothing against it, it just feels awkwardly shoved in there between the faster tempo jams. and "leave me alone" really sounds like a penultimate song to me for some reason.. don't know why or how. swap "ultraviolence" with "your silent face" also, the latter is so powerful as a side-opener and the resulting first side becomes all uptempo etc.

brimstead, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 01:47 (seven years ago) link

Michael Jackson's Thriller - take out the ghastly "The Girl is Mine"

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 01:51 (seven years ago) link

has no one else here thought the same about "we all stand"? i have nothing against it, it just feels awkwardly shoved in there between the faster tempo jams. and "leave me alone" really sounds like a penultimate song to me for some reason.. don't know why or how. swap "ultraviolence" with "your silent face" also, the latter is so powerful as a side-opener and the resulting first side becomes all uptempo etc.

When I discovered the album in high school, it was the most mysterious track -- it's a koan or poem set to music. That eerie synth flute playing along with the "Life goes on" eventually hooked me. I hear it as an experiment to which they never returned but is most welcome.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 August 2016 01:55 (seven years ago) link

Pixies - Silver from Doolittle
Erasure - Sixty-five Thousand from The Innocents
My Morning Jacket - Into The Woods from Z
Haim - My Song 5 from Days Are Gone
Elastica - Indian Song from Elastica
Goldfrapp - Oompa Radar from Felt Mountain
The Divine Comedy - Freedom Road from Absent Friends
Charli XCX - Hanging Around from Sucker

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 02:15 (seven years ago) link

love Oompa Radar and can't imagine Felt Mountain without it, best ever 60s film soundtrack pastiche

soref, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 02:26 (seven years ago) link

I always thought it was just a bit too silly and kind of ruined the mood of the album.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 02:43 (seven years ago) link

I guess I can see that - but the whole album is walking on a knife-edge of overly-mannered silliness, I think the fact that it just embraces it on Oompa Radar adds to the overall effect, also keeps things from getting boringly tasteful.

soref, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 02:54 (seven years ago) link

To make Aladdin Sane perfect
- Remove Let's Spend...
- Remove or go back in time and re-write/re-record "Panic in Detroit" (better vocals, and make the main riff not sound like some babyish preschool nursery)
- KEEP IN Lady Grinning Soul (seriously wtf?)

punksishippies, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 03:00 (seven years ago) link

nursery rhyme*

punksishippies, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 03:01 (seven years ago) link

You can make it an almost perfect 7" EP by putting Drive-In Saturday and Aladdin Sane on the A-side, The Jean Genie and Lady Grinning Soul on the B-side

it's got a great cover, but it's not a great album

niels, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 08:34 (seven years ago) link

Remove "Cat Food" from In The Wake of Poseidon.

heaven parker (anagram), Wednesday, 24 August 2016 08:39 (seven years ago) link

"Time" and "Cracked Actor" (that guitar sound!) are actually my favorites off the album. I think maybe the mark of a great album is that everybody disagrees about what the best stuff is on it.
Anyway, it's maybe the first time glam really entered creep-out territory where the decadence is mean-spirited rather than kitschy (proto-Marilyn Manson, except not shitty), which is something "significant" in my book

punksishippies, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 08:49 (seven years ago) link

Feel "Time" is kinda overwritten and never liked the chorus of "Cracked Actor" much, sorta clumsy lyrics? But yeah, nothing wrong with a divisive album

niels, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 09:03 (seven years ago) link

xxp I like Cat Food, but it is a bit of an outlier. Remove it and you'd basically be listening to In The Court part II

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Wednesday, 24 August 2016 09:29 (seven years ago) link

remove "Lyrical Gangbang"

almost wanna say remove "She's Bought A Hat Like Princess Marina" from Arthur but the album really doesn't work as well without it! Who'da thunk it

Wimmels, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 11:28 (seven years ago) link

... also it's great.

Aw naw, no' Annoni oan an' aw noo (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 August 2016 11:50 (seven years ago) link

See, what looks like filler is actually "light relief"

Mark G, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 14:17 (seven years ago) link

Remove "Hippy Boy" from The Gilded Palace of Sin. I've listened to that album around a hundred times; I've heard "Hippy Boy" maybe twice.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 24 August 2016 14:23 (seven years ago) link

OTM removing "Lady with the Grinning Soul" would be criminal !
The only song I hate on Aladdin Sane is "let's spend the night". Awful.

Feel "Time" is kinda overwritten

What do you mean ? lyrically ?

AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 14:31 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, lyrics don't do much for me - a bit pretentious, lack humor, that wanking line always annoyed me - but mostly the composition and scope of the song always seemed to me - wrongly, perhaps - a failed attempt at repeating or outdoing what was so effortlessly achieved w Life on Mars

niels, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 15:09 (seven years ago) link

hum. OK. Well, his lyrics were often kinda pretentious and humorless in these days, weren't they ? (the whole Burroughs, cut-up approach...).
I like "Time" a lot although it's not a favourite. To me it's more a 20s cabaret/Kurt Weill hommage than a remake of Life on Mars.
It's darker and more decadent so the lyrics fit pretty well.

AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 15:26 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, I like the Brecht/Weill mood opening - but where's the storytelling?

Is Time meant to be a personification if so what's up with "Time – he flexes like a whore / Falls wanking to the floor" apart from empty provocation?

"We should be on by now" is a good line, also nice melodically, but the "La la" melody is Bowie trying to be awful clever as I hear it

But no more hating from me

niels, Thursday, 25 August 2016 09:33 (seven years ago) link

While it does groove, i could do without...

"Hyperactive" from Thomas Dolby's The Flat Earth

bodacious ignoramus, Thursday, 25 August 2016 17:32 (seven years ago) link

This idea for the Flat Earth is really intriguing.

campreverb, Thursday, 25 August 2016 21:10 (seven years ago) link

the recording or the theory? ;)

bodacious ignoramus, Thursday, 25 August 2016 23:10 (seven years ago) link

I wonder what of ppl listening to Paul McCartney's Tug of War bother with "Ebony and Ivory", and what % just turn it off at the end of "Dress Me Up As A Robber"? I'm not sure that Tug of War would quite make a *perfect* album even without "Ebony and Ivory", but I'd certainly put it in the category of "albums that are really good the whole way through and then have an incredibly bathetic final track"

soref, Thursday, 25 August 2016 23:20 (seven years ago) link

Remove "Goin' Home" from Aftermath.

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Friday, 26 August 2016 02:28 (seven years ago) link

the theory. I re-listened to 'The Flat Earth' though and concluded that removing 'Hyperactive' would make it more internally consistent.

campreverb, Friday, 26 August 2016 04:53 (seven years ago) link

regarding "Ebony and Ivory" I've never hated that song (the melody is nice) but totally understand why people would hate it (the production, arrangements..., among other things !).
the demo version is pretty sweet. very simple. a kind of lullaby.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dioouGXLiRg

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 26 August 2016 09:37 (seven years ago) link

Tug Of War is a remarkably strong and overlooked album, but I'd be tempted to take off 'Ballroom Dancing' too. The other Wonder collab on that album is a slammer!

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Friday, 26 August 2016 11:03 (seven years ago) link

There are no perfect albums. They're all flawed in some way.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Friday, 26 August 2016 11:04 (seven years ago) link

you're flawed in some way

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Friday, 26 August 2016 11:52 (seven years ago) link

As is everyone, including you. Well observed, by the way. Gold star.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Friday, 26 August 2016 12:02 (seven years ago) link

But, y'know, to be fair, I've never once thought that XTC were an "'80s synthpop band", so clearly the ability to listen and comprehend what I'm hearing isn't one of those flaws.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Friday, 26 August 2016 12:10 (seven years ago) link

I like the "Ebony and Ivory" demo as well, that version would have fitted nicely on McCartney II. I think the song would be a lot more tolerable as one of McCartney's non-specific "why can't we all get along" neurotically-anxious-under-the-surface lullabies, rather than awkwardly trying to make it "about" racism.

soref, Friday, 26 August 2016 19:13 (seven years ago) link

I always stop Help! before "Dizzy Miss Lizzy". Feels tacked on.

sofatruck, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 15:42 (seven years ago) link

I always skip "Something Big" on Jim O'Rourke's Eureka. Those fucking singers and that chorus... I mean, I know there's gotta be some intertextual reason for having the Hawaiian chorus in there, just like the over the top SNL sax on "Through the Night Softly," but when that "THERE'LL BE JOY AND THERE'LL BE PLEASURE" warble comes on I abandon ship.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 21:01 (seven years ago) link

Surprised the removal of "Nothing Like You" from Miles' Sorcerer hasn't come up yet.

― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, August 16, 2016 10:03 AM (three weeks ago)

Haha, just discovered this album and did a search to see if this was mentioned

Josefa, Thursday, 8 September 2016 07:17 (seven years ago) link

I'd suggest removing "It Ain't No Use" from The Meters' Rejuvenation... It's not a bad tune per se, but a sprawling 12 minute hippie rock jam on an album full of tight incredibly funk numbers (the second longest tune is less than half the length of "It Ain't No Use") feels wrong.

Tuomas, Thursday, 8 September 2016 09:48 (seven years ago) link

Also, remove "Purple Rain" from Purple Rain. The rest of the album is filled with energetic pop-funk numbers and idiosyncratic slower jams ("The Beautiful Ones"!) exploring Prince's psychosexual tics in ways rarely heard in mainstream pop. And then it ends with a pointlessly stretched-out, run-of-the-mill hair metal power ballad with lyrics that'd make Bom Jovi proud.

Tuomas, Thursday, 8 September 2016 09:54 (seven years ago) link

I like "Purple Rain" but I agree it's the least interesting song on the album.
Also I have never liked "Let's go crazy" much...
The album would be better with "Sex Shooter" and "Jungle Love" instead !

AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 8 September 2016 10:12 (seven years ago) link

And "Erotic City"!

"Let's Go Crazy" works better as the 12" extended mix, and "I Would Die 4 U" even moreso. In fact, the 10 minute version of the latter is clearly the best single from the album.

Tuomas, Thursday, 8 September 2016 10:32 (seven years ago) link

is there an equivalent thread where you add one song to a classic album to make it better ?

AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 8 September 2016 11:36 (seven years ago) link

cos PR with "Erotic City" would be great indeed !

AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 8 September 2016 11:43 (seven years ago) link

yall are INSANE

MatthewK, Thursday, 8 September 2016 12:09 (seven years ago) link


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