Pop Tatari - Best Punk Record of the 90's?!?

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Preemptive "Fuck Refused".

― sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Sunday, 10 October 2004 19:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Refused are sooooooo 2001. Seriously.

i think Lord Of The Ring Modulators is more punk. (Originally released in teh nineties, I am fairly certain.)

― Helios Creed (orion), Sunday, 10 October 2004 19:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Never got into Refused. And the Boredoms are definitely pretty godlike. Donut Bitch and I were amazed when we saw this album got released in America on a Warner Brothers imprint. 1993 was a strange and wonderful year.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 10 October 2004 19:34 (nineteen years ago) link

I turned nine in 1993. I really liked Pearl Jam.

― Helios Creed (orion), Sunday, 10 October 2004 19:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Part of me now really wishes you were Helios so you could have been in Chrome in a pre-natal sense. Now THAT'S guitar playing.

(For what it's worth, my AMG review of Pop Tatari)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 10 October 2004 19:38 (nineteen years ago) link

i liked refused but boredoms kick their ass. almost anyone's ass, really.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 10 October 2004 19:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Awesome moments on this album:

just before one minute into "Bore Now Bore" the keyboard riff and then.... WHOOSH here comes the rest of the instruments.

Yoshimi's vocals in "Which Dooyoo Like" -- 'noooooo you are the ?????man'

― sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Sunday, 10 October 2004 19:43 (nineteen years ago) link

I've never heard all of Pop Tatri, but I think Chocolate Synthesizer might be the best punk record of the 90s. It almost scares me how much I like Chocolate Synthesizer since it seems so removed from almost anything else I am excited about these days, but maybe that keeps me from drowning in my own seriousness?

― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Sunday, 10 October 2004 20:50 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't know. Soul Discharge was just one of the most amazing records of its time. I've heard Pop Tatari and Chocolate Synthesizer, and I'm sure they are good, but I never bought them. The Boredoms just didn't seem to me to keep up the level of inspiration of the early records and to evolve artistically to the extent that I really wanted to buy their albums when they came out. I got interested again (though, admittedly, less so) with the Super Roots series.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 10 October 2004 22:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Tim, you're fucking nuts!

― sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Monday, 11 October 2004 04:48 (nineteen years ago) link

If there was ever a thread POX'ing records that have aged best since their release... Pop Tatari and Chocolate Synthesizer by the Boredoms would be near the top of the list. Easy.

― maria b (maria b), Monday, 11 October 2004 05:41 (nineteen years ago) link

No, I think Tim is right. "Soul Discharge" remains my favorite Boredoms. It felt like by "Chocolate Synthesizer" that noise freak out shtick was starting to get a bit stale. That's why I was pleased when they went in a different direction with "Super Ae". While I think their more recent stuff has yielded some interesting music, it just didn't hit me with quite the same force as when I first heard "Soul Discharge" back in '92 or so.

― o. nate (onate), Monday, 11 October 2004 15:13 (nineteen years ago) link

No, I'm saying he's nuts because:

The Boredoms just didn't seem to me to keep up the level of inspiration of the early records and to evolve artistically to the extent that I really wanted to buy their albums when they came out. I got interested again (though, admittedly, less so) with the Super Roots series.

That sounds like he is discounting Vision Creation Newsun and Super Ae era stuff!

― sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Monday, 11 October 2004 15:22 (nineteen years ago) link

No, dude, I meant the Pop Tatari/Chocolate Synthesizer era.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 11 October 2004 15:33 (nineteen years ago) link

ok, good. I still love myself a Pop Tatari. I kinda wanna send a package of CDRs to my cousins with this in it.

― sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Monday, 11 October 2004 15:46 (nineteen years ago) link

my cousins were really confused by the boredoms

― Loose Translation: Sexy Dancer (sexyDancer), Monday, 11 October 2004 21:14 (nineteen years ago) link

i think only one of my cousins would be able to get boredoms at this point. they mostly like belle & sebastian and pop country.

― Helios Creed (orion), Monday, 11 October 2004 22:44 (nineteen years ago) link

my cousins like the Beastie Boys and think Avril + Good Charlotte are "fake punk"

― sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 15:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Never mind the chocolate sushi, try THAI BEAT A GO-GO VOLUME 1. 60s Thais messing with American pop; sometimes tiresomely so, but mostly pretty much like, um, a *really* (Sun Rises In Thee East) East Coast VU, if they'd consented to augmenting pharacueticals with organics ('shrooms, hot springs, etc.)?(check forcedexposure.com)

― Don, Wednesday, 13 October 2004 16:57 (nineteen years ago) link

BOREDOMS FANS ARE ALL MENTALISTS

― Helios Creed (orion), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 17:56 (nineteen years ago) link

this album, Pop Tatari, changed my life.

― big chaki (chaki), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 18:50 (nineteen years ago) link

Pop Tatari's great but I like Chocolae Synthesizer a bit more.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 18:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Pop Tatari changes it up.

― big chaki (chaki), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 19:02 (nineteen years ago) link

this album is best enjoyed while watching an old episode of the muppets with the volume turned off

― kephm (kephm), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 19:39 (nineteen years ago) link

ooh yeaaaah.

FUCK REFUSED!!!!

― sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 19:43 (nineteen years ago) link

I should do a film for this album.....

― sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 19:43 (nineteen years ago) link

i like Choco Synth, is better.

― joseph pot (STINKOR™), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 23:56 (nineteen years ago) link

I tried to load Pop Tatari from the CD onto iTunes this morning so I could listen to it on my iPod but it ran all slow and fucked up iTunes...that's how PUNK ROCK it is.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 14 October 2004 15:50 (nineteen years ago) link

dookie is better than pop tatari.

― peter smith (plsmith), Thursday, 14 October 2004 15:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Dookie : Pop Tatari → It's a Small World After All : Einstein on the Beach

― sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Thursday, 14 October 2004 16:16 (nineteen years ago) link

nine months pass...

jon, i never got the chance to say just how wrong you were about this last year.

im sayin. pop tatari is a great record. but dookie is one of the perfect albums of my life and yours.

― petesmith (plsmith), Friday, 12 August 2005 02:16 (eighteen years ago) link

i agree

― gear (gear), Friday, 12 August 2005 02:30 (eighteen years ago) link

xpost

― gear (gear), Friday, 12 August 2005 02:30 (eighteen years ago) link

i refused record is really damn good too

― huell howser (chaki), Friday, 12 August 2005 05:36 (eighteen years ago) link

I just got a great email from a guy in Boris saying "Boredoms are like subculture more than music, in good and bad way." It may happen like that. I like WOW2 because my name's on it, and Soul Discharge because it kills.

― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Friday, 12 August 2005 05:40 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...

dookie still true now

― 69, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 15:39 (sixteen years ago) link

Fuck dookie

And this thread makes sense only if you count the boredoms as punk (which I don't)

The correct answer is Destroy-Oh-Boy!

― MC, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 15:53 (sixteen years ago) link

cute

― 69, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 16:07 (sixteen years ago) link

Pop Tatari and especially the tour right after it, changed my life 4 evah; but keeping to the title of the thread, I say Hum Of Life, no contest.

By Pop Tatari, Bo couldn't be called punk rock so much. Soul Discharge, yes.

When PT was first issued in Japan, I thought it would never come out domestically so I ordered it from Japan Overseas. Later, when it did come out from Warner, I heard their edition at a friend's house and was irritated by the fiddly little changes that were made. "I Am Cola" was butchered!

― Jon Lewis, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 16:12 (sixteen years ago) link

dookie is what's cute. it's oh so cuddly, like a widdle baby puppy.

― MC, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 16:15 (sixteen years ago) link

Speaking of "cuddly": could "Live & Cuddly" count even though it's a 90's release of an 80's concert?

― kingkongvsgodzilla, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 16:23 (sixteen years ago) link

who in the hell are these people?

― strongohulkington, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 16:26 (sixteen years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Lewis_Partnership

― Scik Mouthy, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 17:29 (sixteen years ago) link

If I must have an h, I'd prefer to be the Modern Jazz Quartet guy.

― Jon Lewis, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 17:32 (sixteen years ago) link

There's a chair at John Lewis that I really, really want to buy.

― Scik Mouthy, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 17:39 (sixteen years ago) link

What about Onanie? We got through this entire thread without a single mention of it (I know it's not 90's, but we were talking about Soul Discharge too)

― Reatards Unite, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 18:47 (sixteen years ago) link

bonus "track" on soul d cd, dood

― sexyDancer, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 18:50 (sixteen years ago) link

but what about fugazi?

frowny face.

― Emily Bjurnhjam, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 19:28 (sixteen years ago) link

fugazi isn't punk

― Catsupppppppppppppp dude ‫茄蕃‪, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 20:17 (sixteen years ago) link

neither are the boredoms, lol

― sexyDancer, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 20:18 (sixteen years ago) link

i dunno, when i think of a punk album i'd go to "in on the kill taker" before "pop tatari" despite loving them both equally.

― Emily Bjurnhjam, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 20:20 (sixteen years ago) link

"What about Onanie? We got through this entire thread without a single mention of it (I know it's not 90's, but we were talking about Soul Discharge too)"

That one's my favorite actually. The early Boredoms stuff is my favorite, which was probably at it's best on Soul Discharge, but I had never heard a note by the Boredoms before hearing Onanie, so that one wins it for me. What a first impression!
In my own little world I'd like to think that the Boredoms killed punk off by taking it to it's highest point in "No Core Punk", so I can't pick a 90's album.
Musically speaking at least.

― Jack Burton, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 23:47 (sixteen years ago) link

fugazi isn't punk

-- Catsupppppppppppppp dude ‫茄蕃‪, Tuesday, May 8, 2007 3:17 PM (4 hours ago)

why? they too hippy-ish?

― latebloomer, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 00:18 (sixteen years ago) link

four years pass...

Re-bought Pop Tatari yesterday and can't understand why I ever parted with it in the first place. It sounds amazing. So many layers of detail in the mix for such a visceral record. I never connected this phase of the Boredoms with Krautrock later on, but I was hearing a lot of Faust and Can in there last night. Real Art-Terror.
When I first bought it('93?)I was in high school and it was certainly the freakiest album I'd heard at that point. Hell, it's still pretty freaky. Surprised I bought this back in the grunge years. I'd seen them open for Sonic Youth on the "Dirty" tour in Pittsburgh and it was definitely not my kinda thing at that point. I guess I was intrigued enough by what these guys would sound like on a record to take a chance. In retrospect, I guess it was a pretty important album for me to hear, then I got rid of it for a long time. Glad I got to re-connect.
Also: booklet art is crazy.

― International Waters, Sunday, 4 September 2011 15:53 (twelve years ago) link

Really funny that most of this thread is the silly fight of Boredoms vs. Green Day.

― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 4 September 2011 15:59 (twelve years ago) link

The double vocalist era was soooo tremendous live. Indelible memories.

― Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Sunday, 4 September 2011 16:09 (twelve years ago) link

i heard this album for the first time in high school, too, so glad i did! tho i prefer soul discharge iirc

― flopson, Sunday, 4 September 2011 16:27 (twelve years ago) link

two years pass...

when I was in San Fran they were playing this album very loudly in one of their giant downtown record stores (Rasputin?) - forgot how freaky and amazing this was

― frogbs, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 19:00 (ten years ago) link

OTM I revisited this the other week and it's so entertaining

― 1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Thursday, 17 April 2014 09:25 (ten years ago) link

I've got this album somewhere, should pull it out and listen to it again

― Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 April 2014 09:31 (ten years ago) link

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